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#1 advancedatheist

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 05:33 AM


I've run across several articles which argue that a long-dead University of Chicago professor named Leo Strauss helped to create the intellectual underpinnings of the "neo-conservative" movement now running the U.S. Apparently Strauss was atheistic, but he taught that religion is a socially useful fiction (as in "lie" or "falsehood") for keeping the unwashed American mob in line.

If the numerous identifiable "Straussians" in the Bush Administration share that view of religion, it would explain many of the pro-religion policies adopted by the Republican Party in recent years, and why this party's elite has allied itself with the resurgent, though mostly lower middle-class, fundamentalist and evangelical christian movements in the last generation. I had thought that our society had been debating whether christianity is true, but it's starting to look as if the Straussians secretly agree with the Secular Humanists on the indefensible nature of christian beliefs. Instead the intellectual elites had really been debating whether to explain to the masses that their religion is a superstition, with the Straussians arguing against enlightenment ("You can't handle the truth!"), and the Secular Humanists arguing for it.

Needless to say, the Straussians support pro-death science policies, so they demonstrate that people can privately reject religion and embrace deathism in the same meme space.

References:

Saving America
Leo Strauss and the neoconservatives
By Shadia B. Drury
http://evatt.org.au/...papers/112.html

Leo Strauss:
http://adbusters.org...auss/flash.html

Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception
By Jim Lobe, AlterNet
May 19, 2003
http://www.alternet....l?StoryID=15935

Leo Strauss and the Straussians
http://home.earthlin...ahn/Strauss.htm

Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss, the neo-cons, and Iraq
by Danny Postel
16 - 10 - 2003
http://www.opendemoc...e-3-77-1542.jsp

The Voice of Neoconservatism, by Ronald Bailey
http://reason.com/rb/rb101701.shtml

#2 John Doe

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 11:41 PM

The origin and nature of neocon thought fascinates me. Thank you for this thread.

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 12:33 AM

I'm just as fascinated by your post as your quouteline...stargate? Reminds me of a book I read recently having to do with what they called remote viewing.

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#4 advancedatheist

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 01:45 AM

I'm just as fascinated by your post as your quouteline...stargate?  Reminds me of a book I read recently having to do with what they called remote viewing.


Actually my quoteline refers to the film Stargate and the television series Stargate SG-1.

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 01:47 AM

I emailed Shadia Drury, the Canadian college professor who has written extensively about Strauss and his followers, to ask her where Strauss explicitly states his view of religion. She emailed back:

Follow the references in my  THE POLITICAL IDEAS OF LEO
STRAUSS and in the chapter two of LEO STRAUSS AND THE
AMERICAN RIGHT.

Shadia Drury
Canada Research Chair in Social Justice
Department of Political Science
University of Regina
Regina, Saskatchewan S4S 0A2
Phone (306) 585-4073
Website: www.uregina.ca/arts/CRC/


I would like to follow up on this, when time permits.

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 08:06 AM

What's the statistics for the non-religious proportion of the population for the USA? In Australia it is 15.5% (from 2001 nation-wide survey). The Christian believers are 68% of the population....

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 08:24 AM

THE HARRIS POLL #52, September 13, 2000
http://www.harrisint...dex.asp?PID=112

America continues to be one of the world’s most religious countries. The overwhelming majority of adult Americans believe in God (94%), heaven (89%), the resurrection of Christ (86%), the survival of the soul after death (86%), miracles (85%) and the virgin birth of Jesus (82%). Surveys in European countries have usually found far larger numbers of people who do not believe in God (and who probably do not believe in heaven, the soul or Christianity). Furthermore, there is no sign that America is becoming either a more, or less, religious country as measured by its beliefs. The numbers who hold these beliefs have not changed significantly since similar questions were asked in 1994 and 1998

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 07:05 PM

THE HARRIS POLL #52, September 13, 2000
http://www.harrisint...dex.asp?PID=112

America continues to be one of the world’s most religious countries. The overwhelming majority of adult Americans believe in God (94%), heaven (89%), the resurrection of Christ (86%), the survival of the soul after death (86%), miracles (85%) and the virgin birth of Jesus (82%). Surveys in European countries have usually found far larger numbers of people who do not believe in God (and who probably do not believe in heaven, the soul or Christianity). Furthermore, there is no sign that America is becoming either a more, or less, religious country as measured by its beliefs. The numbers who hold these beliefs have not changed significantly since similar questions were asked in 1994 and 1998


On the other hand:

http://channels.nets...notbelieveingod

Guess Who Doesn't Believe In God?

