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[David]

Um, guys, brokenportal and the like, this sounds a bit like masturbation to me. Good for the prostate, but not something that should be done in public.

It's good to see the enthusiasm, but it could backfire. Get sort of, sticky, for want of a better word.

David

[Bruce Klein]

BJ, I introduced a friend of mine to the site a couple of months back, a guy doing a triple degree in law, psychology and something else (can't remember what it was) who was to put it lightly, EXTREMELY opposed to immortality. He sat next to me ranting and raving and posting his little heart out for around 3 hours. A passionate man to say the least! He came to me the next day and told me all his posts were deleted, and that we are all cowards for not dealing with him. I'd like to get him back, (he does have a brilliant mind!) is there anything I can tell him to convince him that non immortality beliefs ARN'T deleted out of hand?

David, yikes I missed your post originally....

Hmm, tell him I'm really sorry about that.. but I respect the decisions made by fellow leadership in their role to maintain a certain level of civility. Please ask him to email me directly with any questions: bjk @ imminst.org or I'll be happy to initiate a personal duologue if you happen to have his email.. PM me.

Thank You,
BJK

[Cyto]

He would of had to be really, really bad at what he was trying to convey. We are very nice when it comes to opposing views such as True_Believer's, Casanova's and more. Even when they can get out of hand.

[kevin]

I think the posts must have gone into the catcher and perhaps have been overlooked myself.. dare I say it.. a computer error?

[Lazarus Long]

BJ, I introduced a friend of mine to the site a couple of months back, a guy doing a triple degree in law, psychology and something else (can't remember what it was) who was to put it lightly, EXTREMELY opposed to immortality. He sat next to me ranting and raving and posting his little heart out for around 3 hours. A passionate man to say the least! He came to me the next day and told me all his posts were deleted, and that we are all cowards for not dealing with him. I'd like to get him back, (he does have a brilliant mind!) is there anything I can tell him to convince him that non immortality beliefs ARN'T deleted out of hand?

I monitor most everything that is posted on this site; including this post. I also defend vociferously the right of everyone to be heard. Somewhat to the chagrin of my cohorts. I decided to let it be answered by BJ rather than myself when you posted it David because you addressed it specifically to him and I was very confident from past experience that he would reply, and in the manner he did.

David, yikes I missed your post originally....

Hmm, tell him I'm really sorry about that.. but I respect the decisions made by fellow leadership in their role to maintain a certain level of civility. Please ask him to email me directly with any questions: bjk @ imminst.org or I'll be happy to initiate a personal duologue if you happen to have his email.. PM me.

Thank You,
BJK

I figured let example be the proof that we are innocent of intended offense and waited patiently for BJ to reply in is usual manner. I have seen some posts relegated to the Catcher for ranting, and irrelevancy but I have seen no one simply deleted out of hand. I have my self deleted redundancy however as it is like spam but I have doggedly defended Free Speech and the likes of even "Ole Doc" to post whatever statement of prophetic doom even when it made some of the other leaders look askance at me like possibly being a crazed theosophist was infectious.

If someone accidentally makes a double post I simply delete one of them I try to ensure however that one stays. There have been a few, usually religious types that have come in here ranting and raving. Regardless of their intelligence, they tend to make the same, often threatening posts, repeatedly in different threads and I will cull the excess and leave at least one in the most appropriate thread, even when I think it is foolish. What isn't tolerated are personal attacks though but I have actually monitored very few of these as cause for deletion or censor.

However we have an eclectic editing policy and staff and while I might send the post to the catcher someone else could take exception and delete it. Try looking in the Catcher though and see what if the posts are there. Also what was the member's screen-name that they posted with?

A quick search under his member name will demonstrate if the posts are still here and where they might be.

[Bruce Klein]

Quick note to Leadership:

I suggest instead of deleting posts in the future, we make use of the 'Split Topic' option found in the 'Moderation Options' dropdown box at the bottom of each topic view.

We can split the posts we would have deleted into a new topic thread and create that thread in the **Leadership Forum**.

Thanks ~ BJK

[randolfe]

I really abhor censorship. However, there are more of "them" then there are of us. The great thing about this site is that we get to talk with one another here in an unimpeded fashion.

Instead of "splitting" or starting new threads, I think we should establish a "trash can" or a "believer's bin" or a "non-believers bin".

I really don't think we want to exhaust ourselves arguing with good Christians, etc., on this site. They have the rest of the internet and virtually the entire world.

We have this problem at the cloning sites where religous nuts can drop in and destroy the discussion. We don't need it here. Let us be sensibly protective.

[MichaelAnissimov]

I agree wholeheartedly with Randolfe, of course - who speaks as a person with experience in these areas. I guess the "Free Speech forum" will serve as our "garbage bin" should we ever need one, but for the moment it's looking clean... (maybe our forum isn't popular enough yet.)

[David]

I guess the "Free Speech forum" will serve as our "garbage bin" should we ever need one, but for the moment it's looking clean... (maybe our forum isn't popular enough yet.)

Ohh, thats nasty! That's where I live! And I do live there not because I want to be a rude prick, but because I'm a free speech advocate, for all the normal reasons, like wanting to make my own decisions, and an extreme hatred of Big Brotherness, in all its veiled forms.

However we have an eclectic editing policy and staff and while I might send the post to the catcher someone else could take exception and delete it. Try looking in the Catcher though and see what if the posts are there. Also what was the member's screen-name that they posted with?

Sorry I han't replied to this earlier Laz, I'll look him up and ask him when I can. He's a nice fella, kinda misguided, but I'm working on that! What he needs is a good dose of mortality salience! Think I might take him bushwalking.... [lol]

Dave.