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Nine Laws of Physics that Don't Apply in Hollywood


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#1 Live Forever

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 11:26 AM


http://www.neatorama...y-in-hollywood/

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In general, Hollywood filmmakers follow the laws of physics because they have no other choice. It’s just when they cheat with special effects that we seem to forget how the world really works.

1. Those Exploding Cars

When you’re watching an action flick, all it takes is a crash, or maybe a stream of leaky gasoline that acts like a fuse, and suddenly, bang! You see a terrific explosion that’s complete and violent. But gasoline doesn’t explode unless mixed with about 93% air. Gas-induced car explosions were discovered on film relatively recently (you don’t see them in the old black-and-white movies), and now audiences just take them for granted. In general, there’s no need to rush out of a crashed car, risking injury, because you fear an imminent explosion – it’s probably not gonna happen.

2. Sound that Moves at the Speed of Light

Hollywood always gets this one wrong. On film, thunder doesn’t follow lightning (as in real life, because sound is slower); they occur simultaneously. Similarly, a distant volcano erupts, and the blast is heard immediately rather than five seconds later for each mile. Explosions on the battlefield go boom right away, no matter how far away spectators are. Even a small thing, like the crack of a baseball player’s bat, is simultaneous with ball contact, unlike at a real game.

3. Everything is Illuminated: The Myth of Radioactivity

Film would have you believe that radioactivity is contagious and makes you glow in the dark. Where did this idea come from? The Simpsons? Perhaps, but the truth is that the most common forms of radioactivity will make you radioactive only if the radioactive particles stick on you. Radioactivity is not contagious. If a person is exposed to the radioactive neutrons from a nuclear reactor, then he can become slightly radioactive, but he certainly won’t glow. And because radioactive things emit light only when they run into phosphor – like the coating on the inner surface of a TV tube – you don’t really need to worry.

4. Shotgun Blasts and Kung Fu Kicks Make Targets Fly across the Room

With the string of new kung fu films out (they run the gamut from The Matrix to Charlie’s Angels), you just can’t escape the small matter of bad physics. Yeah, the action scenes look great and all, but in reality momentum is conserved, such that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So, when you see a gal kick someone across the room, technically, the kicker (or holder of a gun) must fly across the room in the opposite direction – unless she has a back against the wall.

5. Legends of the Fall

We aren’t surprised when the cartoon character Wile. E. Coyote runs off a cliff and is suspended there momentarily before he falls. But in the movies, buses and cars shouldn’t be able to jump across gaps in bridges, even if they go heavy on the accelerator. The fact is, a vehicle will fall even if it’s moving at a high speed. During the 1989 San Francisco earthquake, a driver saw a gap in the bridge too late, and probably inspired by the movies, accelerated to try to make it across. Unfortunately, the laws of physics were not suspended, and he fell into the hole and crashed on the other side. Movies with special effects should come with a warning: “Laws of physics are violated in this movie. Don’t try these stunts at home.”

6. The Sounds of Science

All across the silver screen, you’ll catch people screaming as their car flies in slow motion across the gap in the bridge. The problem, though, is that their voices don’t change. In reality, if you slow down motion by a factor of two, the frequency of all sounds should drop by an octave. Women will sound like men, and men will sound like Henry Kissinger. Sound is an oscillation of the air. Middle C, for example, is 256 vibrations per second. If time is slowed down, there are fewer cycles per second, and the resulting sound is lower in pitch.

7. Shell Shock! Exploding Artillery Shells that Blow Straight Up

In movies, shells tend to kill only the person standing directly over them. It seems like a waste of artillery, since – if you believe the movies – each shell can’t kill more than a single rifle bullet can. But in real life, artillery shells blow out in all directions, killing people all over. Movie directors like to have their actors running through a field of such shells, but they don’t want their actors killed, so they arrange for underground explosions in holes that blow straight up, missing anyone who’s more than 5 feet away.

