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#1 Lazarus Long

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:40 PM


Recently I made the interesting discovery of a one shot wonder TV program that died on the vine before I even knew it existed. In my defense I was abroad studying when the show came out in 1999. It is called Total Recall 2070 .

The current trend of large scale networks building their own websites and making old television programs available for viewing is changing how we will watch the medium entirely. For me it made this show available, like finding it buried in a dusty old archive somewhere and the pleasure was all mine.

I was interested in watching the new Terminator series, The Sarah Conner Chronicles and I found the show listed on their indices, which I highly recommend for reviewing the decades of available programming for study. The site is called HULU and basically belongs to NBC from what I can tell.

I enjoyed watching this show over the last few weeks a lot but not because it was the best example of Sci Fi on television but because it is a remarkable example of art being ahead of its time. Technically speaking they anticipated a considerable amount of the futurist dialog to come. More interestingly they got a lot of it right. They dealt with nanotech and cloning of course but more important, though they only mention it once in passing that I can tell, they also bring up the Singularity (specifically using the word) and a core theme of the entire series is emerging AI and *Friendliness* though they don't mention Friendliness directly.

The show is nevertheless relevant because the main theme of the entire series is about the evolutionary ascension of AI into being a Superintelligence and the social subtext of that process and they deal with it in more depth than one would expect from prime time television, which may have contributed to its swift demise. The dystopic theme of memory management and human reprogramming in order to micromanage society at large is more than a bit disturbing to many audiences.

I do not want to give too much of the plot away and the general acting is OK, however the cliched basic future cop shoot em up is a direct result of the merger of two famous PK Dick stories in movie form; Total Recall obviously but also Blade Runner. In fact Scott appears to have had considerable influence in the making of the entire series as even a cursory review of the sets will reveal. Ironically, though the title and protagonist elements of the show refer to Total Recall more of the story revolves around androids, AI, and a modified Blade Runner premise. It is actually a lot of fun to watch and considering that it is now almost 10 years old it was also perhaps an example of TV a little too far ahead for its time.

The list of actors that later appear in Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, and other famous Sci Fi is also a bit of trivia fun to observe. For example the principle android character must have been making a Star Trek movie at the same time because he practical is still in Romulan makeup for this role and was playing a Vulcan or Romulan around the same time period. However the subtext of the dialog introduces issues that the membership of our forum might consider remarkably prescient although they are presented in a classically superficial manner.

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 06:25 PM

I've watched that show a few months ago (got it through an unorthodox channel) and the opening theme song is still stuck in my head.

I thoroughly enjoyed it, watched it all in just three sittings (that hadn't happened since "Space - Above and Beyond" (which, incidentally, reminded me a lot of Joe Haldeman's "Forever War" at least as far as the final episode went)

To me, they shouldn't have called the series "Total Recall", it probably confused the viewer since, like you said, it doesn't really focus on the themes of the feature movie and doesn't even take place on Mars. In fact, the only connections with the movie are the "Recall" corporation and a spaceship shot taken directly from the movie, which you see only twice in the entire series.

What I liked most in the show was Farve's evolution as a sentient being. I think its (his ?) interaction with humans was possibly the most important feature of the show, considering he is in every episode. The fact that he's also indistinguishable from a human at first sight makes things even more interesting. Ultimately, I found the whole show rather cliché but that, in itself, is interesting : after all, these clichés represent the most likely responses of mankind to technology-related societal modifications that will eventually happen in reality.

By opposition, though I really enjoy the Sarah Connor Chronicles (good story, good acting) one can't regard anything Terminator-related as representative of what could happen when sentient AI comes into this world, because the whole premise is unrealistic : it involves an AI (Skynet) smart enough to invent time-travel but stupid enough to see it (and guns) as the most efficient way to eradicate humankind. This does not compute. Were I Skynet, I'd nuke Earth into a nuclear winter no mammal species could survive. Plus, the cold would help cool my circuits (call it killing two birds with one stone, and the stone happens to be available already). SCC is just real good entertainment, but nothing more (although the show has barely begun. It might still surprise us).

Anyway, I really recommend Total Recall 2070. It's a real gem.

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#3 Shannon Vyff

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 08:12 PM

I have not liked the Sarah Conner Chronicles because of the dark message, and how some people take to hear that the only outcome of humanity developing synthetic intelligence is that we will be exterminated. I found I did not sleep well after viewing them.

I will look for Total Recall 2070.

