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[John_Ventureville]

Hello everyone,

I admit to being in love with the American (or is it the whole world?) obsession with lists. I thought I would make up a list here of various *not too super-demanding and expensive* age management/anti-aging tips and compare it to the lists of others.

1 Get enough sleep (seven to eight hours regularly).
2 Cut out heavily processed foods that are full of refined sugar and flour (like fast food/junk food).
3 Eat lots of fruits and vegetables.
4 Exercise daily (especially aerobic exercise).
5 Take vitamin and nutritional supplements.
6 Have social networks and close friends to confide in for the sake of a rich private life and stress reduction.
7 Regularly attend immortalist and Transhumanist conferences & gatherings.
8 Do volunteering and try to help others where I can (sponsoring a third world child through a charitable organization would be an option).
9 Keep my brain sharp with crossword puzzles, cognitive enhancement computer games, school, learning new languages and musical instruments, etc.,.
10 Maintain cryonics agreement or get signed up.
11 Wear a vital signs monitor (built into watch, shirt, etc.) that informs the authorities should you deanimate.
12 Learn and practice yoga.
13 Learn and practice meditation.
14 Keep a gratitude journal.
15 Have pets that return affection (cat, dog, ferret, etc.).
16 Always use a seat belt and try to drive a car that is on the large side and has a very good crash safety record.
17 Don't smoke, drink in moderation.
18 Don't engage in promiscuous and unprotected sex.
19 Attend a church of some type (many here would probably go with Unitarian).
20 Join the Immortalist Institute as a lifetime member!
21 Get an annual medical check-up.
22 Restrict calorie intake (this could be to a moderate level, or a severe one).
23 Be happily married. And even have children (I could see this as both very positive and possibly very negative for longevity...)!
24 Take the basic work-up at the Kronos anti-aging medical clinic.
25 Visualize every day living long enough to make it to the age of indefinite lifespan.
26 Regularly use a self-hypnosis CD on longevity.
27 Have the right parents & get the right genes for extreme longevity. LOL
28 Be employed in work you find at least moderately satisfying.
29 Try to limit exposure to negative news and toxic people.
30 Let go of anger & grudges, be forgiving.
31 Have some greenery & plants in my home to help make a connection with nature.
32 Be well read.
33 Have a Bonsai tree and a very long lived pet turtle. Be sure to out-live them!

Well..., that is my fairly basic list of longevity tips. Please let me know what you think! What would yours be like?

John Grigg : )

[VictorBjoerk]

Longevity tips

1.Keep a BMI in the range of 16-19
2.Limit your calorie intake to not more than necessary,(if you are obsessed you may go to a minimum level)
3.Eat a diet naturally rich in antioxidants
4.Supplement with antioxidants that has been proven to have some kind of longevity effect like quercetin,resveratrol(get your betacarotene from food sources)
5.Sleep as long as necessary,not less not more,if you are very fit your sleeping time should decrease slightly.
6.Exercise moderately or just do leisure activities like swimming,cycling,walking
7.Donate to Methuselah mouse prize
8.run clients like folding@home
9.get regular checkups at a hospital once a week
10.If your body should start doing evil things to itself,join cryonics
11.Never expose yourself to stress
12.Get rich so you can have the opportunity to live a lifestyle good for longevity.as well as pay for cryonics and nutritional supplements.Among other benefits it can also reduce stress levels.
13.Don't smoke and only drink on rare occasions
14.Get friends that have similar lifestyles as yourself so you can inspirate each other
15.Get friends that have unhealthy lifestyles so you can keep yourself aware that your lifestyle really makes difference.This may motivate you.
16.Get a job in the field of antiaging science or something similar.
17.Join imminst.org/forums

18.And finally,this topic should be moved to my thread named "how do I take action against aging/what can I do" I think the discussion may continue better there since it seems to involve much more than health tips.

[porthose]

No 1. anti ageing tip?

Plenty of sex.

[John_Ventureville]

shonghow wrote:
10.If your body should start doing evil things to itself,join cryonics
11.Never expose yourself to stress
>>>

I really liked your list, but I have concerns regarding these two items. First, it is a good idea to be signed up for cryonics (or at least have your life insurance coverage in place) BEFORE your body starts doing evil things to itself! Just try getting affordable (or any!) life insurance when your body is *already* seriously malfunctioning... You *do not* want to be in this situation!