8. The Sparking Bullet

Sparking bullets are relatively recent invention in movie special effects. The gimmick provides a way of letting the audience know that the bullet just barely missed its target. In real life, sparks do occur when you scrape steel or other hard metals on hard surfaces (such as brick) because little pieces of brittle materials are heated to glow and fly off. The problem here is that bullets are generally made of lead because it’s dense and soft, and you don’t want the bullets scarring the steel of the gun barrel. Ever notice that no sparks fly from the front of the gun? That’s because you’re seeing lead bullets.

9. Sound Travels in Space

This is the granddaddy of all scientific complaints about space movies. For instance, in space the hero shouldn’t be able to shout out instructions to the other astronauts from a spot several yards away. The movie Aliens corrected this misimpression with its tagline: “In space, nobody can hear you scream.” And it’s true. Sound is the vibration of air, and it’s sensed when the air makes your eardrums vibrate. But try to forget this rule as soon as possible; it’ll wreck a good many movies for you.

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 11:32 AM

I have seen a couple of these (sparking bullet, shotgun blast knocking you back) tested on Mythbusters before, with the results predictably being that Hollywood is incorrect. They also tested some other things as well, like a trail of gasoline being lit with a cigarette, bullets going through water (if you have ever seen a movie when someone is being shot at from above, but swimming underneath the water), shooting at cars trying to get them to blow up, swimming in quicksand, etc.

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 11:38 PM

Actually, that goes way way back. It's not a recent hollywood thing. I've seen old movies where the car breaks through a flimsy wooden barrier going off a cliff and bursts into flame on the way down without striking anything. The car exploding into flames is a hollywood cliche from way back, and fender bender bursts the car into flames if the script calls for it. Also the sparking bullets. We saw that in the old cowboys and indians movies all the time. Modern cartoon movies like spiderman take it to ridiculous heights. Spiderman tosses out a rope, catches someone, and pulls them violently backwards out of the way of a building falling on them or something and does not move forward himself.

I saw part of a spiderman movie sitting in the barber's chair and it was a farce. He swooped under a falling object, grabbed the little kid and saved him while swinging by a rope. How did he get under the house sized object without snagging the rope and how did he grab the kid, moments before the object landed without kiling the kid? To grab someone and remove them in less than a second would have involved forces that would likely kill or seriously injure the one involved plus being impossible to do with human strength. All in a day's work for hollywood. That's besides stuff like jumping straight up 20 feet and other nonsense that looks easy beside the really impossible junk. Kids see that and think they can do it and then they get killed.

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 11:43 PM

I agree, xanadu, it is definitely not a recent Hollywood thing. I have seen some old movies with bad physics as well.

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Posted 07 March 2007 - 11:52 PM

5. Legends of the Fall

During the 1989 San Francisco earthquake, a driver saw a gap in the bridge too late, and probably inspired by the movies, accelerated to try to make it across. Unfortunately, the laws of physics were not suspended, and he fell into the hole and crashed on the other side.


That could of been me! [wis]
It doesn't make much sense when you think of the science behind it...But my first instinct from watching movies my whole life would of been to floor the gas [tung]

Speaking of which - Anyone else get a big kick out of the defining scene from Free Willy (killer whale flying over the boy as it jumps to freedom)

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 12:53 AM

I saw part of a spiderman movie sitting in the barber's chair and it was a farce. He swooped under a falling object, grabbed the little kid and saved him while swinging by a rope. How did he get under the house sized object without snagging the rope and how did he grab the kid, moments before the object landed without kiling the kid? To grab someone and remove them in less than a second would have involved forces that would likely kill or seriously injure the one involved plus being impossible to do with human strength. All in a day's work for hollywood.


How can we possibly debate the physics behind a story involving a guy that can climb walls, has crazy strength, and has a "spider-sense"?

Uh guys, I know I'm about to shatter some illusions....it's not real.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 06:12 AM

I saw part of a spiderman movie sitting in the barber's chair and it was a farce. He swooped under a falling object, grabbed the little kid and saved him while swinging by a rope. How did he get under the house sized object without snagging the rope and how did he grab the kid, moments before the object landed without kiling the kid? To grab someone and remove them in less than a second would have involved forces that would likely kill or seriously injure the one involved plus being impossible to do with human strength. All in a day's work for hollywood.


