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[deadlift42]

Hi. This is my first post here but I have been reading the forum for a few weeks now.
Here is my humble supplement regimen I have been using for 3 weeks.
I am 33, 6' 165 pounds.

Wake-Up
2 g MSM
1 g TMG
1 mg Methyl-B12

With Breakfast
100mg RALA (from Na-RALA)
150 mg benfotiamine
1 B-Right Capsule (Jarrow)
500 mg Vit. C
200 mcg chromium polynicotinate
175 mg Milk Thistle (80% silymarin)

With Lunch
100mg RALA (from Na-RALA)
150 mg benfotiamine
1 B-Right Capsule (Jarrow)
60 mg Ginkgo Extract
175 mg Milk Thistle (80% silymarin)

With Dinner
100mg RALA (from Na-RALA)
150 mg benfotiamine
175 mg Milk Thistle (80% silymarin)

It's summer here and I get some sun most days. During Late Fall - Early Spring I take 4000 iu Vit D daily.
I am trying to consume the following daily as well:
walnuts, some other nut, 2-5 cups green tea, salmon or sardines, romaine lettuce
and dark chocolate / blueberries

One supplement I am pondering is melatonin. I am on the fence on this one.

[luv2increase]

It looks like a solid regimen. Only thing I'd change is to take your vit-C on an empty stomach.

Many ppl think melatonin is great. I don't have any problems relating to sleep, so I'm not going to introduce this into my routine in fear of it altering already healthy melatonin levels.

[eldar]

Only thing I'd change is to take your vit-C on an empty stomach.

What is the reasoning behind this?

[luv2increase]

What is the reasoning behind this?

Taking vit-c with a meal enhances iron absorption. This isn't the best thing for men. Also, vit-C's own absorption is better without food. Ascorbic Acid is water-soluble.

[krillin]

http://books.nap.edu...069351&page=128

The type of food consumed has not been shown to have a significant effect on absorption of either intrinsic or supplemental vitamin C. The bioavailability of the vitamin naturally found in foods or in the form of a supplement has not been shown to be significantly different from that of pure synthetic ascorbic acid (Johnston and Luo, 1994; Mangels et al., 1993).

[luv2increase]

http://books.nap.edu...030...&page=128

What was the point of your post? How is it relevant?

[krillin]

http://books.nap.edu...030...&page=128

What was the point of your post? How is it relevant?

It rebuts your assertion that vitamin C absorption is improved on an empty stomach. Do you have any contrary evidence?

[niner]

Just a data point here.. a long while ago, I was taking vitamin C on an empty stomach and I developed a bleeding ulcer. My diet at the time was not very good, but I attributed the ulcer to the C. I've not had an ulcer since, (or before, for that matter) despite other periods of equally bad diet. I now always take C after a meal.

[Mind]

For me, too much vitamin C on an empty stomach gives me a "sour" stomach, it's like there is too much acidity or something.

[cell]

Where do you buy Milk Thistle?
I think Vitamin C is to high. Why Ginko?

[deadlift42]

Where do you buy Milk Thistle?
I think Vitamin C is to high. Why Ginko?

500 mg vit C too high?

Milk Thistle is Spring Valley (80% silymarin) from the local Wal-Mart. $5.04 for 100 caps which is about 15 cents per day for 3 caps.

Why ginkgo? It's one of those supplements I take for intuitive reasons I guess. It seems to make me feel better mentally as in memory and things like that. I settled on 60mg as a moderate dose although I know some take 2-4 times that amount.

[baertacgraff]

Mike, Great! Glad you're doing well. I'll try the Milk Thistle. Thanks for sharing. *Smiling!* B

[luv2increase]

http://books.nap.edu...030...&page=128

What was the point of your post? How is it relevant?

It rebuts your assertion that vitamin C absorption is improved on an empty stomach. Do you have any contrary evidence?

Is vitamin c water or fat soluble? That should be sufficient.


Also, maybe some people are just different, but I've taken up to 7g of ascorbic acid a day on an empty stomach and no problems. I've been taking roughly 3-3.5 g a day on 3 divided doses on an empty stomach for quite some time now.

[krillin]

Is vitamin c water or fat soluble?  That should be sufficient.

No, it isn't. I requested evidence because the scientific literature I've read says C absorption is the same, meal or no meal, supplemental or from food.