Does anyone else notice intense sleepiness when on 400 mg Oxi? Even after taking 300 mg Alpha GPC & a vitamin B complex?
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Posted 20 August 2008 - 01:33 AM
Posted 20 August 2008 - 02:12 AM
Does anyone else notice intense sleepiness when on 400 mg Oxi? Even after taking 300 mg Alpha GPC & a vitamin B complex?
Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:16 AM
Does anyone else notice intense sleepiness when on 400 mg Oxi? Even after taking 300 mg Alpha GPC & a vitamin B complex?
I don't know but for me, it gives me a weird, wired energy along with being very edgy and aggressive. I discontinued it due to this.
Are you taking your alpha-gpc on an empty stomach? I hope so because it is water-soluble and is best absorbed this way.
Posted 20 August 2008 - 11:42 AM
Does anyone else notice intense sleepiness when on 400 mg Oxi? Even after taking 300 mg Alpha GPC & a vitamin B complex?
Posted 21 August 2008 - 03:05 AM
Same here - made me feel really weird. Discontinued it.
Cheers
AlexDoes anyone else notice intense sleepiness when on 400 mg Oxi? Even after taking 300 mg Alpha GPC & a vitamin B complex?
I don't know but for me, it gives me a weird, wired energy along with being very edgy and aggressive. I discontinued it due to this.
Are you taking your alpha-gpc on an empty stomach? I hope so because it is water-soluble and is best absorbed this way.
Posted 21 August 2008 - 04:56 PM
Edited by stephen_b, 21 August 2008 - 04:57 PM.
Posted 21 August 2008 - 06:37 PM
Posted 22 August 2008 - 03:36 AM
Posted 22 August 2008 - 05:03 AM
Posted 22 August 2008 - 11:20 PM
It's stimulating, and stimulants cause sleepiness is some people.
Posted 23 August 2008 - 04:18 AM
1200 mg ALPHA GPC.
Posted 24 August 2008 - 02:00 AM
Oxiracetam makes it almost IMPOSSIBLE for me to talk properly. Even after 400-800 mg oxiracetam and 1200 mg ALPHA GPC. I downed the dose of Oxi, but the 'racetam is terrible. Gives you a wired, noticably socially awkward feeling. (me and my dad)
It's stimulating, and stimulants cause sleepiness is some people.
Posted 24 September 2008 - 01:52 AM
Oxiracetam makes it almost IMPOSSIBLE for me to talk properly. Even after 400-800 mg oxiracetam and 1200 mg ALPHA GPC. I downed the dose of Oxi, but the 'racetam is terrible. Gives you a wired, noticably socially awkward feeling. (me and my dad)
It's stimulating, and stimulants cause sleepiness is some people.
You share nootropics with your dad? That's funny. "Hey dad! Try that it will make you feel funny". "NO DRUGS IN MY HOUSE!!! GET OUT OF HERE!"
Posted 25 September 2008 - 02:41 AM
yeah .. my dad loves the pira .. noticed an effect in just 4 days .
Does anyone else notice intense sleepiness when on 400 mg Oxi? Even after taking 300 mg Alpha GPC & a vitamin B complex?
Edited by mystery, 25 September 2008 - 02:44 AM.
Posted 27 September 2008 - 11:34 PM
Posted 27 September 2008 - 11:38 PM
When I first started taking Oxiracetam I felt a bit edgy on it, but never sleepy.
Nevertheless, I stuck with taking Oxiracetam in order to give it a fair trial, and after about three weeks or so I began to notice that it seemed to enhance "out of the box" thinking, and all of the negative side effects dissipated.
At times I would be amazed with some of the creative solutions my mind would derive in response to work problems that literally used to stymie me.
I also began to notice stark improvements in my memory, and I found myself relying far less upon props such as referring back to previously written material, or personally stored knowledge databases to refresh my memory.
I found myself able to work more quickly and efficiently on building an understanding of some new complex and detailed process involving a high degree of interrelated dependencies, free of the time wasting referrals back to the memory props.
Finally, it seemed to increase my mental energies substantially, allowing me to work at near full capacity for many hours on end, and far longer than I ever could prior to taking Oxiracetam.
The best news of all is that for my part, I have not noticed any tolerance buildup to it at all. I have been using it for about 3 months now.