Ten percent of Protestants, 21 percent of Roman Catholics, and 52 percent of Jews do NOT believe in God.

That's the surprising word from a new survey by Harris Interactive of 2,306 adults that shows belief in God varies quite widely among different segments of the American public. How often do we go to a place of worship? Not much. Most people attend a religious service less than once a month. Still, Americans are far more likely to believe in God and to attend religious services than people in most other developed countries, particularly in Europe.

Who believes in God?
While 79 percent of Americans believe there is a God, only 66 percent are absolutely certain of it. Nine percent do not believe in God and 12 percent aren't sure. And weirdly, not everyone who calls himself or herself a Christian or a Jew actually believes in God.

Who worships at a religious service?
Just over half (55 percent) attend a religious service a few times a year or more. Thirty-six percent attend once a month or more often, and just 26 percent say they attend every week. Forty-one percent of women and 31 percent of men attend once a month or more. Protestants (47 percent) are more likely to go to church once a month or more often than are Roman Catholics (35 percent). Jews are least likely to go with 16 percent saying they go to synagogue once a month or more. Church attendance is highest in the Midwest and lowest in the West.

Belief in God by geography and age
Eighty-two percent of Midwesterners and Southerners believe in God, compared with 75 percent in the East and West. Our beliefs get stronger as we age. Of those 25 to 29 years old, 71 percent believe in God. That number jumps to 80 percent for people over 40, and hits 83 percent for those 65 and over.

Other fascinating facts about who believes in God:

84 percent of women believe in God, compared with 73 percent of men.
91 percent of African Americans believe in God, compared with 81 percent of Hispanics and 78 percent of whites.
87 percent of Republicans believe in God, compared with 78 percent of Democrats and 75 percent of Independents.
82 percent of those with no college education believe in God, compared with 73 percent who went to college.

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 07:44 PM

Well while those believers continue to fool themselves we know the real truth and are at least trying to do something about it! Also from what i gather there are probably plenty of believers who would love to live longer so that doesn't really detract from our goal I don't think...but like Carl Sagan points out in The Demon Haunted World, it is amazing how many people are drawn towards pseudo-science as well as all sorts of false belief systems.

this is upsetting because real science is being ignored and replaced by mere fantasy or whatever people want to believe

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Posted 13 November 2003 - 07:49 PM

I also think there are alot of people who use religion as merely a way to uphold what they deem as good values in that at least religion can serve a communal purpose. The tradition associated with religion is very important to many people but it is hypocritical for so many of them to believe in God and go to church when it's "convnient " for them. This really irritates me because again instead of looking at the truth square in the face people are opting to essentially put on an act a guise to uphold a tradition this I object to because its putting fiction above truth.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 06:07 PM

Christians love life.
False-Christians don't care who dies.


Frankly I have no use for christianity and a whole lot of other arbitrary belief systems that don't offer anything tangibly useful when it comes to survival. (I consider it part of the Matrix I'm trying to escape from.)

In fact, I've started a file of what I call the "make-believe" things I plan to ignore from now on:

Christianity
Libertarianism
Objectivism
Buddhism
romantic love
self-esteem
self-actualization
most politics, except for what regards practical life extension, like cryonics and stem cell research
most science fiction, much of which I find either boring or incomprehensible (if you've read a couple dozen SF novels, you've pretty much read them all)

Which leaves things that will make a tangible difference, namely, science, medicine, technology, computing, mathematics and money.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 06:30 PM

Mark there is at least one "thing" on your list that you forgot to not ignore and admittedly it is hard at times to not want to; that is each other.

Together we are both problem and solution. Together we are the sum greater than the whole, not by some mystical meaning but through logical inference as we continuously build upon one another's achievements.

