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#1 ganeshge

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:45 PM


Following is the supplement regimen I have been following for nearly one year. Any suggestions?

Morning with Breakfast:

Centrum Multivitamin -1 tablet
Vitamin C - 1 gram
Vitamini E (natural and mixed tocopherols and trienols) - 400 IU
N-acetyl cysteine - 600mg
Glisodin - 200 mg
Magnesium Citrate - 600 mg
Benfotiamine - 100mg
Lipoic acid - 200 mg
Carnosine - 250 mg

Afternoon with lunch:

DMAEcitrate (Source naturals) - 1 tablet
Coenzyme Q 10 - 50 mg
Kyolic Garlic - 600 mg
Chromium polynicotinate - 200 mcg (3 days a week)
Green tea - 600mg

Before evening Exercise:

Whey protein - 25 gms
Acetyl Carnitine - 500mg

Afer Dinner:

Vitamin C - 1 gm
Lipoic acid - 200 mg
N- Acetyl cysteine - 600 mg
Magnesium Citrate - 600 mg
Selenomethionine - 100 mcg
B complex - 50 - 1 tablet
Slo-Niacin - 250 mg

Before Bed:

Sublingual Melatonin - 3mg

I recently got Resveratrol (from NOW foods) and Pomegranate extract (Pomeratrol from NOW foods). Can anyone comment on the quality of NOW foods Resv. and Pomeratrol, as well as other suggestions. So far, My health has been pretty good and my overall energy has increased.

On a side note, Bruce ames et al have shown the influence with high amounts of B vitamins in increasing the human cell population doubling.

#2 ganeshge

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 08:48 PM

I forgot to add taking 250mg of pure DHA (source naturals) in the afternoon alongwith the food.

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#3 krillin

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 10:09 PM

Centrum has too much vitamin A. It also has niacinamide, synthetic vitamin E, vitamin D2, and iron. Replace it with an AOR product. It'll also eliminate the need to take your separate chromium, selenium, and B50.

Magnesium seems high. Is there a reason for that?

Carnosine's too low. Either go 1 gram or don't bother.

Inositol hexanicotinate is considerably safer than time release niacin.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 10:38 PM

Yeah, I would switch out the multi to something else...I like orthocore, some go with LEF's, and others looking for lower cost go with Now's Adam...maybe a search could also give you other options...I also agree on the carnosine

Have you thought of creatine?

#5 ganeshge

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 11:28 PM

Great. I would change from Centrum to AOR (Essential Mxi Multi-vitamin. Is that right?). The reason, I take magnesium citrate is , it is a highly absorbable form and 600mg of Mg.Citrate contains only 50% of RDA (by mole basis). That is the reason, I take two tablets.

Since Carnosine, is expensive, if i have to go for 1 gm, I am considering taking beta-alanine, since, it is cheaper (other part of carnosine which is histidine is abundant in whey and other proteins in food items). Any suggestions?

I am thinking of adding Creatine to my regimen (any suggestions on the intake?)

Finally, any thoughts on NOW foods Resv and Pomeratrol?

#6 ganeshge

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 11:37 PM

AOR Multi Vit. seem to contain Chromium Picolinate which has been found to damage DNA. Is that so?

#7 health_nutty

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:48 PM

Since Carnosine, is expensive, if i have to go for 1 gm, I am considering taking beta-alanine, since, it is cheaper (other part of carnosine which is histidine is abundant in whey and other proteins in food items). Any suggestions?

I am thinking of adding Creatine to my regimen (any suggestions on the intake?)

Finally, any thoughts on NOW foods Resv and Pomeratrol?


I take beta-alanine for the reasons you clearly stated above. I also take benfotiamine for AGE inhibition.

I take 5 grams of creatine a day.

I take a seperate Resv and pomegranate supplement.
For pomegranate I would highly recommend getting something standardized on punicoside (not ellagic acid).
For t-res there are more cost effective options.

