Since there were some arguments about evolution and intelligent design in the Religion forum, I am creating this thread for the purpose of arguing evolution vs. intelligent design. (or even creationism if anyone would like to take the leap to that, although they are basically the same in my eyes)
I am intentionally putting this thread in the Bioscience forum so that the discussion has to be limited to scientific arguments (or logical abstractions at the very least). Philosophical arguments do fall into the scientific category, but not arguments based on religious doctrine of any sort. In other words, it would be ok to say something like "everything has to be created from something else, and therefore there has to be an eventual first mover who we will call God", while it would not be ok to say "everything has to come from God because the Bible says so".
Scientific evidence or arguments, or logical arguments or abstractions are all that is allowed.