Being highly independent and somewhat iconoclastic I say it is difficult because at times people and their needs, hell even my own neediness wears me down. I lose patience with children, parents, spouses, neighbors, friends, students, teachers, enemies, and government. I always seem to lose my patience and then remember that the problems are rarely if ever solved by ignoring them and never if we are not engaging by participating in the 'process.'

"We" are make believe because if you ascribe to the idea of Free Will then you acknowledge that we make our own fate. Of course you might ascribe to the "make-belief" concept of determinism and then all is good and doesn't matter anyway.

Individually we can "make a difference," together however we stand a much better chance. This is the real power of religion and politics, the reason I often remind people that all religion is politics and sadly as practiced, visa versa.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 07:10 PM

I am slightly disturbed by seeing libertarianism on your list of things to be ignored.

Which leaves things that will make a tangible difference, namely, science, medicine, technology, computing, mathematics and money.

You must have a degree of freedom to engage in all of the above and libertarians are Freedom's greatest defenders.

Also, strange to see socialism is NOT on the list. Socialism has a long history of spectacular torture and death of millions of humans. Doesn't anyone remember the National Socialist Party of Germany. No one remembers that their campaign slogan was "For the good of the German folk". That is the way it always starts out...it is supposed to be good...but then fantastic human wreckage always follows in the footsteps of socialism.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 08:20 PM

I am slightly disturbed by seeing libertarianism on your list of things to be ignored.


People on Cryonet have repeatedly posted lamentations about how much better cryonics would be if we lived in a "libertarian" society. We don't live in such a society, and there is no reason to expect that we're ever going to. We have to make do with the situation we have now, in the real world.


Which leaves things that will make a tangible difference, namely, science, medicine, technology, computing, mathematics and money.

You must have a degree of freedom to engage in all of the above and libertarians are Freedom's greatest defenders.


In practice that converts into being the greatest defenders of the super-wealthy, who from the available evidence (e.g., their support of the Bush Administration, with the notable exception of George Soros) aren't interested in attaining radical life extension for themselves, much less for impecunious libertarians.

Also, strange to see socialism is NOT on the list. Socialism has a long history of spectacular torture and death of millions of humans. Doesn't anyone remember the National Socialist Party of Germany. No one remembers that their campaign slogan was "For the good of the German folk". That is the way it always starts out...it is supposed to be good...but then fantastic human wreckage always follows in the footsteps of socialism.


Social democracy has a respectable record of creating a high quality of life from per-capita GDP's somewhat lower than America's, all without police-state coercion. Where are the slave labor/death camps/GULAGs in Western Europe, Australia, Japan, New Zealand and Canada? The allegedly "free" U.S. has a larger percentage of its population in prison than any other developed democratic country in the world.

Refer to:

Quality of life: Sierra Leone versus Norway

Worldwide 2003 Quality of Life City Rankings

U.S. ranks 27th in world social progress; Africa in dire straits

Belgium: the Healthiest Nation in the World

I, like most Americans, was brought up to believe that America has "the best of everything." But I am willing to change my mind on the basis of empirical evidence that says otherwise.

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Posted 14 November 2003 - 11:36 PM

advancedatheist: In fact, I've started a file of what I call the "make-believe" things I plan to ignore from now on:

...
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Objectivism
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romantic love
self-esteem
self-actualization

Unfortunately, for too many, the above are make-believe. Perhaps it's for the best that they continue to fool themselves about their true significance.

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Posted 15 November 2003 - 12:52 AM

Social democracy has a respectable record of creating a high quality of life from per-capita GDP's somewhat lower than America's, all without police-state coercion. Where are the slave labor/death camps/GULAGs in Western Europe, Australia, Japan, New Zealand and Canada? The allegedly "free" U.S. has a larger percentage of its population in prison than any other developed democratic country in the world.


Mark, too bad Europe has gotten that way by discriminating against the poor.

Europe's trade hypocrisy: The West pays to keep the rest poor

EU won't eliminate cotton subsidies, official tells west Africans

Now that the "old" money Europe plundered from the rest of the world is running out they have to pursue other coercive means of maintaining thier high levels of social services, mainly through the OECD.