I agree with Krillin: nix the slo-niacin (can cause liver damage).

Also DMAE is out of favor these days. I forget the studies, but if you can't find the info with a search let me know.

#8 krillin

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:13 PM

AOR Multi Vit. seem to contain Chromium Picolinate which has been found to damage DNA. Is that so?


I would prefer the polynicotinate version, if only because it's cheaper. I can live with the picolinate version, since I've only seen evidence for harm under non-physiological conditions.

Food Chem Toxicol. 2007 Jul;45(7):1097-106. Epub 2006 Nov 22.
Evaluation of the potential genotoxicity of chromium picolinate in mammalian cells in vivo and in vitro.
Andersson MA, Petersson Grawe KV, Karlsson OM, Abramsson-Zetterberg LA, Hellman BE.

Department of Pharmaceutical Biosciences, Division of Toxicology, Box 594, Uppsala University, SE-751 24 Uppsala, Sweden.

Chromium picolinate (CrPic) is a synthetic nutritional supplement primarily used for weight loss and muscle building. Recent studies have indicated that CrPic might be genotoxic and these findings together with the wide-spread consumer use, have increased the concern about its safety. In the present study we investigated the potential genotoxicity of CrPic in mice given a single intraperitoneal injection (up to 3mg/kgb.wt.) by evaluating the frequency of micronucleated polychromatic erythrocytes (fMNPCE) in peripheral blood, and DNA damage in lymphocytes and hepatocytes. The fMNPCE was evaluated after 42h and DNA damage after 16h. Using the Comet assay DNA damage was also monitored in extended-term cultures of human lymphocytes and in L5178Y mouse lymphoma cells that had been exposed for 3h to 500muM CrPic under different exposure conditions. A slight, but significant CrPic-induced increase in DNA damage (P<0.001) was observed in the human lymphocytes, but only when these cells were exposed in the absence of serum. In all other experiments CrPic was found to be without genotoxic effects, both in vivo and in vitro. Taken together, our results suggest that a high concentration of CrPic might be DNA damaging, but only under non-physiological conditions.

PMID: 17418471

Eur J Epidemiol. 1998 Sep;14(6):621-6.
Effect of supplementation with chromium picolinate on antibody titers to 5-hydroxymethyl uracil.
Kato I, Vogelman JH, Dilman V, Karkoszka J, Frenkel K, Durr NP, Orentreich N, Toniolo P.

Nelson Institute of Environmental Medicine, New York University School of Medicine, New York, USA.

Recent in vitro studies have shown that chromium (III) compounds such as chromium picolinate, a popular dietary supplement among people trying to lose weight, produce chromosome damage. We monitored levels of DNA damage in a chromium picolinate supplement trial by measuring antibodies titers to an oxidized DNA base, 5-hydroxymethyl-2'-deoxyuridine (HMdU), by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assays. Ten obese volunteer women completed a 8-week course of 400 micrograms chromium picolinate per day. In either absolute titers or percent of the baseline value, there were no changes in antibody titers at 4 or 8 weeks. The titers were very stable within individuals and those of one individual rarely crossed over others, which was reflected in an intraclass correlation coefficient of 0.99 (95% confidence interval: 0.96-1.00). There were no effects on glucose and lipid metabolism in this period. The results of this trial suggest that chromium (III) picolinate in a dose typically used for nutrient supplementation dose not increase oxidative DNA damage, as measured by anti-HMdU antibody levels.

PMID: 9794131

#9 ganeshge

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:34 PM

Following are the references which gives the benefit of DMAE on removing lipofuscin as well as extending lifespan.

http://www.lef.org/m...2004_aas_01.htm
Hochschild, R. (1973) "Effect of dimethylaminoethanol on the life span of senile male A/J mice" Exp Geront 8, 185-91

Further, there has been lot of papers published on the use of Centrophenoxine (which contains DMAE building block) by Imre Zs-Nagy and found that it does remove lipofuscin as a result, the lifespan of mice is increased..