There is one effect that I have noticed, and someone else has already mentioned it, and that is what I will call the Spock (from Star Trek) logic effect. Sometimes ideas and concepts will come to mind seemingly void of emotion, meaning it is (apparently) easier to get to the point of the matter. This is a difficult concept to articulate. I can see a potential advantage in those cases in where emotional bias might otherwise cloud one's logical reasoning process.
One last note. I'm an older guy (57 years old), so the improvements that I have noticed with Oxi may in part be due to my declining mental faculties as part of the normal aging process.
LD
Posted 28 September 2008 - 01:51 AM
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I am glad to hear you are having exceptional success with Oxiracetam. Your post has given me courage to give Oxiracetam another go; hopefully I will be able to get over the edgy hump and reap the benefits such as yourself! Wish me luck.
Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:41 AM
Yes, best of luck with it.
Prior to Nootropic supplementation, I was beginning to notice a significant memory decline, and an increase in brain fog. I had attributed that to the normal aging process, although I've always had some degree of ADD related symptoms throughout my life. To a great extent, the Nootropics have alleviated the symptoms for me. My only regret is not having had access to them at an earlier age :-)
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I am glad to hear you are having exceptional success with Oxiracetam. Your post has given me courage to give Oxiracetam another go; hopefully I will be able to get over the edgy hump and reap the benefits such as yourself! Wish me luck.
Posted 29 September 2008 - 01:06 AM
Hi Conald,
thanks for this interesting post!
I really like to know more about your nootropic stack!
Can you elaborate - what do you take and how much?
Cheers AlexYes, best of luck with it.
Prior to Nootropic supplementation, I was beginning to notice a significant memory decline, and an increase in brain fog. I had attributed that to the normal aging process, although I've always had some degree of ADD related symptoms throughout my life. To a great extent, the Nootropics have alleviated the symptoms for me. My only regret is not having had access to them at an earlier age :-)
LD[
I am glad to hear you are having exceptional success with Oxiracetam. Your post has given me courage to give Oxiracetam another go; hopefully I will be able to get over the edgy hump and reap the benefits such as yourself! Wish me luck.
Posted 30 September 2008 - 07:18 PM
Posted 01 October 2008 - 12:34 PM
Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:45 PM
I started out experimenting with various Nootropics individually, and then in combination with other Nootropics. I eliminated those noots that either had a significant adverse impact upon me, or had no impact at all. It is possible that some of the non-impacting noots may have had a greater impact had I given them more time to work, but I decided to stick with the most effective noots for the time being. Generally speaking, if I noticed no significant advantage after taking them for 30 days or so, I abandoned them.
Edited by chrono, 30 September 2010 - 05:45 PM.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:25 PM
Conanld,
that is an interesting and very valueable report.
Thanks!
Regarding the Huperzine A - could you elaborate on this one?
- How much (if any) Huperzine A do you take?
- What are the effects you get?
- How long does it take until you feel the effects?
- What kind of over stimulation do you get from Huperzine A?
- What are the main side effects do you get from Huperzine A?
Cheers Alex
Edited by chrono, 30 September 2010 - 05:46 PM.
Posted 03 October 2008 - 05:22 PM
BrotherX (Alex),
I usually take 100 mcg of Huperzine A when I resort to taking it, although I have used as much as 200 mcg per day on some occasions. I always take it with my first stack in the very early morning hours, and I never take it more than a couple times per week, if even that.
When combined with other Nootropics, I will first notice a boost in my ability to focus and concentrate within 1 to 1.5 hours. The feeling tends to build over the next several hours too, with the peak occurring around maybe 5 or 6 hours or so after ingestion. From there, the decline in effect is very gradual.
So Huperzine A appears to do two things for me. One, it increases the overall intensity of my focus, and two, it appears to extend the length of time that the other nootropics remain operational within my system. There is a third less desirable effect, and that is the roll-off can be so gradual that the wakeful state might persist into my typical sleeping period. Insomnia is the only adverse side effect that I have experienced while using Huperzine A, although the insomnia does not necessarily happen every time I take it.
Edited by chrono, 30 September 2010 - 05:46 PM.
Posted 03 October 2008 - 10:52 PM
LD,
very well explained. I was thinking about the use of Huperzine a - but also know about the potential dangerous which are attached to this substance - and the side effects which can appear from time to time (like insomnia).
Maybe I will give it a try - someday - but not as a substance for my basic stack.
Cheers
Alex
Edited by chrono, 30 September 2010 - 05:47 PM.
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