Europe's Tax Harmonization Agenda a Threat to the High-Tech Economy

International thuggery

DEMOCRATS CHASE AFTER RUNAWAY TAX SLAVES



Now for the best news of all

Scandinavia's Surprising Turn From Socialism

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 09:45 AM

What was neo-con for me?

Once upon a time I was called a neo-facist by a member of Imminst. At the time I made light of it. I think I made some wise crack remark and brushed it off. The truth is that it jolted me. I had never been called that before and I found the label... disconcerting. I think maybe it was that first real gut punch which got me to turn my analysis in upon myself and question everything that I believed in. Shortly there after, I began to view things from a very different perspective. At first, I continued my banter, but alas, the satisfaction that my world view had given to me was lost, never to return. A switch had been turned on and I soon found myself unable to continue writing from a neo-con perspective. The logic of Immortalism overwhelmed me. I must say that life some times proves to be a very odd state of affairs when you are grateful to someone for calling you a neo-facist. [lol]

Power, control, aggression, the attraction of solving problems quickly, social darwinism, classic geo-strategic thinking, zero-sum thinking (there are winners and there are losers)... winning is everything. Nationalism -- The US is #1, be proud. There is a reason the US is #1 and its because we are superior culturally. The American way of life is THE way of life. (It's funny now, looking back upon my former world view, how I so abhord religous dogma, but fell hook, line and sinker for the most blatant political dogma. Ah well, a lesson in humility I guess).

I think there are two different strata of neo-cons. There is the intelligencia and then there are the lay people.

It is much as you have stated Advanced Atheist. There are the lower level neo-cons who actually drink the Kool-Aid and buy into all of the propaganda. And then there is the intelligencia which sees through (most) of the rhetoric and says, "Ah, sure a lot of this is BS, but who cares? As long as it's putting us closer to our objective, which is - of course - winning." Disinformation is a useful tool when manipulating the masses into doing what they should do, but do not have the "will" to do. AKA... the stupid masses don't know what's best for them so the best course of action is to fool them into doing what (I, we, us neo-cons) think is best for them.

And yes, through all of this there was (at least for me) a lack of belief in a full access agent such as "God".

The combined result was the subsequent negation of any obligation I had to morality. Basically, I felt the ends justify the means. When we die we die, it doesn't matter whether we were good or bad, we are all worm food so be brutal and ruthless and take this world for all that it is worth.

This kind of attitude, expoused by Strauss and my former self [tung] is probably why theists tend to view atheists as immoral. The only restraints that us Brights have on our actions and our moral integrity is that which we impose upon ourselves. As with anything else, there are good Brights and bad Brights. The laws of our modern society, established by both secular and theological morality, and the penalties for infractions upon the law, obviously limit the potential for abuse at the individual level, but my point remains valid; especially when evaluating abstract geo-strategic issues as a neo-conservative.

If anyone would like to dialog with me on this subject I would be delighted.

Calling it a night,

Don

Edited by DonSpanton, 19 December 2003 - 10:20 AM.


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Posted 19 December 2003 - 01:37 PM

Don since I still remember your contributions to the old Iraq war thread I'd be interested in knowing how you currently view geopolitics.

As someone who shared and still holds some of your old 'evil Don' assumptions. (The cultural superiority of western civilisation over all others, the need for a credible threat of force as a primary instrument of foreign policy, some fairly darwinistic ideas about how progress in general is achieved.) I'd be interested in knowing how this shift has affected your view on international politics.

Regarding ethics and atheism, my own sense of morality has always stemmed from the fact that I consider self-awareness to be an end in and of itself.

To me the very act of experiencing the world has worth.

I believe in life extension, not just for myself but for as many people as is viable for this reason alone. We are sometimes led to disregard this value, and view the worth of both ourselves and others in strictly utilitarian/economic terms, mainly because it amenable to quantification and measurement and also because it often affords bright capable people like ourselves a degree of smug satisfaction. Judging the value of a human being by the quality of his output is ultimately distorting and diminshing because ignores the incalculable worth of his subjective 'I-hood', what a more metaphysically inclined writer than myself might term the value of his soul.

