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"The Longevity Revolution" by Dr. Butler: WOW !


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#1 gavrilov

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 12:20 AM


Greetings,

I have just got a copy of this new book:

The Longevity Revolution: The Benefits and Challenges of Living a Long Life
by Dr. Robert N. Butler, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/yocmfd

Amazingly, this book seems to be rather tolerant to the idea of radical life extension.

For example, here are some excerpts from pages 13 - 14:

"Indeed, some believe that humans can master their evolution. Among them is Aubrey de Grey of Cambridge University, who suggests a life expectancy of five thousand years by 2100 [17]. The philosopher John Harris of Oxford views extraordinary longevity from another perspective when he considers the possibility of immortality and its consequences for mankind [18]."

No attempts to ridicule, or even to challenge these statements are made further in the book, as one may expect. It looks like a shift towards more tolerance to ideas of radical life extension, or even immortality.

Has anybody else here saw this book to comment?

Thanks!


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#2 gavrilov

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 12:49 AM

Dear All:

Just finished the first reading of this new book "The Longevity Revolution" by Dr. Butler ( http://tinyurl.com/yocmfd ). The final pages of this book contain the following bold statement:

"Enthusiasts over the future of cell, tissue, and organ replacement imagine successive, comprehensive reconstitutions of the body. Replacement or regenerative medicine would push death back, presumably indefinitely."
"One must not doubt the possibility of the unexpected in science and the uneven evolution of knowledge."

Sounds like the current position of Dr. Butler is now more compatible with Aubrey ideas

For more quotes and discussion of this book, please see: http://tinyurl.com/2no5je

Best wishes,

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 01:54 AM

For more quotes and discussion of this book, please see: http://tinyurl.com/2no5je

Hi Dr. Gavrilov,

Thanks for bringing this book to our attention.

I agree, it sounds like Dr. Butler is shifting his position for the better. It's good to see someone of his stature (and age) willing to change with the times.

I have not yet read the book, but a couple of quotes at your website caught my eye:

"It is sheer foolishness to imagine that we can extend life ... without substantial governmental participation"

"Some members of Congress, for example, worrying about costs of increasing numbers of older persons, fear and oppose success of life extension research."

These concerns, and many others, are good reasons to support organizations like The Coalition to Extend Life . Tom Mooney (director of CEL) was interviewed recently by Mind for the Immortality Update . In the interview, Tom briefly addressed some questions relative to these issues. For anyone that missed the interview it is availabe as a "Past Clip" at the Immortality Update site. Tom is working very hard to help educate the lawmakers of the United States.

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Posted 18 March 2008 - 02:36 AM

On the topic of "the meme", I was listening to a radio program today where the guest casually stated that "eighty is the new sixty" and "sixty is the new forty". I had never heard it stated with that large a gap, although I've heard fifty is the new forty a lot. Later in the day, I was reading an op-ed piece about questions to ask the presidential candidates in the upcoming science forum at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia, and one of them mentioned that advances in medical science would result in lifespans of 120 years, along with some question that I don't remember. I just found it interesting to see both of these in mainstream media, without repudiation or giggles.

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 02:08 AM

Greetings,

I am pleased to update that our review of this book has been just published here:

The New England Journal of Medicine, 2008, 358(20): 2187-2188.

http://content.nejm....ull/358/20/2187

Hope it helps.



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#6 JohnDoe1234

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Posted 19 May 2008 - 04:29 AM

Oh wow, this is some pretty good news. Thanks for bringing this up.

#7 gavrilov

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Posted 20 May 2008 - 06:37 PM

Oh wow, this is some pretty good news. Thanks for bringing this up.


You are welcome!

I wonder whether someone here could please help to bring this story to the science reporters and media, to get the word out?

