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#1 tintinet

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 11:18 AM


Posted by Michael Rae on the CR forum earlier today:


"All:

As is well-known at this point, resveratrol is being advanced as a
putative CR mimetic. There are an awful lot of reasons to doubt this
thesis, as outlined in several posts here:

http://www.methusela...isplay.php?f=48

Now the latest: after a very problematic report (1) by the Sinclair lab
of resveratrol-induced life extension in fruit flies (Drosophila
melanogaster) and roundworms (Caenorhabditis elegans), and independent
team has found what one might well have predicted from the various
criticisms of this study:

"We saw no significant effects [of resveratrol] on lifespan [in
Drosophila) in seven independent trials. We analysed our resveratrol and
found that its structure was normal, with no oxidative modifications. We
therefore re-tested the effects of resveratrol in C. elegans, in both
wild-type and sir-2.1 mutant worms. The results were variable, with
resveratrol treatment resulting in slight increases in lifespan in some
trials but not others, in both wild type and sir-2.1 mutant animals. We
postulate that the effect of resveratrol upon lifespan in C. elegans
could reflect induction of phase 2 drug detoxification or activation of
AMP kinase."

-Michael


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Posted 20 September 2007 - 12:02 PM

Even if this is so, there are still other benefits to t-res supplementation, including the metf synergies to diabetics (and aging by implication) reported by Sirtris, the preventive effect on cancer and cardiovascular disease, and the antioxidant effects. Still, would be quite a blow. What are the news on the Sirtris mammal studies, is what I would like to know...

Update: why aren't more people contributing to this [huh] Should be on the top of everybody's list, given all the resv heads around here ?

Edited by asnufu, 20 September 2007 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 20 September 2007 - 02:54 PM

What are the news on the Sirtris mammal studies, is what I would like to know...

I tried to contact them about that. No response. I used the general information e-mail address though, so maybe it's just slow reaction due to overload. It has been more than a week ago.

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 03:02 PM

Um, more confusion about one of the most studied substance out there--I've been considering Resveratrol but I've held back so far. Overall it seems to be doing much good--only recent data showing no life extension in fruit flies and roundworms is puzzling....ummm

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 03:06 PM

Found this article interesting on the many benefits of Resv.

http://www.knowledge.....Heart Disease,

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 03:10 PM

Without the complete paper, it is hard to draw any conclusions. The abstract gives no information as to dosage or other aspects of the design.
(Effects of resveratrol on lifespan in Drosophila melanogaster and Caenorhabditis elegans, Pub Med ID 17875315 )




Here's another interesting paper:

Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2007 Apr;1100:530-42. Links
Evidence for a trade-off between survival and fitness caused by resveratrol treatment of Caenorhabditis elegans.Gruber J, Tang SY, Halliwell B.
National University of Singapore University Hall, Lee Kong Chian Wing, UHL no. 05-02G, 21 Lower Kent Ridge Road, Singapore.

Resveratrol is a naturally occurring polyphenolic compound commonly found in plant-derived products, including red wine. A large number of beneficial effects including anticarcinogenic action and protection from atherosclerotic disease have been attributed to resveratrol. Increased resveratrol intake has been suggested as an explanation for the beneficial effects of moderate red wine consumption. Resveratrol also consistently extends the mean and maximum life span in model organisms including nematode worms. It has been suggested that resveratrol exerts its life-span-extending effect through calorie restriction or hormesis mimetic effects. We have characterized the effect of resveratrol on stress resistance, developmental rate, growth, and fecundity in the nematode worm Caenorhabditis elegans in order to determine whether the beneficial effects of resveratrol on life span are associated with trade-offs in terms of early life fitness in nematodes. We find that resveratrol treatment increases stress resistance, specifically to oxidative stress, and causes a small but significant decrease in fecundity early in life without affecting overall fecundity. Resveratrol increased mean and maximum life span by delaying the onset of the exponential increase in mortality characterizing the "dying phase" in C. elegans, but did not affect the dying phase itself, suggesting that it did not act by directly affecting metabolism.

PMID: 17460219 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Edited by maxwatt, 20 September 2007 - 03:35 PM.


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Posted 20 September 2007 - 04:13 PM

Well, it did show life extending properties and other benefits in this first study of resveratrol in a vertebrate species-a fish. This was one of the papers that started getting people excited before Sinclair's Nature paper came out.

Curr Biol. 2006 Feb 7;16(3):296-300. Resveratrol prolongs lifespan and retards the onset of age-related markers in a short-lived vertebrate.
Valenzano DR, Terzibasi E, Genade T, Cattaneo A, Domenici L, Cellerino A.

Scuola Normale Superiore, 56100 Pisa, Italy.

