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[Mind]

Psychics get pwned....again

Yay!

[JohnDoe1234]

A psychic I saw the other week told me someone who's name starts with an J would post a good article within the next few days...

Edited by Joseph, 19 July 2008 - 01:53 AM.

[Neurosail]

ESP (Extra Stupid Powers)

[niner]

While I'm not trying to be pro-psychic, that article was just an anecdote. It doesn't mean much.

[zoolander]

that's bullshit niner. There are plenty of examples out there where psychics have made predictions that have made people's lives difficult. My advice to the psychics in this situation, especially when discussing such delicate information is to STFU and to consult the facts.

There is more than one party implicated in the above story though. The school and school board acted prematurely.

[Shannon Vyff]

yeah, and that psychic didn't even get pwned! (no arrest or repercussions apparently)

[zoolander]

Actually, to add to what I said above, the same goes for those who give irresponsible advice in difficult situations because they want to play GOD. I see this all the time with people recommending dangerous combinations and dosages of supps and meds. It really pisses me off because a lot of the time it appears to be such a selfish act where someone is playing/feeding their Mr or Mrs know-it-all ego.

I'm going to STFU myself now because I can easily get carried away with stuff I feel passionate about

[zoolander]

yeah, and that psychic didn't even get pwned! (no arrest or repercussions apparently)

The people at the school who acted as well as the person who gave the information should accept full responsibility. The psychic most definitely implicated just as someone who pays a hitman to knock someone of is implication. She was implicite in her actions.

yeah, and that psychic didn't even get pwned! (no arrest or repercussions apparently)

Did you see that coming? I felt my red chakra point in the central channel flare up and tell me something was wrong and then I saw the letters MILK on the side of a dairy truck that drove by. Of course the letters MILK stood for Mostly Innocent Lady Klarovoyant. I know that Klarovayant is spelt with a "C" but sometimes you just have to go with it.

[niner]

that's bullshit niner. There are plenty of examples out there where psychics have made predictions that have made people's lives difficult. My advice to the psychics in this situation, especially when discussing such delicate information is to STFU and to consult the facts.

There is more than one party implicated in the above story though. The school and school board acted prematurely.

I just mean that it doesn't have anything to say about whether psychic phenomena exist or not. It's certainly the case that this particular "psychic" was an irresponsible fraud, although the school authorities should have known better. They ought to be disciplined, or sued. The fact that the school people would listen to a "psychic" and make a report based on it is fairly shocking, to be honest. I repeat, I'm not trying to be pro-psychic, but this event is nothing more than an anecdote, and that's not bullshit.

[zoolander]

I don't think we're argueing whether psychic phenomena exists or not. It seems to me that we're discussing another dangerous **** up by someone in the psychic community.

I repeat, I'm not trying to be pro-psychic, but this event is nothing more than an anecdote, and that's not bullshit.

I'm not going to question whether you're being pro-psychic. Technically you're correct. It's anecdote. However, calling it an anecdote is a tad niave though. This is not a once off situation.

Would you call a study in humans demonstrating positive effects on longevity a mere anecdote? After all it's just one example of a situation isn't it. You may call it anecdotal evidence if it was a once off but if their were a a collection of studies to back the anecdotal evidence then it's no longer anecdotal.

Anyhow it seems that the tom foolery that psychics get up to is enough for Philadelphia’s Department of Licenses and Inspections to shut down the storefronts of psychics, astrologers, and palm readers [link].

In my opinion most psychics are missing an 'ot' in their title. These psychotics believe their hullicinations are preminitions or visions of the future and to me that's no different to the various states of psychosis as outlines in the DSM-IV. I know that there have been situations where these psychics have seen something and it has happened but I've also done this. That's just coincidence.

Psychosis wiki entry

Edited by zoolander, 20 July 2008 - 04:51 AM.

[Mind]

Right...the psychic in the story did not get pwned but psychics as a group did get pwned by the author of the article.

[zoolander]

[Live Forever]

I still remember when the Psychic Friends Network went bankrupt a few years ago. (at least in the US; it was a call in psychic line) You would have thought they would have seen it coming.

[lightowl]

The internets are telling me all kinds of weird things are happening and is going to happen very soon. Should I immediately go call the fire department and tell them the world is about to go up in flames? I think the person taking this psychic seriously enough as to report it to authorities is as much to blame for the confusion. After all, the psychic was just acting like a psychic claiming to use psychic powers to gain the information.

The psychic didn't say: I saw this and this happen, or I heard someone tell they saw this and this happen. The psychic "asked her if she works with a little girl with the initial V". Very like a psychic indeed. The psychic probably already knew the person was working with children at that point, basically by asking into such things. The real blame lies probably on the authorities for pursuing such a mad explanation.

"Say madam, why do you think this little girl is being sexually abused?...." "oh, well, ahem, a psychic told me a girl I know with the initial V had a problem.... "

You don't really need to be a psychic to make up alarmist stories. Ive seen enough TV in my life to know that as a fact.

Edited by lightowl, 21 July 2008 - 12:04 AM.

[lightowl]

The fact that the school people would listen to a "psychic" and make a report based on it is fairly shocking, to be honest.

Precisely. Whats even more shocking is that the police in some western countries (Sweden for example), are using psychics in their investigations. To be fair, they are pretty much out of reasonable leads when they start reverting to such randomness. The shocking part is that they are wasting valuable resources on it. I guess sometimes they just need to show they have done ABSOLUTELY everything to solve the crime to satisfy the victims. A bit like the death penalty IMHO. What a waste.

Edited by lightowl, 21 July 2008 - 12:06 AM.