Here are some excerpts from this new publication:

"This book about the ongoing revolution in human longevity and its implications for society was written by Robert Butler, a professor of geriatrics who is still working at the age of 80. The book is unique in that Butler not only describes the medical and social problems that can be anticipated in the United States when baby boomers reach retirement age but also suggests bold and radical solutions for these upcoming problems. Butler was the founding director of the National Institute on Aging of the National Institutes of Health from 1976 to 1982, and given his impressive background, his extraordinary plan of action should be considered very seriously.

The main premise of the book is that the anticipated catastrophic increases in rates of disability and the cost of health care among older people could be avoided if the United States committed itself to a large-scale scientific project akin to NASA's Apollo program of flights to the moon. Butler states that his proposed program "could be dubbed the Apollo Program for Aging and Longevity Science" and goes on to explain that "the present level of development of aging and longevity research justifies an Apollo-type effort to control aging. . . . Now we have both past work as a foundation and new scientific tools offering hope that we may soon have a more prolonged, vigorous and productive life and added longevity. During the twenty-first century, the century of the life sciences, longevity science should truly come of age." Butler believes that "it may soon be possible to delay both aging and age-related disease in humans" but that "an orbital jump in financing of science is required to advance longevity and health as well as national wealth."

Today, less than 1% of the entire federal budget is spent on medical research. Butler proposes that to improve health and control costs, 3% of the federal government's annual spending on health care should be made available to the National Institutes of Health for medical research. He also proposes that of Medicare expenditures, 1% should be earmarked for the National Institute on Aging. This investment should increase in line with the Medicare budget, but according to Butler, scientific research could lower Medicare expenditures. Butler concludes that "while the numbers I am suggesting may seem extraordinary, I believe the level of scientific progress in the field since the 1950s justifies such a program. . . ."

As a former director of the National Institute on Aging, Butler understands well where the main wasting of scientific potential currently takes place. As many as 80 to 85% of all research proposals that are peer reviewed and approved (scored) by the National Institutes of Health cannot be funded. This is a tremendous loss of intellectual potential and research opportunities. With his suggested increase in funding, Butler believes that "at least 30 percent of approved grants (if not more) should be funded." In short, to meet the challenges of the aging population, we need a scientific revolution in the science and medicine of longevity. Butler writes, "Science will find new ways to extend life and its quality. Evidence suggests that morbidity can be further compressed, and society can adapt to the growing numbers of older persons." ...

This book has the potential to change the future of this country for the better if its ideas reach members of Congress and other representatives of the U.S. government."

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The New England Journal of Medicine, 2008, 358(20): 2187-2188
http://content.nejm....ort/358/20/2187

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 03:35 AM

I hadnt seen this post. Last year though I was donating a copy of Ending Aging to my local library, and I saw that the Longevity Revolution was featured on their "new books" table.

So I skimmed through it, read the table of contents, read some of the beefy parts looking to see what angle the book would take. I looked through the index for things like Aubrey, sens, imminst, cel, longevity meme, etc.. I wasnt expecting to see imminst, but I was more than half expecting to see Aubrey. I saw the line that Gavrilov quotes here, but that was it. It is as follows:

"Indeed, some believe that humans can master their evolution. Among them is Aubrey de Grey of Cambridge University, who suggests a life expectancy of five thousand years by 2100 [17]. The philosopher John Harris of Oxford views extraordinary longevity from another perspective when he considers the possibility of immortality and its consequences for mankind [18]."

Now thats not a bad thing really, but from what I remember, in going through the contents, reading the themes, it seemed to be all about the compression of morbitiy.

Does anybody else have a review of this book? Maybe it was more promising than I thought. Compression of morbity is great and all, but thats not what we are after, and I dont want to support a book that might give people the wrong impression, but if it is more of a pros and cons, objective view of compression of morbity, and indefinite life extension, then that is exactly what I was hoping it would be, and that would make the book a fantastic tool.

Right now Im reading Kennedys, Strategies of Peace, and studying Ending Aging but maybe Ill have to put Longevity Revolution on my list too.




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