Resveratrol, a natural phytoalexin found in grapes and red wine, increases longevity in the short-lived invertebrates Caenorhabditis elegans and Drosophila and exerts a variety of biological effects in vertebrates, including protection from ischemia and neurotoxicity. Its effects on vertebrate lifespan were not yet known. The relatively long lifespan of mice, which live at least 2.5 years, is a hurdle for life-long pharmacological trials. Here, the authors used the short-lived seasonal fish Nothobranchius furzeri with a maximum recorded lifespan of 13 weeks in captivity. Short lifespan in this species is not the result of spontaneous or targeted genetic mutations, but a natural trait correlated with the necessity to breed in an ephemeral habitat and tied with accelerated development and expression of ageing biomarkers at a cellular level. Resveratrol was added to the food starting in early adulthood and caused a dose-dependent increase of median and maximum lifespan. In addition, resveratrol delays the age-dependent decay of locomotor activity and cognitive performances and reduces the expression of neurofibrillary degeneration in the brain. These results demonstrate that food supplementation with resveratrol prolongs lifespan and retards the expression of age-dependent traits in a short-lived vertebrate.

PMID: 16461283

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 06:36 PM

Someone moved this to the Bioscience section. It's likely to get more views here so I am reposting it.

New study from Dr. Sinclair:


[QUOTE
B]Researchers find connection between caloric restriction and longevity[/B]
BOSTON, Mass. (September 20, 2007)--For nearly 70 years scientists have known that caloric restriction prolongs life. In everything from yeast to primates, a significant decrease in calories can extend lifespan by as much as one-third. But getting under the hood of the molecular machinery that drives this longevity has remained elusive.

Now, reporting in the September 21 issue of the journal Cell, researchers from Harvard Medical School, in collaboration with scientists from Cornell Medical School and the National Institutes of Health, have discovered two genes in mammalian cells that act as gatekeepers for cellular longevity. When cells experience certain kinds of stress, such as caloric restriction, these genes rev up and help protect cells from diseases of aging.

"We've reason to believe now that these two genes may be potential drug targets for diseases associated with aging," says David Sinclair, associate professor of pathology at Harvard Medical School and senior author on the paper.

The new genes that Sinclair's group have discovered, in collaboration with Anthony Sauve of Cornell Medical School and Rafael de Cabo of NIH, are called SIRT3 and SIRT4. They are members of a larger class of genes called sirtuins. (Another gene belonging to this family, SIRT1, was shown last year to also have a powerful impact on longevity when stimulated by the red-wine molecule resveratrol.)

In this paper, the newly discovered role of SIRT3 and SIRT4 drives home something scientists have suspected for a long time: mitochondria are vital for sustaining the health and longevity of a cell.

Mitochondria, a kind of cellular organ that lives in the cytoplasm, are often considered to be the cell's battery packs. When mitochondria stability starts to wane, energy is drained out of the cell, and its days are numbered. In this paper, Sinclair and his collaborators discovered that SIRT3 and SIRT4 play a vital role in a longevity network that maintains the vitality of mitochondria and keeps cells healthy when they would otherwise die.

When cells undergo caloric restriction, signals sent in through the membrane activate a gene called NAMPT. As levels of NAMPT ramp up, a small molecule called NAD begins to amass in the mitochondria. This, in turn, causes the activity of enzymes created by the SIRT3 and SIRT4 genes--enzymes that live in the mitochondria--to increase as well. As a result, the mitochondria grow stronger, energy-output increases, and the cell's aging process slows down significantly. (Interestingly, this same process is also activated by exercise.)

"We're not sure yet what particular mechanism is activated by these increased levels of NAD, and as a result SIRT3 and SIRT4," says Sinclair, "but we do see that normal cell-suicide programs are noticeably attenuated. This is the first time ever that SIRT3 and SIRT4 have been linked to cell survival."

In fact, the mitochondria appear to be so essential to the cell's life that when all other energy sources inside the cell--including the nucleus--are wiped out, yet the mitochondria are kept intact and functional, the cell remains alive.

"Mitochondria are the guardians of cell survival," says Sinclair. "If we can keep boosting levels of NAD in the mitochondria, which in turn stimulates buckets more of SIRT3 and SIRT4, then for a period of time the cell really needs nothing else."

Sinclair and his colleagues have coined a phrase for this observation: the Mitochondrial Oasis Hypothesis.

SIRT3 and SIRT4 may now also be potential drug targets for diseases associated with aging. For example, in recent years scientists have become increasingly aware of the importance of mitochondrial function in treating diseases such as cancer, diabetes, and neurodegeneration.

"Theoretically, we can envision a small molecule that can increase levels of NAD, or SIRT3 and SIRT4 directly, in the mitochondria," says Sinclair. "Such a molecule could be used for many age-related diseases."

According to Suave of Cornell, "This study also highlights how advanced technological methods can help resolve fundamental biological questions in ways that were hard to achieve as recently as a few years ago."