Imre Zs-Nagy has written a nice book on "Membrane Hypothesis of Aging". You will find lot of literature on DMAE and its derivatives use in extending the lifespan.

#10 ganeshge

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 01:21 AM

Another Question: Where can I purchase beta-alanine in bulk?

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 03:28 AM

Another Question: Where can I purchase beta-alanine in bulk?


BAC and Bulk Nutrition have it. I get mine from BAC (its cheaper and I get my other stuff there).

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 03:31 AM

Here is the link about the negatives of DMAE:
http://www.imminst.o...=0

I haven't fully researched it myself.

#13 ganeshge

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 03:53 AM

Great. I am going to buy beta-alanine from BAC and thanks for the suggestion for the supplier.

I read thru the link on DMAE, but still not fully convinced with so much data published in literature (especially by Imre Zs Nagy who also invented idebenone). But, I would do a bit more research on DMAE.

Although, I would like ot aztaxanthin to my supplement, currently, the price seem to be pretty expensive. Also, is there any low cost source for pyridoxamine which prevents glycation.

#14 krillin

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 05:24 PM

I read thru the link on DMAE, but still not fully convinced with so much data published in literature (especially by Imre Zs Nagy who also invented idebenone). But, I would do a bit more research on DMAE.

Although, I would like ot aztaxanthin to my supplement, currently, the price seem to be pretty expensive. Also, is there any low cost source for pyridoxamine which prevents glycation.


More cautionary information on DMAE is at

DMAE topical effects

Astaxanthin is only $2.61/month from iHerb. (2 mg Source Naturals tablets)

Does anyone know if there is a source of pyridoxamine that doesn't have that extra HPLC contaminant peak that AOR warned about?

#15 ganeshge

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 08:31 PM

Similar to aminoguanidine and metform, does Creatine prevents Glycation (creatine, aminoguanidine and metformin has similar structures)?

#16 ganeshge

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 10:37 PM

I have seen messages on the use of general ALT-711 as a supplement. Is that commercially available?

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Posted 03 May 2007 - 05:10 AM

Similar to aminoguanidine and metform, does Creatine prevents Glycation (creatine, aminoguanidine and metformin has similar structures)?


Yes, creatine does have some glycation prevention properties (in vivo too):

http://www.ncbi.nlm....6&dopt=Citation

#18 ganeshge

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Posted 03 May 2007 - 07:37 PM

Does any one take NtBHA or PBN?. If so, how much and where it is available?

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Posted 03 May 2007 - 08:44 PM

Does any one take NtBHA or PBN?. If so, how much and where it is available?


I know people here have said they take ALT711 NtBHA and PBN. Do a search and PM those folks for a source.

#20 ganeshge

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 03:05 PM

Since consumerlab.com is the one of the reputed website where we can check the quality of the supplements, is it not, we accelerate testing various supplements such as Resv., pomeratrol, carnosine, etc..to ensure, we buy the right ones?

#21 ganeshge

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Posted 04 May 2007 - 10:34 PM

Can anyone send me a link for BAC for ordering supplements (I get a feeling from the discussion that they sell at a low price)

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Posted 05 May 2007 - 05:40 AM

Beyond a century (BAC) is very inexpensive for their uncapped powder. The branded capped products are certainly fair, but not the cheapest around.

#23 ganeshge

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Posted 06 May 2007 - 10:16 PM

Does anyone take Policosanol as a supplement. It appears it is very good for reducing LDL..?

#24 ganeshge

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Posted 09 May 2007 - 07:05 PM

Can anyone let me know where i can get the best DHA/EPA combo with no omega-6 mixed? Most of the fish oils do have a significant portion of omega-6.

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#25 ganeshge

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 03:03 PM

What are the supplements that prevents the onset of sarcopenia (muscle loss with age)?.




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