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[health_nutty]

Anyone tried high dose (> 12mg a day) astaxanthin? Anyone noticed the endurance effect that this guy did? I'm skeptical he is just trying to pimp some products...

http://www.naturalnews.com/023177.html

"Previously, I was only taking 2mg - 4mg per day. But for a while now, I've been taking 16mg per day (400% more than before), and I've discovered something truly astounding: The health benefits of this natural medicine keep increasing as the dose increases (to a limit, of course). I've found that 16mg a day is the ideal dosage for me to experience maximum benefits from this supplement... benefits that include outstanding athletic performance, a significant reduction in muscle soreness and joint pain, radical improvements in resistance to UV sun exposure, stabilized blood sugar and many more."

[wayside]

Anyone tried high dose (> 12mg a day) astaxanthin? Anyone noticed the endurance effect that this guy did? I'm skeptical he is just trying to pimp some products...

http://www.naturalnews.com/023177.html

I read this same article and decided to try it for a few months and see if I notice anything. It's not that expensive, around $43 for two months' worth. I got the NOW brand from iherb.com though, not what he was recommending.

It arrives tomorrow, so we'll see what happens.

[ortcloud]

I have been wondering about taking higher doses for years. I never tried it, but I am curious.

Who decided on the tiny recommended dose anyway ? Is it a price affordability issue ?

I think I will go for it, can anyone thik of a reason someone shouldnt ?

[Shepard]

I think Pete @ Relentless Improvement mentioned that he was taking 10mg+/day at one point in time. You might want to shoot him an e-mail.

[edward]

Anyone tried high dose (> 12mg a day) astaxanthin? Anyone noticed the endurance effect that this guy did? I'm skeptical he is just trying to pimp some products...

http://www.naturalnews.com/023177.html

"Previously, I was only taking 2mg - 4mg per day. But for a while now, I've been taking 16mg per day (400% more than before), and I've discovered something truly astounding: The health benefits of this natural medicine keep increasing as the dose increases (to a limit, of course). I've found that 16mg a day is the ideal dosage for me to experience maximum benefits from this supplement... benefits that include outstanding athletic performance, a significant reduction in muscle soreness and joint pain, radical improvements in resistance to UV sun exposure, stabilized blood sugar and many more."

That guy is getting paid, he is definitely pimping some products, just based on the way that article is written and his website. He has a serious interest in you buying stuff from the link in the article.

[ortcloud]

That guy is getting paid, he is definitely pimping some products, just based on the way that article is written and his website. He has a serious interest in you buying stuff from the link in the article.

Does anyone know this Mike Adams guy ?

[kenj]

What's up with high dose astaxanthin? Anyone? I have taken it consistently at 5mg for a few years. FWIW, perhaps it helps with recovering from aerobic exercises.

[boily]

I read the same article about a month ago. Sounded like it was worth a trial. I upped my dose from 4mg to 16mg a day. Been 3 weeks on that dose, haven't noticed anything specific. as yet. I've been taking one 4mg NOW brand astaxanthin a day for a few years prior.

[DukeNukem]

>>> Does anyone know this Mike Adams guy ?

As much as I like his overall message of good health through proper eating, he is definitely Mr. Sensationalism.

Here's his latest stunt, and you can read some of my YouTube comments under user name "1DukeNukem", where I left four comments.

Edited by DukeNukem, 23 June 2008 - 04:12 PM.

[luv2increase]

>>> Does anyone know this Mike Adams guy ?

As much as I like his overall message of good health through proper eating, he is definitely Mr. Sensationalism.

Here's his latest stunt, and you can read some of my YouTube comments under user name "1DukeNukem", where I left four comments.

This guy doesn't look healthy or fit in the least. I think that will hurt him more than his sensationalism. If you talk the talk, you have to walk the walk, and he doesn't have the image to back up his beliefs.

To me, he wouldn't be distinguishable from a clean-cut, homeless drunk.


edit: I just watched the entire think. I believe in all this guy says and believes in, but dukenukem is right; there are so many flaws with this proposed contest. It has nill validity whatsoever.

And what the heck was up with the ending of the video OMG, lol.


BTW, my astaxanthin should be here any time from two sources BAC and BioAstin. I will be taking 8mg with my last meal of the day. This is mainly for muscle building and joint support.

Edited by luv2increase, 23 June 2008 - 05:36 PM.

[health_nutty]

This guy doesn't look healthy or fit in the least. I think that will hurt him more than his sensationalism. If you talk the talk, you have to walk the walk, and he doesn't have the image to back up his beliefs.

To me, he wouldn't be distinguishable from a clean-cut, homeless drunk.

He looks trim and healthy to me.

[Shepard]

Yeah, he looks pretty skinny. What key pharmaceuticals is he talking about? Anyway, I see very little difference in the rhetoric of born-again "health nuts" and religious people.

