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#1 s123

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Posted 14 February 2008 - 09:54 PM


From 1951 to 1955 serum cholesterol levels were measured in 1959 men and 2415 women aged between 31 and 65 years who were free of cardiovascular disease (CVD) and cancer. Under age 50 years, cholesterol levels are directly related with 30-year overall and CVD mortality; overall death increases 5% and CVD death 9% for each 10 mg/dL. After age 50 years there is no increased overall mortality with either high or low serum cholesterol levels. There is a direct association between falling cholesterol levels over the first 14 years and mortality over the following 18 years (11% overall and 14% CVD death rate increase per 1 mg/dL per year drop in cholesterol levels). Under age 50 years these data suggest that having a very low cholesterol level improves longevity. After age 50 years the association of mortality with cholesterol values is confounded by people whose cholesterol levels are falling--perhaps due to diseases predisposing to death.


At the end they state that low levels of serum cholesterol can be due to diseases predisposing to death. This was invented by Carlos Iribarren. But his theory is crazy, he states that you can have low cholesterol levels due to cancer, hepatitis,... 10 years before you are diagnosed. The researchers of the 2001 Honolulu study and the Framingham study state that this idea is wrong.
Why would cholesterol be bad before the age of 50 and good after the age of 50, total irrational.

BACKGROUND: The impact of total serum cholesterol as a risk factor for cardiovascular disease decreases with age, which casts doubt on the necessity for cholesterol-lowering therapy in the elderly. We assessed the influence of total cholesterol concentrations on specific and all-cause mortality in people aged 85 years and over. METHODS: In 724 participants (median age 89 years), total cholesterol concentrations were measured and mortality risks calculated over 10 years of follow-up. Three categories of total cholesterol concentrations were defined: < 5.0 mmol/L, 5.0-6.4 mmol/L, and > or = 6.5 mmol/L. In a subgroup of 137 participants, total cholesterol was measured again after 5 years of follow-up. Mortality risks for the three categories of total cholesterol concentrations were estimated with a Cox proportional-hazards model, adjusted for age, sex, and cardiovascular risk factors. The primary causes of death were coded according to the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-9). FINDINGS: During 10 years of follow-up from Dec 1, 1986, to Oct 1, 1996, a total of 642 participants died. Each 1 mmol/L increase in total cholesterol corresponded to a 15% decrease in mortality (risk ratio 0.85 [95% CI 0.79-0.91]). This risk estimate was similar in the subgroup of participants who had stable cholesterol concentrations over a 5-year period. The main cause of death was cardiovascular disease with a similar mortality risk in the three total cholesterol categories. Mortality from cancer and infection was significantly lower among the participants in the highest total cholesterol category than in the other categories, which largely explained the lower all-cause mortality in this category. INTERPRETATION: In people older than 85 years, high total cholesterol concentrations are associated with longevity owing to lower mortality from cancer and infection. The effects of cholesterol-lowering therapy have yet to be assessed.


BACKGROUND--With increased efforts to lower serum cholesterol levels, it is important to quantify associations between serum cholesterol level and causes of death other than coronary heart disease, for which an etiologic relationship has been established. METHODS--For an average of 12 years, 350,977 men aged 35 to 57 years who had been screened for the Multiple Risk Factor Intervention Trial were followed up following a single standardized measurement of serum cholesterol level and other coronary heart disease risk factors; 21,499 deaths were identified. RESULTS--A strong, positive, graded relationship was evident between serum cholesterol level measured at initial screening and death from coronary heart disease. This relationship persisted over the 12-year follow-up period. No association was noted between serum cholesterol level and stroke. The absence of an association overall was due to different relationships of serum cholesterol level with intracranial hemorrhage and nonhemorrhagic stroke. For the latter, a positive, graded association with serum cholesterol level was evident. For intracranial hemorrhage, cholesterol levels less than 4.14 mmol/L (less than 160 mg/dL) were associated with a twofold increase in risk. A serum cholesterol level less than 4.14 mmol/L (less than 160 mg/dL) was also associated with a significantly increased risk of death from cancer of the liver and pancreas; digestive diseases, particularly hepatic cirrhosis; suicide; and alcohol dependence syndrome. In addition, significant inverse graded associations were found between serum cholesterol level and cancers of the lung, lymphatic, and hematopoietic systems, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. No significant associations were found of serum cholesterol level with death from colon cancer, with accidental deaths, or with homicides. Overall, the inverse association between serum cholesterol level and most cancers weakened with increasing follow-up but did not disappear. The association between cholesterol level and death due to cancer of the lung and liver, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, cirrhosis, and suicide weakened little over follow-up. CONCLUSIONS--The association of serum cholesterol with specific causes of death varies in direction, strength, gradation, and persistence. Further research on the determinants of low serum cholesterol level in populations and long-term follow-up of participants in clinical trials are necessary to assess whether inverse associations with noncardiovascular disease causes of death are consequences of noncardiovascular disease, whether serum cholesterol level and noncardiovascular disease are both consequences of other factors, or whether these associations are causal.