Westphal says:

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Christoph Westphal, M.D., Ph.D., Chief Executive Officer of Sirtris Pharmaceuticals added, "These exciting new data further validate sirtuins as attractive targets for drug development to treat diseases of aging. This study identifies SIRT3 and SIRT4 as additional targets, expanding beyond previous work which focused on targeting SIRT1. These findings broaden the potential of Sirtris' drug discovery platform and intellectual property focused on sirtuin modulators to treat a number of diseases of aging such as metabolic, mitochondrial, inflammatory and neurological disorders, and cancer.""In the mitochondria of the cell there is a molecule called 'NAD' that determines the ability of the cell to resist damage. Mitochondrial NAD levels have never been measured before and have never been linked to controlling cell death or metabolism until now," stated study author and Sirtris co-founder and co-chair of the Scientific Advisory Board (SAB), David A. Sinclair, Ph.D. "In this study we found that increased levels of NAD protect cells from dying by activating relatives of the anti-aging gene SIRT1 that reside in the mitochondria - SIRT3 and SIRT4. Fasting increases the level of NAD and both SIRT3 and SIRT4 also control metabolism, so this discovery further explains how fasting affects cell survival and alters our metabolism by triggering these sirtuins."

Dr. Westphal added, "We are currently in Phase 1b and Phase 2a clinical trials with our first sirtuin modulator, SRT501, a proprietary formulation of resveratrol, which activates the SIRT1 enzyme. SRT501 represents our first clinical-stage drug candidate. We are also developing a robust portfolio of novel SIRT1 activator drug candidates that are proprietary compounds significantly more potent than, and structurally unrelated to, resveratrol."


He is not saying that Resveratrol activates SIRT 3/4. Does this mean that Resveratrol works differently than fasting or does resveratrol also activate SIRT 3/4?


http://biz.yahoo.com...05089.html?.v=1
http://www.eurekaler...s-rfc091707.php

Video, must watch.
http://hms.harvard.e...ic/video/ds.mov

Edited by velopismo, 20 September 2007 - 08:54 PM.


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Posted 20 September 2007 - 06:51 PM

Not much new stuff here but it does give more info about resveratrol's skeptics, interestingly Dr. Guarente is no longer one of them. Perhaps the new study about SIRT 3/4 will give fuel for resveratrol doubters.

The Enthusiast

A controversial biologist at Harvard claims he can extend life span and treat diseases of aging. He may be right.

By David Ewing Duncan

David Sinclair is very good at persuading people. The catch, says a longtime colleague and scientific rival, is that he is sometimes overly optimi stic about his results. "David is brilliant, but sometimes he is too passionate and impatient for a scientist," says another colleague. "So far, he is fortunate that his claims have turned out to be mostly true."

Sinclair's basic claim is simple, if seemingly improb­able: he has found an elixir of youth. In his Australian drawl, the 38-year-old Harvard University professor of pathology explains how he discovered that resveratrol, a chemical found in red wine, extends life span in mice by up to 24 percent and in other animals, including flies and worms, by as much as 59 percent. Sinclair hopes that resveratrol will bump up the life span of people, too. "The system at work in the mice and other organisms is evolutionarily very old, so I suspect that what works in mice will work in humans," he says.

Sinclair thinks resveratrol works by activating SIRT1, a gene that many scientists believe plays a fundamental role in regulating life span in animals. Biologists have found that increasing the expression of SIRT1 slows aging and fends off maladies associated with growing old, including cancer and heart disease. If Sinclair is right, and resveratrol can activate SIRT1--and if the gene does in fact help control aging--he has found something truly remarkable.

The scientific uncertainty surrounding Sinclair's claims hasn't stopped him from raising millions of dollars. In 2004 it took him a single lunch meeting to persuade California philanthropist Paul Glenn to put up $5 million for a new Harvard institute on aging, of which Sinclair is now a director. Sinclair also cofounded Sirtris Pharmaceuticals to develop drugs based on resveratrol and helped persuade an A-list of venture investors to pony up $103 million in private funding. In late May, the company made an initial public offering that netted $62 million more. The stock price quickly rose 20 percent, providing Sinclair, who holds less than 1 percent of the shares, with a pleasant (if, for now, notional) addition to his academic salary--and possibly a big payday should the company ever produce a fountain-of-youth pill. "I grew up middle class in Sydney," he says, flashing a characteristically shy though confident smile. "As an academic, I never expected to be wealthy, so any extra is unexpected, although [it] feels pretty good."

Later, Sinclair winces when I mention that some colleagues describe him as a good salesman. "Scientists don't like to be called salesmen," he says. "It's an insult." Still, he says, "I believe in my work and advocate for my conclusions." One thing is certain: Sinclair's persuasiveness gives him an edge over his rivals in a field where a good deal of money and glory is at stake--not to mention potential impact on the future of medicine.

