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[purerealm]

A while ago I took a massive dose of adderall along with acid-reducing supplements to slow the metabolization of it. I had an EKG done and it showed normal results but I for about 2 days afterwards I felt chest discomfort and my heart rate was still elevated. What i'm wondering is if it's possible that i could've gotten out of that episode without any heart damage , like the EKG suggests. I'm wondering because provigil brings about the same sort of chest discomfort, a sensation i've never felt before that one episode.

[unbreakable]

I don't think that you suffered heart damage, but you can have an echo or dobutamine stress test to rule it out.

[luv2increase]

A while ago I took a massive dose of adderall along with acid-reducing supplements to slow the metabolization of it. I had an EKG done and it showed normal results but I for about 2 days afterwards I felt chest discomfort and my heart rate was still elevated. What i'm wondering is  if it's possible that i could've gotten out of that episode without any heart damage , like the EKG suggests. I'm wondering because provigil brings about the same sort of chest discomfort, a sensation i've never felt before that one episode.

I usually had a little chest discomfort with every stimulant I've tried except nicotine. Have you ever thought that maybe stims just aren't for you? Why did you take a massive dose? Hell, a massive dose of caffeine will give just about anyone chest discomfort. It would probably be a good idea to lay of the stims if you can't take them in a responsible manner. [thumb]

[graatch]

I've done this before (toxic recreational stimulant doses) and experienced similar problems, long-lasting shortness of breath, etc. I've seen a cardiologist a couple of times, long after the fun was over, and my heart is fine, but I really advise not doing that kind of thing if you're concerned. I no longer do.

[purerealm]

i took it because it was finals week and my tolerance skyrocketed, so in addition to taking 200 mg of dex, i tried every trick in the book to increase the efficacy. that night i took myself to the hospital and yes in retrospect it was a very stupid thing to do even though i was getting desperate and needed the dex to pass the course.

it's a slight chest pain every time my heart beats, only when i'm on provigil. it could be just paranoia but ever since that episode, now whenever i feel this, all my thoughts center around the pain in my chest and it is very distracting

[ajnast4r]

200 mg of dex,

i took myself to the hospital

needed the dex to pass the course.

i'm on provigil.

my guess is you have a DSM classifiable stimulant addiction and should go see a therapist.

[purerealm]

i don't need stimulants just some fucking energy

[rsnuk]

i don't need stimulants just some fucking energy

Another way of saying:

I don't need stimulating medication, just some stimulation.

Don't we all...

Mate take my advise stop taking them whilse you still can, you have no idea what they are capable of doing to you and take it from me speaking from personal experience, you don't want to find out...

[ajnast4r]

i don't need stimulants just some fucking energy

are you sleeping enough?

have you looking into the possibility of food allergies or insulin resistance?

have you even TRIED to stop using stims all together and letting yourself get back to 'baseline'?


do not get normal energy confused with the dopamine induced mania of amphetamine, caffeine, or any other 'energy in a pill'
regardless of how pleasurable it is, this is not a normal state of being.


if you are taking 200mg of dextroamphetamine, and not finding that to be enough stimulation(shit if you are taking 1/10 of that and not finding it to be enough)... then you have a SERIOUS SERIOUS problem that needs to be addressed by a professional, because you are well on your way to permanently damaging some of the catecholamine systems in your brain that will be VITAL to you maintaining a normal, positive outlook for the rest of your life.

[purerealm]

After the 200 mg episode I stopped using it altogether. For some reason my tolerance to it was skyrocketing. The 200 mg tolerance was a result of just a few days' doses. 2 days before I took the 200 mg, I took something like 110 mg, a week before I took 110, I took 60. Yes, I deliberately spaced out the time in between in high hopes that the tolerance would die down, but I guess my catecholamines have already been shot. I've been clean on amphetamines for more than 3 months now and i just got put on provigil a week ago before debilitating fatigue and concentration issues. I'm starting to think that they're more related to possible atypical depression than anything else..

[ora101]

I actually found increasing the quality of my sleep via a mix of good bedtime supplements i.e. sublingual melatonin, magnesium, zinc, l-lysine, Ash., etc.. was far more effective at increasing daytime energy, motivation, and concentration than typical ADD stimulants. I'd advise you to give those a try in addition to some Vitamin D during the day (amazing for reducing fatigue). From personal experience, Adderall absolutely fucks up REM sleep.

[sp0sp0]

Chest pain is a serious issue. You should tell your doctor that you get it sometimes. You do not have to have it all the time, but you get it some of the time.

I take a beta blocker, atenolol for tachycardia, but that is because of bad cholesterol and health not really medicine.

However, again, chest pain is a very serious issue.

[ora101]

However, again, chest pain is a very serious issue.

I'm pretty sure that most "chest pain" due to stimulants is actually just heartburn. Eat some yogurt a few times a day. Also try out Rhodiola, it actually makes a huge difference in keeping my heart rate from racing when on stims. Pretty cool stuff; I recommended it to another person and he stopped having palpitations as well.

[luv2increase]

However, again, chest pain is a very serious issue.

I'm pretty sure that most "chest pain" due to stimulants is actually just heartburn. Eat some yogurt a few times a day. Also try out Rhodiola, it actually makes a huge difference in keeping my heart rate from racing when on stims. Pretty cool stuff; I recommended it to another person and he stopped having palpitations as well.

I've definitely noticed this as well. Only for caffeine though. Only stim I used while taking rhodiola. For me though, unfortunately, it also too away the energy the coffee would have normally given me--->even at double and triple the dose.

[zoolander]

I wish people would stop ****ing with themselves like this. What made you think that you could just get away with slowing down the metabolism of the compound without potentially dangerous side effects? Especially with a massive dose of Adderall. I know that you probably have learnt a harsh lesson from this pure realm and that this lecturing may be coming a little too late but I'm sending this one out to all those considering cooking up a home brew to potentiate the effects of their favorite medication

"Pull your ****ing heads in"

If your on massive doses of adderall and want more......you have a substance abuse problem. You need to seek some sort of councilling for this problem.

I'll leave you with this quote

"It's a fine line between pleasure and pain"

[ajnast4r]

I'm pretty sure that most "chest pain" due to stimulants is actually just heartburn.  Eat some yogurt a few times a day.  Also try out Rhodiola, it actually makes a huge difference in keeping my heart rate from racing when on stims.  Pretty cool stuff; I recommended it to another person and he stopped having palpitations as well.

ignore everything he said.

honest to god... where did you get the idea that 'chest pain' due to stimulants is just heartburn? thats a dangerous and untrue assumption that is honestly bordering on retardation.

if you are having palpitations or tachycardia due to stimulants (of any kind) YOU STOP USING THAT STIMULANT. FOREVER. you dont try to counteract the side effects... this again, as mentioned by myself and zoo, is a sign of a substance abuse problem.

[zoolander]

here hear AJ.

people really need to listen up to people in the know as opposed to noobs. ora101, under the circumstances you have made a very very dangerous assumption. Regardless of whether it be chest pain or not in this situation it's best to er on the cautious side. Also considering the situation what you have said is like looking at an orange and saying that it's most likely an apple. NOTE that the original poster mentioned taking an acid reducing substance.

GEEEZ!

[Evolutionary]

Maybe some natural nootropics/stimulants instead of pharm/hardcore stimulants will help you?