How can we possibly debate the physics behind a story involving a guy that can climb walls, has crazy strength, and has a "spider-sense"?

Uh guys, I know I'm about to shatter some illusions....it's not real.

I can't really argue with that, although there is a certain level of assumed reality, even in fantastic movies. One would assume that even though someone has fantastic powers, or cool gadgets (James Bond) or whatever that the laws of physics should still apply.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 06:13 AM

Here is a site rating movies on how well (or not) they have realistic physics:
http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 07:39 AM

How about the spaceships flying like airplanes, that one always annoys me, even though i love star trek, it irks me that they still fly like airplanes. Battlestar Galactica got it perfect.
As to the spider man thing...he DOES have superhuman strength.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 07:54 AM

The one that has always bugged me is that in ALL sci fi movies involving space travel, even if they have a theoretical warp drive, they often travel around sub-light at high percent C and they NEVER experience the associated effects of attenuated temporal relativism, except when it is the basis of a screwup like in Planet of the Apes.

Also they invariably run around communicating across *subspace* with one another in constant simultaneity and temporal synchronicity that simply does not exist. It certainly doesn't exist at relativistic velocity or between a relatively stationary world and a super-ballistic object approaching the speed of light. And that is when they don't just screw up the fact that radio signals can't cross parsecs to catch up with ships that used warp to go FTL.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 07:57 AM

The one that has always bugged me is that in ALL sci fi movies involving space travel, even if they have a theoretical warp drive, they often travel around sub-light at high percent C and they NEVER experience the associated effects of attenuated temporal relativism, except when it is the basis of a screwup like in Planet of the Apes.

Also they invariably run around communicating across *subspace* with one another in constant simultaneity and temporal synchronicity that simply does not exist.  It certainly doesn't exist at relativistic velocity or between a relatively stationary world and a super-ballistic object approaching the speed of light.  And that is when they don't just screw up the fact that radio signals can't cross parsecs to catch up with ships that used warp to go FTL.

Yes, I have noticed this one as well. I am sure it is done for the sake of telling the story, since it would be kind of confusing to have people constantly changing "time" in relation to each other.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 08:20 AM

 
5. Legends of the Fall

During the 1989 San Francisco earthquake, a driver saw a gap in the bridge too late, and probably inspired by the movies, accelerated to try to make it across. Unfortunately, the laws of physics were not suspended, and he fell into the hole and crashed on the other side.



That could of been me!
It doesn't make much sense when you think of the science behind it...But my first instinct from watching movies my whole life would of been to floor the gas


Only useful on an inclined plane in the example given but not always an unreasonable response, which it so happens saved the lives of two snowmobilers the other day. They hit open water in Maine while traveling over what they thought was a frozen lake.

Two of them gunned it and traveled as much as two miles to safety across open water by *skimming* and the third man hesitated, sank and drowned. His snowmobile was found later in thirty feet of water.

I actually read this story last week.
http://abclocal.go.c...arre&id=5053237

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 01:51 PM

I can't really argue with that, although there is a certain level of assumed reality, even in fantastic movies. One would assume that even though someone has fantastic powers, or cool gadgets (James Bond) or whatever that the laws of physics should still apply.


I've been guily of this before, but I've decided that it's not worth worrying about. If the physics are realistic, something else isn't going to be. For 90% of the movies, it's better to sit back and enjoy them for what they are.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 06:39 PM

We might as well talk about cartoons. There, a 4 oz mouse can lift a 15 lb cat and toss it across a room while being suspended in the air. They draw a door on the side of a cliff and walk through. I think that's against the laws of physics, isn't it? Plus the fact that when they walk off the edge of a roof or cliff, they don't fall until they notice they have no support under them. When kids get started with junk like that, watching a spiderman movie seems natural and they don't question anything in it. We are raising generations of physics illiterates.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 06:46 PM

Something I always found interesting about old western movies is, when cowboys have shoot outs, their six shooters can fire about 25 rounds without reloading.

Makes those guns seem pretty advanced for the 1800's.

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 07:18 PM

We are raising generations of physics illiterates.


An understanding of physics is the least of my worries about that (and my own) generation.




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