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[Live Forever]

Maybe our universe started as a science experiment in another universe.

[Cyberbrain]

Wow, this is really cool and is one more step towards understanding our own universe.

[advancedatheist]

Of course scientists can create new universes. What do you think a universe is -- some kind of miracle?

[Mind]

I actually thought about that.. but it put me in a paradox of "then how did the first universe got created?" as one must have been before life created others.

I resolve the paradox by theorizing (ala Fred Hoyle), that everything has always been here. There was no beginning and there will be no end. Things change, new universes come and go, but everything was always here. Of course, this type of theory also makes the Fermi paradox even more amazing.

[mike250]

if things come and go then they must have beginnings and endings or at least boundaries which dictate where and how they exist and when they will ultimately be proceeded by others.

[Live Forever]

if things come and go then they must have beginnings and endings or at least boundaries which dictate where and how they exist and when they will ultimately be proceeded by others.

Why must they?

[mike250]

because I believe its those beginnings and endings that signify the existence of that some-thing. if scientists can create a small-scale ''prototype'' of the universe then I don't see why we can't use those era-marking terms. the fact that we have created it signifies that it has begun.

Edited by mike250, 21 June 2007 - 04:29 PM.

[Harvey Newstrom]

"Some have worried that such an experiment that would create black holes could destroy the entire planet, but Dr Cox dismissed the worries. "The probability is at the level of 10 to the minus 40," he said. That is a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance."

"Only..." This is why I wish we had space travel. Something like this could be done on a separate little asteroid first before it is done on earth. In fact, a lot of physics experiments could be done on an experimental asteroid "just in case". The buffer of outer space between the earth and these experiments would increase safety and would minimize such worries.

[mike250]

they say objects absorbed by black holes come out of white holes. maybe our planet will be transported to another galaxy.

[JohnDoe1234]

"Some have worried that such an experiment that would create black holes could destroy the entire planet, but Dr Cox dismissed the worries. "The probability is at the level of 10 to the minus 40," he said. That is a 1 in 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 chance."

I want to know where they pull these numbers from.

[Live Forever]

I want to know where they pull these numbers from.

Maybe they pull them out of black holes. [:o]

[JohnDoe1234]

or the Brown Eye

[JonesGuy]

I figure this is how we'll avoid heat death. We'll just download are personal consciousnesses into a baby universe when the time is right. It might be a bit sad, because it'll be the last time we get to talk to each other :(

[JonesGuy]

We'll have to worry about Heat Death someday (probably). I know that now is not the time to worry about it, so I don't really do so. That said, I have a tentative solution.

While creating a baby universe (which should have an infinite amount of mass and energy, within its own respect, much like our visible universe), we will do so in such a way to transport our personal consciousness - in other words, make sure that an analogue of our neural structure is created in the new universe while it is being born. Such a process would probably cease our consciousness here, so it carries a theme similar to teleportation. Regardless, at that point, you'd be in the baby universe instead of here. It's a way of being immortal, but you lose all your friends.

But don't worry if I'm totally out to lunch in my thoughts: I'm not much of a physicist, and (like I said) this problem is not really a pressing concern at the moment.