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 04:46 PM

Don since I  still remember your contributions to the old Iraq war thread I'd be interested in knowing how you currently view geopolitics.


Well, ever since I watch "A Beautiful Mind" and learned that it was based on a true story I have become interested in game theory and its implications. At the end of this post I'll put up an article that I consider germane to the conversation. Also, I should state up front that my geopolitical views are currently in limbo, as it takes a while to build a new perspective after the old "house of cards" one has created comes crashing down. Basically, I'm still trying to "figure things out", but this doesn't mean that I haven't refuted much of what I use to believe.

As someone who shared and still holds some of your old 'evil Don' assumptions.

1. The cultural superiority of western civilisation over all others.


I think superior is the wrong term to use because it leads to a classical line of reasoning in regards to geo-political competition which need not exist. We are economically, institutionally, and politically more advanced than the other cultures of the world. This doesn't mean that "our way" has to be spread the world over. I'm starting to believe that it is very difficult, if not impossible, to try and force upon a people cultural changes which took western civilization centuries to transition through. Cultural evolution is a notoriously slow process.

Having a more advanced culture also doesn't mean that we are even remotely close to the appex of cultural evolution. Humanistic principles have made inroads, but religion is still prevelent through out much of the western world. Inotherwords, we are still a part of this world and we still possess the same flaws in our nature that every other culture possesses. We are not above the fray. You have to allow for the possibility that we are part of the problem and not just part of the solution.

2. the need for a credible threat of force as a primary instrument of foreign policy.


A yeah, but we already possess a very credible threat of force with the thousands of ICBM's we possess. The US spends more on defense than the next 15 nations after it combine, that is starting to seem like a little bit of over kill to me. I still feel that having a sufficient conventional military threat is necessary, but actually using military forces creates a great deal of backlash in the international community, as is evident by the second Gulf War. Throwing our weight around creates a lot of animosity, suspicion and anger.

And what do we accomplish by being "proactive" militarily? It's starting to look like we've given ourselves an occupation with no exit strategy. Occupations are costly and there is no guarantee of success. Also, the prohibitive cost of using military force (and the subsequent occupation) allows for the temptation to use the control we have gained to exact informal restitutions to pay for the costs incurred. This further perpetuates the cyclical nature of resentment, anger and violence.

I'm not against having a credible threat of force, but I am beginning to better understand the costs of going forward with the threat. I think occupations are something that should be avoided if at all possible.

3. some fairly darwinistic ideas about how progress in general is achieved


I'm going to attach a little piece on game theory which I think modifies the concept of social darwinism to the point where it is no longer recognizable.

Regarding ethics and atheism, my own sense of morality has always stemmed from the fact that I consider self-awareness to be an end in and of itself.


Could you ellaborate on this point?

Game Theory

Avinash Dixit, John J. F. Sherrerd '52 University Professor of Economics at Princeton University, is John Nash's colleague and friend. He has taught economics courses on games of strategy, and written books on the subject for students and for the general audience.

Here Prof. Dixit explains game theory and its impact on situations we encounter every day. "If Nash got a dollar for every time someone wrote or said 'Nash equilibrium,'" Dixit has said, "he would be a rich man."

Game theory studies interactive decision-making, where the outcome for each participant or "player" depends on the actions of all. If you are a player in such a game, when choosing your course of action or "strategy" you must take into account the choices of others. But in thinking about their choices, you must recognize that they are thinking about yours, and in turn trying to take into account your thinking about their thinking, and so on.

It would seem that such thinking about thinking must be so complex and subtle that its successful practice must remain an arcane art. Indeed, some aspects such as figuring out the true motives of rivals and recognizing complex patterns do often resist logical analysis. But many aspects of strategy can be studied and systematized into a science -- game theory.

A Theory is Born
This science is unusual in the breadth of its potential applications. Unlike physics or chemistry, which have a clearly defined and narrow scope, the precepts of game theory are useful in a whole range of activities, from everyday social interactions and sports to business and economics, politics, law, diplomacy and war. Biologists have recognized that the Darwinian struggle for survival involves strategic interactions, and modern evolutionary theory has close links with game theory.

