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I don't want to die dammit!


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#31 brokenportal

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 03:27 AM

Heh, I felt like I was reading my mind when I read this topic. Rather than reading words it was as though I was just thinking.

To anybody interested, I have an life extension projects idea in my blog I could use some discourse on. Please do join me in tossing the ideas around in there.

#32 forever freedom

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 03:54 AM

This 20 y.o. must have been on some risky medications or drugs??


Anyways, what pisses me off the most about death is that i had such a bad luck to be born in a time where we didn't conquer it yet. If you think about it, the human civilization is still in its very beggining. Hell, we still believe in a god based on some ancient books written by some random people! But i don't want to make this post a rant against religion. Death and aging is what pisses me off the most.


I figure that if we're going to count every human-level and above intelligent being that will come to life throughout our civilization, all beings that were born until now must amount to much much less than 1% of the total. I'm not counting humans only but also future AIs, which i consider that will be as "conscious" or as "human" as any born human being. I wouldn't mind coming to life as an AI (considering that they will have the same rights as humans, which i believe it's a certain thing to happen eventually).

And consider that since it will be very cheap to make a new AI, imagine how many AIs we will create? I'm sure there will be billions and then trillions and then eventually trillions of trillions of AIs. As there may be a point where there will be also trillions of posthuman beings throughout the universe. And we... we were born in this damn stone age they call "advanced civilization". Advanced to what standarts we obviously have to ask. If we are lucky we can present the moment when we will take one huge step to becoming a decent civilization, which will be with the creation of SAIs. If we aren't lucky, we will have to turn ourselves into pieces of ice and hope that this damn stone age technology saves us. It's really unpleasant.




Now to some optimism, i constantly review my beliefs about our what's coming in our lifetime (2100, some optimism please) and i'm always thinking if i'm not just illusioning myself into believing that i was indeed lucky enough to be born in the verge of a major turn of our civilization, a turn that will actually give us really big chances of living indefinitely. I come to the conclusion after hearing/reading many people's opinions that no, it's not just an illusion and that the possibilities of a major leap happening are real. It's not just like christian people believing that the rapture will come in their lifetimes.

So i may be unlucky for being born in these ancient times or i may be very lucky because i'm being born and am going to live to presence this turn in our civilization, the turn that will make us have an unlimited lifespan. So i may become one of the oldest humans alive. And as millenia go by, if i survive long enough, i may indeed be one of the fewer and fewer "pre-singularity" or "pre-bioimmortality" humans. That would be nice. Maybe in the Guiness Book of year 1,759,000 a.C. i'll be there as the world's oldest being. And will become humanity's historic property (with all the perks to it, which i sincerely can't imagine what will be by then). So you guys better not survive until then or i may have to chop your head off. There can be only one.

#33 Shannon Vyff

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 04:22 AM

Sam988, if cryonics works there will be older people than anyone living now. Also, if anything is developed within your lifetime, there likely will be someone older who is more wealthy that has utilized it first.

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#34 forever freedom

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 04:46 AM

Sam988, if cryonics works there will be older people than anyone living now. Also, if anything is developed within your lifetime, there likely will be someone older who is more wealthy that has utilized it first.


Yea i'm aware of that. I don't care how many others people also survive, that was only a joke. As long as i survive too, it's fine. Also, i'm very sure that i'll be very wealthy too, i just need some time... And not being the oldest is actually good because i don't want the spotlights.. who knows there may be some phychos/luddites out there in the future that will really look for the most ancient people to kill. In all odds, becoming the oldest human after aging has been beaten would be just a matter of extreme luck anyways. Unfortunately i'm not very lucky.

#35 freethinker

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Posted 14 May 2008 - 11:52 AM

Some ideas to promote awareness:
- T-shirts with anti-aging logos
- Add a link to sens.org or imminst.org to your email signature file
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