Obsessed
Sinclair says his bravado and drive come from his grandmother Vera, who fled to Australia in the wake of the failed 1956 revolution in her native Hungary. Her son, David's father, changed the family name from Szigeti. "My grandmother is the black-sheep rebel of the family," he says. "She gave birth to my dad at age 15 in 1939--imagine the scandal then--and has lived with natives in New Guinea and eaten human flesh, among other things. She once got in trouble with the police for being the first person to wear a bikini on a Sydney beach. She's a '60s bohemian who helped raise me and taught me how to think differently and to question dogma."

A slight man with a mischievous smile, Sinclair grew up in St. Ives, near Sydney, where as a boy he liked to make bombs from chlorine or gunpowder to blow things up. "It was rebellious and dangerous," he says. "That was the thrill. I think I was bored." When he was seven years old, he came up with a list of 10 ways to change the world, and one was to create inventions to make money. Later, he took up windsurfing and racing around in cars. He got so many speeding tickets that he once had his license confiscated. "He was always quite cheeky and could get under your skin if he knew you well enough," says Mark Sumich, his best friend growing up.

"I think the day I got most scared in my life was when he showed me his brother's new compound bow," recalls Sumich, who now owns a market-research company in Australia. "We went up to the park, and he would shoot it straight up in the air, and having lost sight of it, we would scatter for cover. That, to this day, is still the most stupid thing I have ever done."

Sinclair attended the University of New South Wales and was studying gene regulation in yeast when he learned about longevity research during a conversation with Leonard ­Guarente, an MIT molecular biologist who was in Australia giving lectures. Back then--1993--most people assumed that aging was a complex and inevitable process that could not be regulated by just a few genes. But that year, Cynthia ­Kenyon, a biologist at the University of California, San Francisco, published a study showing how manipulating a single gene, daf2, could double the life span of a tiny roundworm. Guarente himself was beginning experiments on yeast that would lead to the discovery of the antiaging gene sir2 in 1995.

The field was so new and unproven, though, that ­Guarente talked about it only informally--as, for instance, when a young Australian scientist sat down next to him during a group lunch. "This was incredibly serendipitous," says Sinclair. Inspired, he sold his Mazda Miata to buy a ticket to Boston to interview for a postdoc position in ­Guarente's lab. During his interview, he gave a spirited whiteboard presentation arguing that scientists studying aging should look for genes that prolong life rather than genes and mecha­nisms that end it. He got the job.

While Sinclair was in Guarente's lab in the late 1990s, he discovered that sir2 prevents aging in yeast by slowing down the accumulation of ERCs, circular strands of DNA that build up in organisms as they age, eventually killing them. Around the same time, others in Guarente's lab made another crucial discovery: that a link may exist between sir2 and a molecule critical for metabolizing food, called NAD. The connection suggested that the longevity gene might be related to diet--specifically, Guarente postulated, to caloric restriction. A nutritionally complete diet containing 30 to 40 percent fewer calories than normal had long been known to extend life span in some animals, ramping up cell defenses and slowing down aging. Guarente and others theorize that in times of scarcity, such as famine or drought, this mechanism allows an organism to survive--and postpone reproduction--until the crisis is over. The link between sir2 and NAD, therefore, suggested to Guarente that caloric restriction might be affecting longevity by activating the antiaging gene.

Colleagues who were students in Guarente's lab during this period remember Sinclair as highly ambitious. Shin‑ichiro Imai, then a postdoc, now a molecular biologist at Washington University in St. Louis, and still a friend, describes him as "obsessed," with a penchant for aggressively pursuing his ideas. "He is an introvert who becomes an extrovert for what he's working on," Imai says.

Sinclair's ambition has also complicated his relationship with his mentor, who helped him secure an appointment in Harvard Medical School's department of pathology in 1999. Guarente, a lanky man with a shaved head and intense eyes, says he is proud of his protégé. In 2004, however, an article in Science described a rivalry between the two men that began during a meeting at Cold Spring Harbor in New York, where Sinclair stunned Guarente by disagreeing with him about how a key gene associated with caloric restriction increases life span in yeast. The two began publishing competing papers, vying head to head to figure out how sir2 and, later, other antiaging genes are regulated. "Most young scientists would not compete directly with their mentors, but David did," says Imai.

Sinclair also said no to signing on with Elixir Pharmaceuticals, the company cofounded by Guarente and ­Cynthia Kenyon in 1999, which for a time he had hoped to join. By the time Elixir called, he had discovered the effects of ­resveratrol; in 2004 he surprised his former teacher by cofounding Sirtris, a company whose name incorporated that of the SIR genes that Guarente had helped to discover.

Both men say that Science overstated the extent of the rift between them. There was some tension for a couple of years, they say, but that has died down. They now collabo­rate on some experiments and articles, and they talk frequently. In a curious turnaround, Guarente left Elixir last year and has considered working with Sirtris, although he can't join the company until the fall of 2007 because of a one-year noncompete clause in his contract with Elixir.
Breakthrough
In 2003, one unsolved mystery among the still-small cadre of longevity researchers was how to modulate genes, such as SIRT1, that regulate life span. Was there a compound that could be taken as a pill? Elixir and other companies and labs were beginning to screen thousands of chemicals to see if one would work as a gene activator, but none fit the bill.