[health_nutty]

Anyone have any updates?

[david ellis]

Just being whimsical, from the video I surmise that you don't turn pink at 16 mg/day. I wonder how many milligrams it takes to make a flamingo pink and why this stuff costs so much.

[wayside]

Anyone have any updates?

I haven't noticed much difference, although it has been less than two weeks so far.

[spacetime]

I've frequent several forums or various natures and there's always someone or sime shills always touting the benefits of astaxanthin especially in regards to anti-ox activity and endurance as they always pimp the BioAstin a superior to all others. I would assume the NOW brand to be sufficient as it's produced under cGMP guidlelines and it ultimately the same substance. But these guys always refute any such notions and claim BioAstin uses superior processing techniques to render the highest quality product without ever going into specifics. This is typically the hallmark of the fradulent and as a result puts me off toward this brand. A few people on these various forums have tried a high dose as prescribed and noticed little results after a few months of use.

[Shepard]

I've frequent several forums or various natures and there's always someone or sime shills always touting the benefits of astaxanthin especially in regards to anti-ox activity and endurance as they always pimp the BioAstin a superior to all others. I would assume the NOW brand to be sufficient as it's produced under cGMP guidlelines and it ultimately the same substance.

Might be worth reading:

http://www.imminst.o...&...st&p=204062

[health_nutty]

Anyone have any updates?

I haven't noticed much difference, although it has been less than two weeks so far.

Based on the research the endurance benefits increase gradually up to six months.

[DukeNukem]

>>> Now's Astaxanthin and BioAstin are one and the same.

I take the NOW brand, as I knew this fact, plus it's a lot cheaper. I take 2-3 a day.

[elwalvador]

It is a great antioxidant that crosses the blood-brain barrier, however I think that most of it passes through the digestive system without being absorbed into the blood stream. It noticably reddens my stools whenever I take it (4mg). Ofcourse, reddened stools don't prove whether it got into the blood stream or not, but I get the feeling that very little of it does.

[Ben]

It is a great antioxidant that crosses the blood-brain barrier, however I think that most of it passes through the digestive system without being absorbed into the blood stream. It noticably reddens my stools whenever I take it (4mg). Ofcourse, reddened stools don't prove whether it got into the blood stream or not, but I get the feeling that very little of it does.

You colour watch your stool?

[Shepard]

You colour watch your stool?

Go hang around some of the people that live in fear of the worms, parasites, and various stones inside them. I've seen more than one that shat in a strainer type thing and then rinse it to see what came out.

Edited by shepard, 29 July 2008 - 01:54 AM.

[elwalvador]

You colour watch your stool?

I look down when I flush and couldn't help notecing.

[niner]

You colour watch your stool?

Go hang around some of the people that live in fear of the worms, parasites, and various stones inside them. I've seen more than one that shat in a strainer type thing and then rinse it to see what came out.

I guess that would be the "cleanse" people... okee dokee... I do know someone who had a small intestinal bleed that went on for days. She got really sick and ultimately died from it. Someone involved in the case later said if she would have just looked at her poop, it would have been obvious. I don't think that glancing at the color of your stool is all that weird unless you do it in the morning, then pick a coordinating outfit.

[wayside]

Anyone have any updates?

I haven't noticed much difference, although it has been less than two weeks so far.

I still haven't noticed anything in particular in the way of results.

From http://www.naturalnews.com/023177.html:
"...outstanding athletic performance, a significant reduction in muscle soreness and joint pain, radical improvements in resistance to UV sun exposure..."

outstanding athletic performance - haven't noticed any out-of-the-ordinary gains in the weight-lifting or spinning I do

a significant reduction in muscle soreness and joint pain - nope, I got plenty of both; haven't noticed that my knuckles or knees are any less sore than they usually are

radical improvements in resistance to UV sun exposure - nope; granted I have always burned easily, but 15 minutes of midday sun is enough to redden my skin, which happened to me this weekend when I stupidly didn't put on sunscreen until halftime at my kid's soccer game

I will not continue the high dose after my supply runs out, although I am thinking of keeping 4 mg/day in my regular regimen.

[Jacovis]

Anyone have any updates?

I haven't noticed much difference, although it has been less than two weeks so far.

I still haven't noticed anything in particular in the way of results.

From http://www.naturalnews.com/023177.html:
"...outstanding athletic performance, a significant reduction in muscle soreness and joint pain, radical improvements in resistance to UV sun exposure..."

outstanding athletic performance - haven't noticed any out-of-the-ordinary gains in the weight-lifting or spinning I do

a significant reduction in muscle soreness and joint pain - nope, I got plenty of both; haven't noticed that my knuckles or knees are any less sore than they usually are

radical improvements in resistance to UV sun exposure - nope; granted I have always burned easily, but 15 minutes of midday sun is enough to redden my skin, which happened to me this weekend when I stupidly didn't put on sunscreen until halftime at my kid's soccer game

I will not continue the high dose after my supply runs out, although I am thinking of keeping 4 mg/day in my regular regimen.