Second, I love the sentiment of "never expose yourself to stress," but I just don't see it as even remotely realistic.


porthose wrote:
No 1. anti ageing tip?
Plenty of sex.
>>>

I would tend to agree, especially if it is with a longterm partner where there is strong emotional attachment.

John Grigg

[VictorBjoerk]

Yes when thinking about it is pretty much impossible to avoid negative stress.

[Heliotrope]

keep the lists coming, things we can easily implement in our lives . if we do most of the things on the list, it'd add years to life spans

[wayside]

9.get regular checkups at a hospital once a week

Once a week???

IMO, hospitals are places to avoid if you want to live a long time, unless you are seriously ill or seriously injured.

[Heliotrope]

9.get regular checkups at a hospital once a week

Once a week???

IMO, hospitals are places to avoid if you want to live a long time, unless you are seriously ill or seriously injured.

unlikely to cause major infectious /communicative disease if that's what you're worried. many hospitals maintain very high standardized, sterilized environment, but dont go off touching every wall corner and handsake every patient

Once a wk is too much and out of the financial budgets of ppl unless they can afford it or work there or something , once every few months to 1 year

Edited by HYP86, 07 May 2008 - 05:15 PM.

[wayside]

unlikely to cause major infectious /communicative disease if that's what you're worried. many hospitals maintain very high standardized, sterilized environment, but dont go off touching every wall corner and handsake every patient

MRSA Rates Much Higher Than Thought

There don't seem to be a lot of numbers on non-patient infection rates, but why even put yourself in that environment if you can avoid it.

[Heliotrope]

unlikely to cause major infectious /communicative disease if that's what you're worried. many hospitals maintain very high standardized, sterilized environment, but dont go off touching every wall corner and handsake every patient

MRSA Rates Much Higher Than Thought

There don't seem to be a lot of numbers on non-patient infection rates, but why even put yourself in that environment if you can avoid it.

definitely, one should avoid the diseases. within the near future, we may just build a nice home health station to check up. They're working on bathroom mirrors that will tell us our temp, blood pressure , and other stats while standing in front of it brushing teeth. it'll be like health checkups everyday, with longevity tips and immortality news scrolling across the mirror. i'd like a "magic mirror " like that, mirror mirror on the wall

Edited by HYP86, 08 May 2008 - 10:11 PM.

[VictorBjoerk]

Yes why not once a week.Drawing blood tests and so.I am not thinking about the average person which may want 3 times a year or so.The more regular your check-ups are the less diseases may be left undetected and proceed in silence.How many people could you e.g save from breast cancer if they had mammography once a week?

[VictorBjoerk]

But of course it depends on how obsessed you want to be.When compared to most people the people here are already obsessed with immortality and life extension.

[wayside]

Yes why not once a week.Drawing blood tests and so.I am not thinking about the average person which may want 3 times a year or so.The more regular your check-ups are the less diseases may be left undetected and proceed in silence.How many people could you e.g save from breast cancer if they had mammography once a week?

Mammography once a week is not a good example. If women actually did this (and my understanding is that it is fairly painful, they'd be unwilling to do it every week) within a few years they'd all have breast cancer from the radiation.

I would imagine drawing blood is not risk-free either. Any time you puncture the skin there is a risk of infection. And the scarring in your veins from that many punctures might lead to problems as well.

I see where you are trying to go with this, and don't disagree that more testing may be beneficial, but you have to be mindful of the testing risks as well.

[VictorBjoerk]

Well the risk of infections should be exceptionally low.Regarding mammography,x-rays etc may be considered a health risk if done once a week but drawing blood should be fine.

[Shepard]

Once a week testing is the kind of obsessive behavior that leads to Crazyville.

[VictorBjoerk]

Yes,But Cr is considered as a obsessive behaviour by most people.

[freethinker]

1) Keep an eye out for natural and man-made disasters. Don't live in risky areas and get involved to prevent disasters.

http://en.wikipedia....uture_disasters
http://en.wikipedia....nd_planet_Earth

David

[John_Ventureville]

I would add to my list...

34. Fasting one day out of the week.


John Grigg

[forever freedom]

Don't start nasty discussions with other drivers.

Buy a car with as many airbags as your money can buy.




The last sentence got me thinking. Is it real that travelling in airplanes is safer than traveling in cars? I'll explain. They use statistics to measure "risk", but inside these statistics are crazy, drunk, drugged, careless, or sleepy drivers. Some have many of these factors combined. Now the question is: does someone who drives very safe has more or less of a chance of dying while using the car instead of the airplane? The horrible thing about airplanes is that you can't do anything (other than having a private jet with parachutes) to avoid statistics: if statistics say 1 in a million dies, then that are your odds of becoming ham when flying (and one more thing: someone in an airplane crash has nearly 0 chances of having his body ryonically suspended, while in a car accident death, if your head is still intact, your odds are much better of being "rescued" by alcor).