In February 2003, in what was then his small, shoestring lab at Harvard, Sinclair was doing his own screening when he learned that scientists at Biomol Research Laboratories, a biotech company in Plymouth Meeting, PA, had observed that SIRT1 was activated by certain polyphenols, including resveratrol. Sinclair and Konrad Howitz, Biomol's director of molecular biology, collaborated to isolate resveratrol and test it in yeast and fruit flies. "Never in my wildest dreams did I think we would find an activator of sir2," says Sinclair.

In a 2004 Science interview, Sinclair added to his reputation as a zealot, calling resveratrol "as close to a miraculous molecule as you can find." "One hundred years from now," he said, "people will maybe be taking these molecules on a daily basis to prevent heart disease, stroke, and cancer."

That same year, two scientists who were students in ­Guarente's lab when Sinclair was there published a paper casting doubt on the underpinning of Guarente's hypothe­­sis that caloric restriction activates sir2--a hypothesis that is critical to Sinclair's own theories. ("I have independent-minded students, I guess," Guarente told me with a wry smile.) The former students, Brian Kennedy and Matt ­Kaeberlein, both biologists at the University of Washington, claimed that, at least in yeast, caloric restriction could exert antiaging effects in the absence of sirtuins--the enzymes produced by sir2 and its mammalian homologues (such as SIRT1). Studies published soon after posed a more direct challenge to Sinclair's contention that resveratrol mimics caloric restriction by activating sirtuins. Peter DiStefano, a coauthor of one of these studies and the chief scientific officer of Elixir, told me in 2005 that resveratrol does wondrous things, but it is unlikely to be an activator of the SIRT1 enzyme.

That skepticism, however, didn't deter Sinclair. In 2004 he set out to prove that resveratrol indeed mimicked some effects of caloric restriction, joining with Rafael de Cabo of the National Institute on Aging to test the chemical on mice.

Mice live about two to three years; when I first visited Sinclair's lab, in 2005, his test mice were about a year old. Sinclair was already ecstatic, because the resveratrol-fed mice seemed healthier than the controls; their cells were also aging remarkably slowly, even though the mice were being fed a fatty, unhealthy diet. When the paper on these experiments came out the following year in Nature, the results supported the claims Sinclair had been making about resveratrol in mammals. They showed that mice on a high-fat diet fed large doses of resveratrol were as healthy as mice on a regular diet. Resveratrol also improved the mice's insulin sensitivity and increased their energy production.

The mice were given very high doses of resveratrol--22 milligrams per kilogram of weight. In comparison, a liter of red wine delivers 1.5 to 3 milligrams. To consume ­resveratrol at the same rate as the mice, a 150-pound human would need to drink roughly 1,500 bottles of wine (or take scores of pills) each day.

Sinclair's paper came out within days of a study in Cell from the lab of Johan Auwerx of the Institute of Genetics and Molecular and Cellular Biology in Illkirch, France. ­Auwerx's team, which was partially funded by Sirtris ­(Auwerx is on the company's scientific advisory board), had given mice even higher doses of resveratrol--400 milligrams per kilogram. These mice stayed slender and strong on a high-fat diet, with the energy-charged muscles and reduced heart rate of athletes. The number of mitochondria in their cells increased, which improved the cells' energy output.

Sinclair's and Auwerx's success in extending the life span and improving the health of mice has partly assuaged critics' doubts that resveratrol can work in mammals. "Both studies are extremely exciting," says Kaeberlein; it's "pretty clear" that resveratrol modifies certain proteins, such as mitochondrial proteins associated with energy production. ­Kaeberlein points out, however, that the tests involved mice on a high-fat diet and should be duplicated with mice on a normal diet.

And Kaeberlein is not yet convinced that resveratrol is an activator of the SIRT1 enzyme. "We were unable to reproduce the work from the Sinclair lab in yeast," ­he says, adding that results have been mixed in flies, worms, and other animals. He also still disagrees that sir2 is the pathway by which caloric restriction increases longevity in yeast. "Sir2 regulates longevity, and caloric restriction regu­lates longevity," he says. But it doesn't follow that caloric restriction necessarily increases life span by activating sir2.
Critics point out, too, that no one yet knows whether resveratrol will work in humans. According to Harvard population biologist Lloyd Demetrius, the evolutionary forces determining life span are so radically different in mice and humans that mechanisms responsible for slower aging in mice are unlikely to have much effect in people. Demetrius has studied caloric restriction, not resveratrol, but he's still skeptical of the chemical's viability as a drug. "I think its effects on the maximal life span in humans will be almost zero," he says.
A Believer
One convert to Sinclair's views on the effects of resveratrol was Christoph Westphal, then a partner at Polaris Venture Partners, based in Waltham, MA. Though only 35 years old, Westphal had already cofounded two publicly traded companies, Momenta Pharmaceuticals and Alnylam Pharmaceuticals--both Cambridge, MA, biotech startups developing novel drugs. Westphal read the paper and e-mailed Sinclair, who was already working on starting a company. Sinclair had had someone else in mind as CEO, but he and Westphal hit it off.

