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[Chemist]

Hi I was wondering if anyone could possibly help me find the study[ or studies] on piracetam related to increasing interhemispheric communication. I'm curious how they tested this and can't seem to find a full-text version of the article.

Thanks for your help.

[Chemist]

Lol, I guess the study doesn't exist.

[Zoroaster]

Lol, I guess the study doesn't exist.

I think most people decided not to respond because they figured you could find probably find a couple studies yourself in the time it took you to post your original question.

Here's one I found in literally less than one minute:

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1257371

Wikipedia also lists these two articles as sources for its assertion that Piracetam improves interhemispheral communication:

Giurgea, C. & Moyersoons, F., "The pharmacology of corticol evoked potentials" Arch Int Pharmacodyn Ther 199, (1972) pp.67-78.

Okuyama, S. & Aihara, H., "Actions of nootropic drugs on transcallosal response of rats", Neuropharmacol 27, (1988) pp.67-72.

That will give you something to start out with. Track those down on the internet or head over to the closest university library and you should be able to find what you're looking for.

[Chemist]

Lol, I guess the study doesn't exist.

I think most people decided not to respond because they figured you could find probably find a couple studies yourself in the time it took you to post your original question.

Here's one I found in literally less than one minute:

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1257371

Wikipedia also lists these two articles as sources for its assertion that Piracetam improves interhemispheral communication:

Giurgea, C. & Moyersoons, F., "The pharmacology of corticol evoked potentials" Arch Int Pharmacodyn Ther 199, (1972) pp.67-78.

Okuyama, S. & Aihara, H., "Actions of nootropic drugs on transcallosal response of rats", Neuropharmacol 27, (1988) pp.67-72.

That will give you something to start out with. Track those down on the internet or head over to the closest university library and you should be able to find what you're looking for.

Sigh.... FULL TEXT. Not all studies are created equal. There are plenty crackpot idiot researchers out there. Lol, I'm not having trouble finding the articles, i'm having trouble finding the full text versions. If an abstract says that a drug provides a positive effect I need to know how much. What kind of experimental procedure. How big a sample. etc

I bet most of the people on this forum just read abstracts and trust the results they're being given lol

Edited by Chemist, 18 June 2008 - 02:24 PM.

[Zoroaster]

Sigh.... FULL TEXT. Not all studies are created equal. There are plenty crackpot idiot researchers out there. Lol, I'm not having trouble finding the articles, i'm having trouble finding the full text versions. If an abstract says that a drug provides a positive effect I need to know how much. What kind of experimental procedure. How big a sample. etc

I bet most of the people on this forum just read abstracts and trust the results they're being given lol

If you want full text then like I said in my first response you'll have to go to a university library and look it up or you'll have to sign up for a membership with the particular journals you're interested in. That will cost you several hundred dollars a year. I can, and do, access the full text for most articles because I'm a student at a university, but I'm not about to scan them and send them to you or go on campus and copy the text into a word document just to make things more convenient for you.

In fact if you can find the full text online for free its much more likely to be associated with "Crack-pot idiot researchers". Meaning its probably a low-level or internet only journal. That's not always the case of course, but most good journals don't give their studies away for free.

And I'm not quite sure why you balk at the idea of using abstracts as a source of information. If the study is from a peer-reviewed journal then you can be at least reasonably assured that the conclusions stated in the abstract are consistent with the data in the full text since the abstract is also peer-reviewed. Many abstracts will actually contain the sample sizes and raw data and as such can give you a good feel for the extent of the effect demonstrated in the study.

Edited by Zoroaster, 18 June 2008 - 07:30 PM.

[NickCallaway]

Sigh.... FULL TEXT. Not all studies are created equal. There are plenty crackpot idiot researchers out there. Lol, I'm not having trouble finding the articles, i'm having trouble finding the full text versions. If an abstract says that a drug provides a positive effect I need to know how much. What kind of experimental procedure. How big a sample. etc

I bet most of the people on this forum just read abstracts and trust the results they're being given lol

If you want full text then like I said in my first response you'll have to go to a university library and look it up or you'll have to sign up for a membership with the particular journals you're interested in. That will cost you several hundred dollars a year. I can, and do, access the full text for most articles because I'm a student at a university, but I'm not about to scan them and send them to you or go on campus and copy the text into a word document just to make things more convenient for you.

In fact if you can find the full text online for free its much more likely to be associated with "Crack-pot idiot researchers". Meaning its probably a low-level or internet only journal. That's not always the case of course, but most good journals don't give their studies away for free.

And I'm not quite sure why you balk at the idea of using abstracts as a source of information. If the study is from a peer-reviewed journal then you can be at least reasonably assured that the conclusions stated in the abstract are consistent with the data in the full text since the abstract is also peer-reviewed. Many abstracts will actually contain the sample sizes and raw data and as such can give you a good feel for the extent of the effect demonstrated in the study.

lol. owned.