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[nbourbaki]

I thought this would be of some interest to the group. www.beyond-a-century.com is now selling piracetam powder.

NEW! PIRACETAM (2-oxo-pyrrolidine acetamide), the original European nootropic now available in low-cost powder. It has been said to safely enhance, protect, & optimize memory and learning in normal individuals. Some say optimum dose is 2400mg 2x/day for one month, 1200mg 2x/day thereafter, others suggest 100mg/kg bodyweight/day. 300g powder $7.50

[LifeMirage]

Great deal, now if they could only make it taste great too.

[nbourbaki]

I didn't notice before, but they have also added Picamilon:

NEW! PICAMILON, (sodium salt), aka Picamilone, is a nootropic (smart drug) developed in Russia consisting of niacin bonded to GABA with much greater effects than taking both supplements together. Picamilon increases circulation in parts of the brain and is a better vasodilator than vinpocetin. It is unique for having a stimulating effect while also tranquillizing without sedation. It is a mild reversible MAO inhibitor shown in studies to improve a number of neurological problems usually within a week of continuous use. Picamilon may be synergistic with piracetam & other nootripics, vasodilators, MAO inhibitors, and general antidepressants, so use lowered dosage and advice from your health professional when combining these. Dose is 50-100mg 1-3x/day with occasional breaks. Sold for $5/gram in Europe! 20g powder $13.75.

[staz]

what does it taste like? the pira / pica powder?
ah crap, just when I ordered picamilon caps from smart nutrition 6 grams (60x100mg) for 30$+big transport cost :(

[LifeMirage]

Ha-ha.

Piracetam is pretty bitter Picamilon does not have much of a taste though.

[noos]

What about the quality of the piracetam powder?. Anyone could compare it to brand products?.
Thanks

[jpars82]

How hard is it to make your own capsules with powder?? Do they sell kits for it? I would be interested in the Picamilon powder.

[LifeMirage]

It's easy just buy a bag of empty capsules & a capsule machine.

[staz]

how much is a capsule machine? and what kind of stores sell them?
same for empty capsules, where can they be obtained?

[nbourbaki]

how much is a capsule machine? and what kind of stores sell them?
same for empty capsules, where can they be obtained?

I bought a Cap M Quik. Do a google search, lots of places sell the capsule machines and capsules.

[bradcure]

Or you can parachute the powder. Tissue and powder - and there is no bad taste ;-)

[staz]

or just dissolve it in water and hold your nose while you swallow it

[scifiwriter]

sorry, I don't get the parachute thingie.
Could you elaborate?
thanks

[noos]

Or you can parachute the powder. Tissue and powder - and there is no bad taste ;-)

Are you serious?. Do you mean using tissue paper to wrap the piracetam?.

What I would like to know is if powders are well absorbed in the stomach and if the drug is effective this way. I understand capsules dissolve in the intestine. But I am not sure.

Thanks

[bradcure]

Yes parachuting (tissue) works perfectly. I've done it many times, not only with supplements ;-) but it works great.

[noos]

you can buy edible starch paper, capsules and a capsule machine at vrp.com

[staz]

Hmm, I thought caps dissolved in the stomach.

[anjatalker]

How would you measure how much you are putting into the capsules? (ie. for 800mg of piracetam a capsule)

Is there an average weigh per 0 or 00 capsule?

Thanks.

[noos]

Hmm, I thought caps dissolved in the stomach.

yes, I think that the ones that do not are the enteric coated

[brkonman]

or just dissolve it in water and hold your nose while you swallow it

Does anyone know if piracetam powder would degrade over time in water? Or does anyone know of other options for creating a piracetam solution? Would be nice to just mix a batch and dose accordingly if it will hold.

[D Sade]

http://www.bulknutri...products_id=912

Looks like this is even less expensive than Beyond-a-century, and the COA is posted.

So the shelf life of Piracetam is 2 years? Do I need to refrigerate it or anything?


Edit: Oops, I didn't see the source on the sticky.

[anjatalker]

How do you dose the powedered piracetam with a capsule machine? How would you make sure that you're putting, say 800mg per capsule?

Also, is the bulk, powdered piracetam as reliable as generic capsules (ie. Sherwyn's)? The price difference is simply amazing.

[staz]

i wonder that too, and i wonder how much the cheapest capsule machine costs and where you can buy it..

[D Sade]

I got a Cap-M-Quick with a tamper. Piracetam is VERY easy to cap. You might not get exactly 800mg per cap, but the OO size comes close enough.

I think the Capper and the Tamper came to $20, well worth it.

[staz]

what's a tamper?

[funkmasterflex]

the piracetam powder going around seems to be good source. I got 1fast400.com source and it is great stuff. So iam guessing beyond's is prob same source for that price...1fast was 750 grams for 20 bucks...5 shipping

[shpongled]

what's a tamper?

It presses the material down into the caps so you can fit more in. With piracetam you really don't need one though, it doesn't make a big difference, maybe 50 mg more per cap max.

I just capped a kilogram of piracetam last night, about 750-800 mg per cap. It took me 5-6 hours but I was watching movies at the same time. But that's a good year's worth at 2.4 g/daily. Definitely worth the hassle IMO. Here are links to the stuff I used...

Cap M Quik: http://www.bulknutri...products_id=557
Gel caps: http://www.bulknutri...products_id=555
Piracetam powder: http://www.bulknutri...products_id=912

[godlovesus]

[quote] anjatalker

How would you measure how much you are putting into the capsules? (ie. for 800mg of piracetam a capsule)

Is there an average weigh per 0 or 00 capsule?

Thanks.



A method i use for measuring 2C compounds is liquid titration. It involves taking a known amount of material and mixing into a solution with a known amount of liquid. (Most 2C compounds are very stable in water) This allows u to measure out relatively accurate doses. **it would be better to acquire and use a scale accurate to the nearest milligram**

[axiombiological]

[quote][quote] anjatalker

How would you measure how much you are putting into the capsules? (ie. for 800mg of piracetam a capsule)

Is there an average weigh per 0 or 00 capsule?

Thanks.
[/quote]

There is a range of mass which a 00 capsule will hold, which from personal experience is 300-700 mg. This is due to the differing particle sizes and densities of each compound.

Bulk Nutrition has the best price for Piracetam, at the moment.