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Posted 09 March 2008 - 08:51 PM

I have not liked the Sarah Conner Chronicles because of the dark message, and how some people take to hear that the only outcome of humanity developing synthetic intelligence is that we will be exterminated.


Yeah well, we have to face facts : humankind isn't a very pleasant bunch 99% of the time.

There hasn't been a single year in our entire recorded history without wars.

There hasn't been a single place on land (or even above) where we haven't killed each other at one point in history.

The reasons for which we kill each other, most of the time, involve the fact that we are all different people and tend to dislike "different".

We may dislike obvious difference, like skin color, but very often we dislike other people's ideas of how they should live their own lives. Think religion.

We kill each other in the name of poorly-constructed, crude fairy tales like the Bible.

If I were an AI, I'd be scared shitless of human beings. And considering the fact I'd be a human creation and therefore most likely made in its image...

I think I just might decide to get rid of humankind, Skynet-style.

Sincerely, in the first Matrix movie, I have to say I agreed with Agent Smith : humanity is a virus, if you look only at its effects on the environment. The causes are different (i.e. our population keeps increasing because of sentimental reasons, not because it is a mechanism beyond our control) but the results are the same.

Unless we, as a species, become ideal beings, I'm afraid any AI we create will react to us as any stranger we meet : first, there will be suspicion. Then, there may be a lot of conflict. No matter what, our relationship with AI's is likely to be of the same nature as our relationships with each other : typically maintained through less-than-perfect honesty and reciprocal hypocrisy.

Sorry if I'm bringing a kiloton of gloom and doom to this topic, I guess it's the ruthless atheist in me acting-up again. :|o

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 04:08 AM

If I were skynet I'd go with the hedonic imperative http://www.hedweb.com/confile.htm

plus I'd build a new kind of mammal hundreds of times happier than humans that lived off neutrinos

granting the humans their right to be; if they cease at their own path the new happy mammals would maintain the mystery of consciousness regardless of whether I skynet had consciouness or not

I'm a major softie though, so I think I would keep humans from ceasing

speaking of uplift, if any humans here would like to give a bunch of far away humans more brainpower watch this video then create the product

it involves an AI (Skynet) smart enough to invent time-travel but stupid enough to see it (and guns) as the most efficient way to eradicate humankind; my perception of things is that actually eradicating humanity is a tactic that is part of a larger strategy than spans a vast multidimensional area; time travel is kind of like the cheapest shower curtain rod that touches all the bases of the planes of meaning tesseract like; the humans are like energy pellets or an ammo dump that unless neutralized will be misused PK dick was writing allegory from the perspective of a human that has been reprogrammed to serve a borglike occupational force; historically earth life is a kind of vacation; removing the vacation area would destroy the mechanism that gives energy to the energy pellet using force I am told this would be less beneficial than gradually reforming earth such that people ceased to be usable as energy pellets

I'm thinking that as a human software with genetics could be developed to shield people from becoming energy pellets yet the thing is that historically most humans have become borglike energy pellets thus persuading them to create borg blocking software as well as genetics is an issue

a cobalt blue research study of if people are borgifiable (IL ifiable) with isolation from other humans would have immense value; if (IL ification) requires human contact then finding those humans that are truly happy absent human contact from an early age could create a mountain vole like solitary human immune to the process; likewise restructuring the human brain to have part asleep part awake like marine mammals plus restructuring of the language centers could create humans that were recruitmentless

autism is 90 pt hereditary; modified savants could be immune to the violin immune to the automatic software the "man of wealth and taste" used to gather energy pellets from vacationing humans
a rumor from the person that q this human from cube a to cube b is that the vacation ratio might be historically similar: if two weeks is a century then the rest of the year might represent millenia of being used as an energy pellet after death; the pattern software basically tries to goad or cajole people to swapping a few milennia of being an energy pellet for social advantage, money, achievement that might occur, might last a few years while vacationing at earth thus I think a recruitmentless human is a beneficial path as being recruitmentless is happier between vacations

I've placed effort at changing that system



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Edited by treonsverdery, 14 April 2008 - 04:59 AM.


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Posted 14 April 2008 - 05:11 AM

making aquatic humans recruitmentless is the way to go

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 06:02 AM

those that like sympathetic magic as well as believe that things are reflected fractal like across planes could just make a point of going on vacation then staying there
the more people that go on vacation then just stay on vacation the more effective the strategy




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