OBJECTIVES--To determine whether elevated serum cholesterol level is associated with all-cause mortality, mortality from coronary heart disease, or hospitalization for acute myocardial infarction and unstable angina in persons older than 70 years. Also, to evaluate the association between low levels of high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL-C) and elevated ratio of serum cholesterol to HDL-C with these outcomes. DESIGN--Prospective, community-based cohort study with yearly interviews. PARTICIPANTS--A total of 997 subjects who were interviewed in 1988 as part of the New Haven, Conn, cohort of the Established Population for the Epidemiologic Study of the Elderly (EPESE) and consented to have blood drawn. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES--The risk factor-adjusted odds ratios of the 4-year incidence of all-cause mortality, mortality from coronary heart disease, and hospitalization for myocardial infarction or unstable angina were calculated for the following: subjects with total serum cholesterol levels greater than or equal to 6.20 mmol/L (> or = 240 mg/dL) compared with subjects with cholesterol levels less than 5.20 mmol/L (< 200 mg/dL); subjects in the lowest tertile of HDL-C level compared with those in the highest tertile; and subjects in the highest tertile of the ratio of total serum cholesterol to HDL-C level compared with those in the lowest tertile. RESULTS--Elevated total serum cholesterol level, low HDL-C, and high total serum cholesterol to HDL-C ratio were not associated with a significantly higher rate of all-cause mortality, coronary heart disease mortality, or hospitalization for myocardial infarction or unstable angina after adjustment for cardiovascular risk factors. The risk factor-adjusted odds ratio for all-cause mortality was 0.99 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.56 to 2.69) for the group who had cholesterol levels greater than or equal to 6.20 mmol/L (> or = 240 mg/dL) compared with the group that had levels less than 5.20 mmol/L (< 200 mg/dL); 1.00 (95% CI, 0.59 to 1.70) for the group in the lowest tertile of HDL-C compared with those in the highest tertile; and 1.03 (95% CK, 0.62 to 1.71) for subjects in the highest tertile of the ratio of total serum cholesterol to HDL-C compared with those in the lowest tertile. CONCLUSIONS--Our findings do not support the hypothesis that hypercholesterolemia or low HDL-C are important risk factors for all-cause mortality, coronary heart disease mortality, or hospitalization for myocardial infarction or unstable angina in this cohort of persons older than 70 years.


A study from France publicized in 1989 in The Lancet looked at the cholesterol levels and the death rate in 92 old woman’s showed: the lowest death risk were woman’s with a mean cholesterol level of 7,0 milimol per liter, the highest death rate was in woman’s who had a mean cholesterol level of 4,0 milimols per liter. Woman’s with a mean cholesterol level of 7,0 had a 5,2 times lower risk of dying than woman’s with a mean cholesterol level of 4,0.

The Russians have the far last lowest cholesterol level and the highest numbers of deaths caused by cardiovascular diseases. The Swiss have the highest cholesterol levels and the far last number of deaths from cardiovascular diseases. The immigrants from Pakistan, Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh have in comparison with surrounding non-Asian population a lower total cholesterol, a lower LDL, lower blood pressure, less obesity and they smoked less and guess what, they had a higher risk on cardiovascular diseases. The Aboriginals have low cholesterol levels and high prevalence of cardiovascular diseases. The Inuit eat lots of fat and cholesterol and have low levels of cardiovascular diseases.

People in France eat lots of saturated fats (more than 15% of total calories) and have very low levels of deaths on cardiovascular diseases (French paradox). But the French are not the only ones. The same is true for the Swiss, Dutch, Belgium’s, Icelanders, Ostriches and Fins. The Georgians, Azerbaijanis and Ukrainians eat the lowest amounts of saturated fats and have high levels of cardiovascular diseases.

These are only some examples of reasons why the cholesterol hypothesis must be wrong.

Edited by s123, 14 February 2008 - 09:59 PM.


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Posted 15 February 2008 - 04:30 AM

I read a study once that said 2 + 2 = 50.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 04:47 AM

also, in a study involving 500,000 japanese, exposure to nuclear radiation has been shown to reduce the risk of cancer. yet another study shows that the force of gravity is lower on bird feathers.

Edited by Fear&Obey, 15 February 2008 - 04:52 AM.


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Posted 15 February 2008 - 05:05 AM

also, in a study involving 500,000 japanese, exposure to nuclear radiation has been shown to reduce the risk of cancer. yet another study shows that the force of gravity is lower on bird feathers.

I don't know about gravity and bird feathers, but google "radiation hormesis". You might be in for a surprise.

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Posted 15 February 2008 - 06:10 AM

Radiation is used as a cancer treatment and all so maybe that was a poor choice for sarcasm. I just find studies annoying sometimes, when people just look at the random carefully manipulated/worded results from studies without any theory at all to the actual physical process behind things. All my oppinions are just based on what I cook up in my own head as opposed to actually knowing what I'm talking about. It's not all that big of a problem with biology really. Psychologists on the other hand, I bet nearly everything they go on is just studies.

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 01:19 AM

I guess what i'm saying is studies on large populations of people, all with their own particular traits, can only come up with general conclusions. There's always going to be exceptions to the rules. It's all just paints the big vague picture people wrongly take as set in stone. Till some news story says everything everyone ever thought was completely wrong cuz some inuit can eat a diet that would kill most people.

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 07:32 PM

Don't Inuit only have a life expectancy of around 67 years?

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Posted 16 February 2008 - 08:41 PM

Don't Inuit only have a life expectancy of around 67 years?



Yes: http://www.shortnews...rt.cfm?id=67888

The farther north they live, the shorter their life. Maybe a Vit D connection?

Edited by shuffleup, 16 February 2008 - 08:44 PM.





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