Game theory got its start with the work of John von Neumann in the 1920s, which culminated in his book with Oskar Morgenstern. They studied "zero-sum" games where the interests of two players were strictly opposed. John Nash treated the more general and realistic case of a mixture of common interests and rivalry and any number of players. Other theorists, most notably Reinhard Selten and John Harsanyi who shared the 1994 Nobel Memorial Prize with Nash, studied even more complex games with sequences of moves, and games where one player has more information than others.

The Nash Equilibrium
The theory constructs a notion of "equilibrium," to which the complex chain of thinking about thinking could converge. Then the strategies of all players would be mutually consistent in the sense that each would be choosing his or her best response to the choices of the others. For such a theory to be useful, the equilibrium it posits should exist. Nash used novel mathematical techniques to prove the existence of equilibrium in a very general class of games. This paved the way for applications. Biologists have even used the notion of Nash equilibrium to formulate the idea of evolutionary stability. Here are a few examples to convey some ideas of game theory and the breadth of its scope.

The Prisoner's Dilemma
In Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22, allied victory in World War II is a foregone conclusion, and Yossarian does not want to be among the last ones to die. His commanding officer points out, "But suppose everyone on our side felt that way?" Yossarian replies, "Then I'd certainly be a damned fool to feel any other way, wouldn't I?"

Every general reader has heard of the prisoner's dilemma. The police interrogate two suspects separately, and suggest to each that he or she should fink on the other and turn state's evidence. "If the other does not fink, then you can cut a good deal for yourself by giving evidence against the other; if the other finks and you hold out, the court will treat you especially harshly. Thus no matter what the other does, it is better for you to fink than not to fink -- finking is your uniformly best or 'dominant' strategy." This is the case whether the two are actually guilty, as in some episodes of NYPD Blue, or innocent, as in the film LA Confidential. Of course, when both fink, they both fare worse than they would have if both had held out; but that outcome, though jointly desirable for them, collapses in the face of their separate temptations to fink.

Yossarian's dilemma is just a multi-person version of this. His death is not going to make any significant difference to the prospects of victory, and he is personally better off alive than dead. So avoiding death is his dominant strategy.

John Nash played an important role in interpreting the first experimental study of the prisoner's dilemma, which was conducted at the Rand Corporation in 1950.

Real-World Dilemmas
Once you recognize the general idea, you will see such dilemmas everywhere. Competing stores who undercut each other's prices when both would have done better if both had kept their prices high are victims of the dilemma. (But in this instance, consumers benefit from the lower prices when the sellers fink on each other.) The same concept explains why it is difficult to raise voluntary contributions, or to get people to volunteer enough time, for worthwhile public causes.

How might such dilemmas be resolved? If the relationship of the players is repeated over a long time horizon, then the prospect of future cooperation may keep them from finking; this is the well-known tit-for-tat strategy. A "large" player who suffers disproportionately more from complete finking may act cooperatively even when the small fry are finking. Thus Saudi Arabia acts as a swing producer in OPEC, cutting its output to keep prices high when others produce more; and the United States bears a disproportionate share of the costs of its military alliances. Finally, if the group as a whole will do better in its external relations if it enjoys internal cooperation, then the process of biological or social selection may generate instincts or social norms that support cooperation and punish cheating. The innate sense of fairness and justice that is observed among human subjects in many laboratory experiments on game theory may have such an origin.

Mixing Moves
In football, when an offense faces a third down with a yard to go, a run up the middle is the usual or "percentage" play. But an occasional long pass in such a situation is important to keep the defense honest. Similarly, a penalty kicker in soccer who kicks exclusively to the goalie's right, or a server in tennis who goes exclusively to the receiver's forehand, will fare poorly because the opponent will anticipate and counter the action. In such situations it is essential to mix one's moves randomly, so that on any one occasion the action is unpredictable.

Mixing is most important in games where the players' interests are strictly opposed, and this happens most frequently in sports. Indeed, recent empirical studies of serving in tennis grand slam finals, and penalty kicks in European soccer leagues, have found the behavior consistent with the theory.