You probably are already but make sure you take each and every mg of Astaxanthin with some fat to maximise absorption...

http://www.sciencedi...577dc65223f7b88

Oral bioavailability of the antioxidant astaxanthin in humans is enhanced by incorporation of lipid based formulations
Johanna Mercke Odeberg, a, Åke Lignell, b, Annette Pettersson, b and Peter Höglund, , a
a Department of Clinical Pharmacology, Lund University Hospital, S-221 85, Lund, Sweden
b AstaCarotene AB, Gustavsberg, Sweden
Received 15 November 2002; revised 11 April 2003; accepted 30 April 2003. ; Available online 19 July 2003.

Abstract
Astaxanthin is a carotenoid with antioxidant properties, synthesised by plants and algae, and distributed in marine seafood. Astaxanthin is also available as a food supplement, but, like other carotenoids, is a very lipophilic compound and has low oral bioavailability. However, bioavailability can be enhanced in the presence of fat. There is not much information in the literature about the pharmacokinetics of oral astaxanthin in humans. In this open parallel study, healthy male volunteers received a single dose of 40 mg astaxanthin, as lipid based formulations or as a commercially available food supplement, followed by blood sampling for further analysis of plasma concentrations. Pharmacokinetic parameters were calculated to evaluate the extent and rate of absorption from each formulation. The elimination half-life was 15.9±5.3 h (n=32), and showed a mono-phasic curve. Three lipid based formulations: long-chain triglyceride (palm oil) and polysorbate 80 (formulation A), glycerol mono- and dioleate and polysorbate 80 (formulation B), and glycerol mono- and dioleate, polysorbate 80 and sorbitan monooleate (formulation C), all showed enhanced bioavailability, ranging from 1.7 to 3.7 times that of the reference formulation. The highest bioavailability was observed with formulation B, containing a high content of the hydrophilic synthetic surfactant polysorbate 80.

Author Keywords: Astaxanthin; Pharmacokinetics; Lipid based formulations; Polysorbate 80; Bioavailability

[wayside]

You probably are already but make sure you take each and every mg of Astaxanthin with some fat to maximise absorption...

The astaxanthin gelcap I take also has 1/2 gm of oil in each gelcap. Plus I am generally taking several fish oil caps at the same time. Also, I have generally eaten within 1/2 hour of taking it.

[runner30]

Anyone tried high dose (> 12mg a day) astaxanthin? Anyone noticed the endurance effect that this guy did? I'm skeptical he is just trying to pimp some products...

http://www.naturalnews.com/023177.html

"Previously, I was only taking 2mg - 4mg per day. But for a while now, I've been taking 16mg per day (400% more than before), and I've discovered something truly astounding: The health benefits of this natural medicine keep increasing as the dose increases (to a limit, of course). I've found that 16mg a day is the ideal dosage for me to experience maximum benefits from this supplement... benefits that include outstanding athletic performance, a significant reduction in muscle soreness and joint pain, radical improvements in resistance to UV sun exposure, stabilized blood sugar and many more."

I have been taking 16MG bioastin astaxanthin for a few months now. I have totally noticed an effect from it. not so much endurance but muscle recovery. I can run for a longer period without the soreness i would normally have. I checked out that link and it does sound like he has some sort of benefit even though he says he doesnt.

This product does NOT color your poop. the guy that posted that comment either doesnt really take it or has other serious health issues. I take it and my husband has been taking it for almost a year and have NEVER had pink colored poop. LOL We also take spirulina (green algae). so technically i should be having pink and green poop right!! ha ha ha

I have read of the NOW brand by iherbs but prefer the real stuff not a relabeled brand. iherbs also offers its customers a kickback if they refer people back which i think is peculiar. (talk about pimping!)

where are you getting your bioastin? i usually get it from ebay, the price there seems to be reasonable.
I found a really good free pdf on astaxanthin on this site called bioastinman too. something to check out, it has a lot of good info.

[luv2increase]

where are you getting your bioastin? i usually get it from ebay, the price there seems to be reasonable.
I found a really good free pdf on astaxanthin on this site called bioastinman too. something to check out, it has a lot of good info.

I get mine from Beyond a Century. It is bioastin as well. The only downside is that you have to keep it refrigerated because it comes in a beadlike powder and says to refrigerate it. I take 400mg (8mg active) daily.

I don't really know if it is doing anything positive because I take so much stuff though. I do have extremely good recovery from workouts! Can that be attributed from the astaxanthin, I don't know?