"David was young and controversial," says Westphal. "Half the people thought he was crazy, and they were pounding on him. But I saw something in him and believed in his science." Westphal and Sinclair are now close friends, with adjacent desks in a small office at Sirtris. Sinclair spends his Saturdays at work, often bringing his two older children to play with Westphal's two kids. ­Sinclair says that he and Westphal exchange 50 e-mails a day.

I accompanied Westphal one day last winter on his morning walk from his home in Brookline, MA, across the Charles River to Sirtris's offices in Cambridge. He explained that Sirtris's intention is not to produce drugs that extend life span. "That is not an end point recognized by the FDA," he said. "Our end points will be specific diseases." The company has developed a supercharged version of resveratrol, called SRT501. It has also discovered novel small molecules that are not related to resveratrol but, it claims, are a thousand times as potent in activating the ­sirtuins. So far, animal tests have shown that the drugs may help treat neurological disorders and diabetes.

This past spring, the company launched phase I human trials of SRT501 in patients with diabetes; it also plans human trials later this year to test the drug as a treatment for Melas syndrome, a rare disorder that hastens aging and causes fatal deterioration of the brain and muscles. Sirtris expects to begin human trials of its non-resveratrol compounds in the first half of 2008.

Keeping Score
From his modern ninth-floor office on the Harvard Medical School Campus in Boston, Sinclair has a view that includes Fenway Park. "I can see the scores light up at night," he says. I'm there on an oddly warm day in January, when a few trees are budding and the sky is crystal blue. On a shelf are a book by the Australian golfer Greg Norman called The Way of the Shark and a number of textbooks. Behind ­Sinclair's desk are pictures of his wife and children.

Sinclair's Harvard lab, now well funded, is working feverishly to clarify the health benefits of resveratrol and other compounds, and to discover exactly how sirtuins work on aging and the diseases of aging. In experiments involving thousands of mice, researchers are homing in on different sirtuin pathways and determining how they affect different diseases. Sinclair smiles and tells me they are getting great results, but he can't say any more on the record. He does say he is working with Guarente on some experiments. "Lenny and I typically don't work on things that aren't important," he says.
It has been two years since I last saw him, and in that time Sinclair has become more seasoned, more confident about fending off critics, and more comfortable with his stance as a scientist-zealot. "I am a science rebel," he says. "That's who I am. Everything we publish is criticized."

In the conference room where I join his team to watch a presentation, the table is made of blond wood, and the black mesh chairs look expensive. Sinclair is dressed conservatively in a dark-red button-down shirt and gray slacks--not exactly the clothes of a rebel. A postdoc, Juan J. Carmona, gives a talk about what happens to the SIR system when a worm is exposed to the stressor of heat; Sinclair asks questions, pushing hard. Like most leading academic scientists with labs, he does little bench research himself, leaving the experiments to his students. His own success is highly dependent on their work. In the end, Sinclair looks pleased when Carmona describes how heat activated the sir2 pathway and increased life span in the worms.

Students in Sinclair's lab say he sometimes seems driven, and he admits that he is: "I'm driven to get to goals as fast as possible. It frustrates people in my lab who have something they think is cool, but if it doesn't move us forward, I don't want to do it." He says he views all the experiments being done at Sirtris, all his work, as part of a master plan. "I see this laid out in my mind, every step. But it's happening faster than I imagined--it's taking 10 years instead of 20 years."

"When will it be ready for humans?" I ask.

"This will impact humans within a decade," he says. "That's why I don't think there is anything more important than this quest. That's why I take chances, and why the controversy is worth it: because I think we are right."

He is also not averse to discussing the possibility that a Nobel Prize will someday be awarded to longevity researchers--something Lenny Guarente has also mentioned, though with the "I don't really think much about it" attitude that is typical of senior scientists talking about the ultimate award. If such a prize is given, Sinclair says, Guarente and Cynthia Kenyon are likely to be two of the winners--out of a possible maximum of three.

"And the third person on the prize, who will that be?" I ask.

Sinclair smiles coyly and says nothing.

David Ewing Duncan is a freelance journalist. His last article for Technology Review was "Brain Boosters," in the July/August issue.
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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:07 PM

As is with most supplements there are positive, neutral, and negative study results. So far it would seem the balance is positive for resveratrol. Given the high degree of interest in resveratrol we should get a lot more data rather soon (within the next year or so).

