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[sUper GeNius]

http://relentlessimp...ti-basics-3.htm

Any other suggestions? AOR Core has 200mg NAC. ;(

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 20 February 2008 - 05:48 AM.

[Brainbox]

Negative about this product would be the picolinate form of chromium. The exact reason I do not take the other AOR multi product.
Or are there new insights about chromium picolinate? I'm aware of the AOR position they had about half a year ago already.

[health_nutty]

Yeah, its a solid multi.

[sUper GeNius]

Anyone think the nearly 10,000 IU of beta-carotene to be a little high? Don't want to look like a carrot. Also, is the beta carotene in the proper ratio to the other carotenoids?

[Matt]

I'm getting 60,000IU of beta carotene a day lol

[nameless]

Anyone think the nearly 10,000 IU of beta-carotene to be a little high? Don't want to look like a carrot. Also, is the beta carotene in the proper ratio to the other carotenoids?

Yeah, I think its a bit high. I would prefer 3500-5000 IU, so I take just one capsule (sometimes two) of this multi daily. Overall, it's a little higher than I'd like for several things anyway, so 1-2 pills daily sort of comes out to around the RDA levels. I take a separate zinc/copper supplement, since its low on zinc at this dosage.

And I'm not sure about the chromium picolinate issue -- hope at this dosage level it'd be pretty safe.

[health_nutty]

I'm getting 60,000IU of beta carotene a day lol

From veggies no doubt?

[woly]

Negative about this product would be the picolinate form of chromium. The exact reason I do not take the other AOR multi product.
Or are there new insights about chromium picolinate? I'm aware of the AOR position they had about half a year ago already.

i just saw this, you might be interested in it.

Toxicol In Vitro. 2007 Dec 25 [Epub ahead of print]

Chromium picolinate does not produce chromosome damage.

Komorowski JR, Greenberg D, Juturu V.

Research and Development, Nutrition 21 Inc, 4 Manhattanville Road,
Purchase, NY 10577, United States.

Chromium picolinate (CrPic) is used as a dietary supplement and has
beneficial effects in reducing diabetes risk factors. The present
study evaluated the cytogenetic effects of CrPic in bone marrow cells
of Sprague-Dawley rats (5 animals/sex/group). Test animals were dosed
orally with 33, 250 or 2000mg/kg of CrPic, which corresponded to doses
of 4.1, 30.8 and 246mg/kg of chromium. The lowest dose of CrPic, 33mg/
kg is estimated to be the human equivalent for a 50kg person (200mcg
Cr). The animals were dosed once, and sacrificed either 18 or 42hours
(h) later. The mitotic index was determined for each rat. Metaphase
cells (50 or 100/rats) were examined for interstitial deletions,
chromatid and chromosome gap, breaks or other anomalies. The average
percentage of damaged cells at 18h in vehicle treated males and
females were 1.2% and 0.6%, respectively. The mean values at 18h for
doses of 33, 250 and 2000mg/kg, were 0.4%, 0.8%, 0.4% for males and
0.6%, 0.2% and 0.6% for females, respectively. At 42h, the mean values
for vehicle treated males and females were 0.4% and 0.2%,
respectively. For doses of 33, 250 and 2000mg/kg at 42h the average
percent damage was 14%, 0.8% and 0.4% for males and 0.2%, 0.2% and
0.0% for females, respectively. None of these values were
statistically increased compared to the vehicle controls. The positive
control Cyclophosphamide (CPM) induced a significant increase in
chromosomal damage at 18h averaging 30% in males and 37% in females,
respectively (p<0.001). In the current study CrPic did not induce
chromosomal damage in bone marrow cells at single doses of 33, 250 and
2000mg/kg of body weight and thus there was no indication of any
toxicity of CrPic.

PMID: 18261879 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

[ageless]

Multi-Basics 3 is a great multi, second best imo... of course next to my fav. the new version of Ortho Core. 200mg NAC is a perfect dose and likely to have some benefits without any trouble I believe. Actually I just take one capsule with each 3 major meals of the day so I am only getting 100mg NAC. Sometimes I'll add another capsule here or there.