[Mind]

1. Balanced Diet
2. Aerobic and resistance exercise.
3. CR or intermittent fasting.
4. 8 hours of sleep per night.
5. Do things that make you happy.

[Matt]

Quite a big list, so wont add much other than to say

Eliminate infections. Most hidden infections tend to be dental related which can have a big effect on your immune system and body.

and avoid cipro lol.

Edited by Matt, 25 May 2008 - 01:52 PM.

[VictorBjoerk]

Does anybody know anything about the supposed longevity benefits from SSRI experienced in lab animals?

[freethinker]

1. Eat a Paleolithic diet.
http://en.wikipedia....aleolithic_diet

2. Wear glasses that block blue light in the hours before bedtime and make your bedroom/bathroom as dark as possible at night so as to limit your light exposure.

Light dependence

Production of melatonin by the pineal gland is inhibited by light and permitted by darkness. For this reason melatonin has been called "the hormone of darkness" and its onset each evening is called the Dim-Light Melatonin Onset (DLMO). Secretion of melatonin as well as its level in the blood, peaks in the middle of the night, and gradually falls during the second half of the night, with normal variations in timing according to an individual's chronotype.

Until recent history, humans in temperate climates were exposed to only about six hours of daylight in the winter. In the modern world, artificial lighting reduces darkness exposure to typically eight or fewer hours per day all year round. Even low light levels inhibit melatonin production to some extent, but over-illumination can create significant reduction in melatonin production. Since it is principally blue light that suppresses melatonin,[25] wearing glasses that block blue light[26] in the hours before bedtime may avoid melatonin loss. Use of blue-blocking goggles the last hours before bedtime has also been advised for people who need to adjust to an earlier bedtime, as melatonin promotes sleepiness.

Melatonin levels at night are reduced to 50% by exposure to a low-level incandescent bulb for only 39 minutes, and it has been shown that women with the brightest bathrooms have an increased risk for breast cancer.[27]

Reduced melatonin production has been proposed as a likely factor in the significantly higher cancer rates in night workers,[28] and the effect of modern lighting practice on endogenous melatonin has been proposed as a contributory factor to the larger overall incidence of some cancers in the developed world.[29]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin

Edited by jean david, 29 May 2008 - 05:27 AM.

[freethinker]

Getting hit by an asteroid is not good for longevity...

End of civilization

An impact event is commonly seen as a scenario[11] [12] that would bring about the end of civilization. In 2000, Discover Magazine published a list of 20 possible sudden doomsday scenarios with impact event listed as the number one most likely to occur.[13] Until the 1980s this idea was not taken seriously, but all that changed after the discovery of the Chicxulub Crater which was further reinforced by witness to the Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 event. Since then there has been more interest from the scientific community and greater public awareness of the possibility of impact events.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Impact_event

Video: http://blog.ted.com/...hen_petrane.php

Edited by jean david, 29 May 2008 - 05:50 AM.

[woly]

2. Wear glasses that block blue light in the hours before bedtime and make your bedroom/bathroom as dark as possible at night so as to limit your light exposure.

Does anyone know of a site where i can buy these from?

[VictorBjoerk]

Chelation therapy,may be something to consider?

[freethinker]

http://www.scienceda...71112143308.htm
http://www.anysungla...ry_Code=Driving
http://www.addforums...hp/t-45410.html

A couple of links on blue-blocking glasses.

[Forever21]

1. Make A LOT of money
2. Give most of it to research
3. Everything else...

[Forever21]

also, very important...

BE KIND to others

[Brafarality]

Eating to a stupor weekly and lazing about in the fields afterwards like the peasants in Bruegel's vision of Cockaygne:



There is no better way. While some are exhilirated in their hunger and severe regimen, others are heavy-lidded and sound asleep, drowsed with the fumes of poppies, while their hooks spare the next swath and all its twined flowers.

But, this weekly gluttony must be counterbalanced with stretches of denial: where the gluttonous self and the abnegating self seem like different, alien beings, looking at each other with suspicion and, occasionally, gentle consternation and defiance.

Ah, cookies and muffins await.

Edited by paulthekind, 26 October 2008 - 10:20 AM.