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 07:23 PM

....... Does this mean that Resveratrol works differently than fasting or does resveratrol also activate SIRT 3/4?


Yes, it does. Resveratrol activates all seven SirT genes.

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 08:53 PM

Yes, it does. Resveratrol activates all seven SirT genes.


I seem to remember that it does too but I can find nothing on the net that says resveratrol activates SIRT3/4. Sinclair seems to be hinting that resveratrol or it's cousins are not the molecules that activate SIRT3/4.

"Theoretically, we can envision a small molecule that can increase levels of NAD, or SIRT3 and SIRT4 directly, in the mitochondria," says Sinclair. "Such a molecule could be used for many age-related diseases."


http://www.scienceda...70920122209.htm

This suggests that if SIRT3 and SIRT4 could be chemically activated, it might be possible to achieve the benefits of caloric restriction without the diet. That could slow the progress of diseases based on cell death, such as Alzheimer's, cancer and diabetes, he said, and possibly extend life span as a result.

Sinclair said he is now looking for compounds that could activate SIRT3, and, as co-founder of Sirtris Pharmaceuticals, a drug development company that focuses on sirtuins, he is in a position to do so.

http://health.usnews...d-longevity.htm

But we know that resveratrol stimulates mitochondria production so would that accomplish the same thing as stimulating SIRT 3/4? It's over my head.

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:26 PM

Here is the Cell study online:
http://www.cell.com/...092867407009737

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Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:47 PM

Thanks for the link, velopismo. I saw your first post in the Supplement section this morning but then it disappeared. Thanks for bringing it back.

Doing a pubmed search, not much there on Sirt3 or 4.....

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 06:12 AM

Someone moved this to the Bioscience section. It's likely to get more views here so I am reposting it

Thanks for the link, velopismo.   I saw your first post in the Supplement section this morning but then it disappeared.  Thanks for bringing it back.

I did move it to the bio-science forum since it was more on that level of research and less related to practical supplementation. Maybe my action was to assertive in this case. Anyway, I personally use the active topics button so that I do not miss interesting postings, so my thought also was that it wouldn't hurt accessibility that much.

It surely was not my intention to move it away from attention. Sorry for that. Interesting debate! :)

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 12:16 PM

Here is the Cell study online:
http://www.cell.com/...092867407009737


If boosting the NAD/NADH ratio is key, then why isn't Benagene getting more exposure ? Seems a more direct way to achieve the same objective, and the guy behind is an mprize contester = means business, you would think. The active substance is a krebs cycle intermediate, as I recall, so you would think it wasn't harder to get one's hands on than pure t-res ? Just wondering why we're not pursuing more avenues while we wait for sirtris NCEs to pop out of the lab [huh]

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 02:50 PM

Sirtris is publicly traded? What's the symbol?

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 03:08 PM

Sirtris is publicly traded?  What's the symbol?

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 04:28 PM

The market likes the news about SIRT 3/4 activators. New high on large volume. This should give Sirtris the jump on SIRT 3/4 drugs over competitors. Lets just hope that activating SIRT 3/4 does not increase your risk for cancer.

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 04:37 PM

Ok, so now that we're talking about all the sirtuins, I had to go look for a good review/overview article on them. This recent one in the Annals of Medicine popped up, its a pretty good read and Auwerx is one of the authors. I like the title, too... [lol]

Ann Med. 2007;39(5):335-45. Sirtuins: The 'magnificent seven', function, metabolism and longevity.
Dali-Youcef N, Lagouge M, Froelich S, Koehl C, Schoonjans K, Auwerx J. Institut de Génétique et de Biologie Moléculaire et Cellulaire de Strasbourg (IGBMC), INSERM/CNRS/ULP, Illkirch, France.

The sirtuin family of histone deacetylases (HDACs) was named after their homology to the Saccharomyces cerevisiae gene silent information regulator 2 (Sir2). In the yeast, Sir2 has been shown to mediate the effects of calorie restriction on the extension of life span and high levels of Sir2 activity promote longevity. Like their yeast homologs, the mammalian sirtuins (SIRT1-7) are class III HDACs and require NAD(+) as a cofactor to deacetylate substrates ranging from histones to transcriptional regulators. Through this activity, sirtuins are shown to regulate important biological processes ranging from apoptosis, adipocyte and muscle differentiation, and energy expenditure to gluconeogenesis. We review here the current knowledge regarding the role of sirtuins in metabolism, longevity, and discuss the possible therapeutic applications that could result from the understanding of their function in different organs and pathologies.

PMID: 17701476 [PubMed - in process]

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An article in today's Boston Herald makes it clear that Sirtris does not have a drug at this time that activates SIRT 3/4.

Scientists at Cambridge-based Sirtris Pharmaceuticals and Harvard University are shedding more light on new ways to fight aging, research they say could lead to longer, healthier life.