Commitments
Greater freedom of action seems obviously desirable. But in games of bargaining that need not be true, because freedom to act can simply become freedom to concede to the other's demands. Committing yourself to a firm final offer leaves the other party the last chance to avoid a mutually disastrous breakdown, and this can get you a better deal. But a mere verbal declaration of firmness may not be credible. Devising actions to make one's commitments credible is one of the finer arts in the realm of strategic games. Members of a labor union send their leaders into wage bargaining with firm instructions or mandates that tie their hands, thereby making it credible that they will not accept a lower offer. The executive branch of the U.S. government engaged in international negotiations on trade or related matters can credibly take a firm stance by pointing out that the Congress would not ratify anything less. And a child is more likely to get the sweet or toy it wants if it is crying too loudly to hear your reasoned explanations of why it should not have it.

Thomas Schelling pioneered the study of credible commitments, and other more complex "strategic moves" like threats and promises. This has found many applications in diplomacy and war, which, as military strategist Karl von Clausewitz told us long ago, are two sides of the same strategic coin.

Information and Incentives
Suppose you have just graduated with a major in computer science, and have an idea for a totally new "killer app" that will integrate PCs, cell phones, and TV sets to create a new medium. The profit potential is immense. You go to venture capitalists for finance to develop and market your idea. How do they know that the potential is as high as you claim it to be? The idea is too new for them to judge it independently. You have no track record, and might be a complete charlatan who will use the money to live high for a few years and then disappear. One way for them to test your own belief in your idea is to see how much of your own money you are willing to risk in the project. Anyone can talk a good game; if you are willing to put enough of your money where your mouth is, that is a credible signal of your own true valuation of your idea.

This is a game where the players have different information; you know the true potential of your idea much better than does your prospective financier. In such games, actions that reveal or conceal information play crucial roles. The field of "information economics" has clarified many previously puzzling features of corporate governance and industrial organization, and has proved equally useful in political science, studies of contract and tort law, and even biology. The award of the Nobel Memorial Prize in 2001 to its pioneers, George Akerlof, Michael Spence, and Joseph Stiglitz, testifies to its importance. What has enabled information economics to burgeon in the last twenty years is the parallel development of concepts and techniques in game theory.

Aligning Interests, Avoiding Enrons
A related application in business economics is the design of incentive schemes. Modern corporations are owned by numerous shareholders, who do not personally supervise the operations of the companies. How can they make sure that the workers and managers will make the appropriate efforts to maximize shareholder value? They can hire supervisors to watch over workers, and managers to watch over supervisors. But all such monitoring is imperfect: the time on the job is easily monitored, but the quality of effort is very difficult to observe and judge. And there remains the problem of who will watch over the upper-level management. Hence the importance of compensation schemes that align the interests of the workers and managers with those of the shareholders. Game theory and information economics have given us valuable insights into these issues. Of course we do not have perfect solutions; for example, we are just discovering how top management can manipulate and distort the performance measures to increase their own compensation while hurting shareholders and workers alike. This is a game where shareholders and the government need to find and use better counterstrategies.

From Intuition to Prediction
While reading these examples, you probably thought that many of the lessons of game theory are obvious. If you have had some experience of playing similar games, you have probably intuited good strategies for them. What game theory does is to unify and systematize such intuitions. Then the general principles extend the intuitions across many related situations, and the calculation of good strategies for new games is simplified. It is no bad thing if an idea seems obvious when it is properly formulated and explained; on the contrary, a science or theory that takes simple ideas and brings out their full power and scope is all the more valuable for that.


I am much less confident of my ability to understand and argue my positions now, then when I was a neo-con, but I am much more confident that I am at least moving in the right direction. As Laz always says, politics is religion and religion is politics. I now agree with this notion and am trying to be ever so careful with the assumption I make. One's arguments are only as strong as its weakest link.

Nice to talk Utna, we need to chat real time, but the I've been having problems with the chat room lately.

Sincerely
Don

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 09:04 PM

Impressive Luke [":)]




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