The scientists, including Sirtris co-founder David Sinclair, reported in the journal Cell details of how a calorie-restrictive diet activates key enzymes that protect cells in lab animals.

The study focused on a group of enzymes, known as sirtuins, which provide a key link between metabolism and lifespan. It provided more evidence for the idea that a low-calorie diet - or a pill that would mimic its effects - activates these life-extending enzymes. Sirtris already has a drug - a concentrated form of resveratrol, which is found in red wine. The drug, called SRT501, now in clinical trials, activates the first of the human body’s seven sirtuins.Yesterday’s discovery establishes a link between activating two other sirtuins, SIRT3 and SIRT4, and protecting cells from death and damage.

“We’ve reason to believe now that these two genes may be potential drug targets for diseases associated with aging,” said Sinclair, who is an associate professor of pathology at Harvard Medical School.

Christoph Westphal, Sirtris’ chief executive officer, agreed, “These findings broaden the potential of Sirtris’ drug discovery platform and intellectual property focused on sirtuin modulators to treat a number of diseases of aging such as metabolic, mitochrondrial, inflammatory and neurological disorders, and cancer.”

Westphal said Sirtris has not yet developed a drug to activate SIRT3 and SIRT4, but he added that results from human clinical trials of SRT501 should be available by the end of the year. Still, the company is several years from having a drug ready for the market.
That’s too bad, said Westphal, who counts Red Sox [team stats] principal owner John Henry among the company’s major investors.

“We need to get the Red Sox on SIRT3 activators,” Westphal joked.



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Posted 21 September 2007 - 06:41 PM

I think they are talking about the NCE's ... ?

Technically they haven't developed any items considered drugs by the FDA at this point.

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 07:08 PM

Yay, a new term...

We refer to the ability of mitochondria to dictate cell survival as the “Mitochondrial Oasis Effect.”



Still a lot to flush out from glancing through the article in Cell

For those of us that bought early, it might be time to sell as this'll probably bounce back down a bit...

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 07:17 PM

Also, is it possible that the shifting emphasis in press releases to other SIRTs is due to less-than-stellar results (unannounced of course) from the initial trials of SRT501?

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 08:57 PM

Technically they haven't developed any items considered drugs by the FDA at this point.


You could be right. Maybe they have candidates that are still in testing but no "drug" as defined by the FDA. It's not clear from Westphals statement whether or not he considers SRT501 (resveratrol) a "developed drug" to activate SIRT 3/4. What a wild day on the street. One minute I'm up 35% in one day and the next I'm "only" up 14%. I wonder what happened in the last 20 minutes of trading. Maybe some insiders dumped?

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 09:26 PM

Wow, Sirt's stock is skyrocketing.

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Posted 21 September 2007 - 09:31 PM

Don't know about your portfolio, mine wasn't so volatile. RE: Sinclair, this in Cell Magazine today:

Nutrient-Sensitive Mitochondrial NAD+ Levels Dictate Cell Survival
Hongying Yang,1,6 Tianle Yang,2 Joseph A. Baur,1 Evelyn Perez,3 Takashi Matsui,5 Juan J. Carmona,1 Dudley W. Lamming,1 Nadja C. Souza-Pinto,4 Vilhelm A. Bohr,4 Anthony Rosenzweig,5 Rafael de Cabo,3 Anthony A. Sauve,2 and David A. Sinclair1
Summary


A major cause of cell death caused by genotoxic stress is thought to be due to the depletion of NAD+ from the nucleus and the cytoplasm. Here we show that NAD+ levels in mitochondria remain at physiological levels following genotoxic stress and can maintain cell viability even when nuclear and cytoplasmic pools of NAD+ are depleted. Rodents fasted for 48 hr show increased levels of the NAD+ biosynthetic enzyme Nampt and a concomitant increase in mitochondrial NAD+. Increased Nampt provides protection against cell death and requires an intact mitochondrial NAD+ salvage pathway as well as the mitochondrial NAD+-dependent deacetylases SIRT3 and SIRT4. We discuss the relevance of these findings to understanding how nutrition modulates physiology and to the evolution of apoptosis.



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Posted 22 September 2007 - 01:50 AM

Ha! Figures: I thought the recent news (lack of evidence for t-resv. life extension) would result in stock price drop. Nevertheless, having owned Geron (GERN) for many years, I expect more dramatic pops and drops ahead for SIRT.

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 04:17 PM

....... Does this mean that Resveratrol works differently than fasting or does resveratrol also activate SIRT 3/4?


Yes, it does. Resveratrol activates all seven SirT genes.


I have to correct my statement; activation of SIRT3 and 4 by resveratrol is slight, if any. It has been shown, however, to activate SIRT5 which is also a mitochondrial Sirtuin.

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Posted 22 September 2007 - 11:24 PM

Maxwatt,

Do you know of any commonly accepted as safe supplements which might activate SIRT3 and 4?
I was wondering about sillymarin.




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