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[REGIMEN]

Thanks for the info. I looked for the Sourdough rye bread and couldn't find it at Wal-Mart or Target, so I think I'll have better luck at Whole Foods like you mentioned. As for the sunflower nuts question, I was asking because I buy them already packaged; the bag says they’re roasted (no salt) sunflower nuts. I eat them because my pyramid says I should only get fats from nuts, fish and vegetable oils and since most of my diet is almost no fat and I only eat fish twice a week, I eat the nuts everyday to get some needed healthy fat. I also changed the milk from 0 fat to 1% (it’s still lactose free though) so that my body has a bit more fat to store vitamins A, D, E and K.

I believe I will eat Kiwi from now instead of Bananas; someone mentioned it has DNA repair properties.

I would eat animal protein every day since it is a component of your diet already. One small portion of animal protein every day is all that is needed and best had at lunch time. Fish 2-4x/week is good as long as you're getting some chicken and your protein powder. Consider getting more of your protein from legumes/beans/lentils as they have nearly no fat and help in numerous other ways(best type are adzuki, mung, and pinto as they are easiest to digest)
I would be wary of eggs and dairy as they are highly prone to produce mucus which leads to many diseases as defined by TCM. Consider Oolong tea or other mucus-cutting remedies such as radish, daikon, celery, and sour-citrus juice after eating animal protein. These are good snacks if you have been raised on animal protein, also.

Something to look for: Amish-raised or organic whole chickens. It was by sheer luck that they sell the Amish ones at a grocery store nearby. What you do is roast it, de-bone it, and then boil the bones/skin/cartilage for 1-2 hours on low heat.
1) you get an assortment of chicken meat that should last 3-6 days.
2) you get a Warming broth that has 'clean' gelatin which helps with joints and brain tissue. Let the broth cool in the fridge over night and skim off the white fat on the surface. After that you just take a spoon of it and warm it in an equal part of hot water. It can be quite a bit of broth so share it with your family or flatmates.
(The Amish chickens I get are cheap each costing under $5-US.)

Edited by REGIMEN, 08 September 2008 - 04:44 PM.

[Dmitri]

Thanks for the info. I looked for the Sourdough rye bread and couldn't find it at Wal-Mart or Target, so I think I'll have better luck at Whole Foods like you mentioned. As for the sunflower nuts question, I was asking because I buy them already packaged; the bag says they're roasted (no salt) sunflower nuts. I eat them because my pyramid says I should only get fats from nuts, fish and vegetable oils and since most of my diet is almost no fat and I only eat fish twice a week, I eat the nuts everyday to get some needed healthy fat. I also changed the milk from 0 fat to 1% (it's still lactose free though) so that my body has a bit more fat to store vitamins A, D, E and K.

I believe I will eat Kiwi from now instead of Bananas; someone mentioned it has DNA repair properties.

I would eat animal protein every day since it is a component of your diet already. One small portion of animal protein every day is all that is needed and best had at lunch time. Fish 2-4x/week is good as long as you're getting some chicken and your protein powder. Consider getting more of your protein from legumes/beans/lentils as they have nearly no fat and help in numerous other ways(best type are adzuki, mung, and pinto as they are easiest to digest)
I would be wary of eggs and dairy as they are highly prone to produce mucus which leads to many diseases as defined by TCM. Consider Oolong tea or other mucus-cutting remedies such as radish, daikon, celery, and sour-citrus juice after eating animal protein. These are good snacks if you have been raised on animal protein, also.

Something to look for: Amish-raised or organic whole chickens. It was by sheer luck that they sell the Amish ones at a grocery store nearby. What you do is roast it, de-bone it, and then boil the bones/skin/cartilage for 1-2 hours on low heat.
1) you get an assortment of chicken meat that should last 3-6 days.
2) you get a Warming broth that has 'clean' gelatin which helps with joints and brain tissue. Let the broth cool in the fridge over night and skim off the white fat on the surface. After that you just take a spoon of it and warm it in an equal part of hot water. It can be quite a bit of broth so share it with your family or flatmates.
(The Amish chickens I get are cheap each costing under $5-US.)

That's seems very time consuming, but I guess it's the price we have to pay in order to get a healthy meal.

I already eat Pinto beans almost everyday and fish and chicken 1-2 times a week and turkey (almost everyday since I put the shreds in the salad), so I don't see why people criticized my diet for being low in protein? I also drink White Tea it's much more powerful than green tea from recent research.

For the protein shake it's not a powder, I make it myself I add 2 eggs (12 g of protein), milk (12 g of protein), strawberries and wild blueberries into the blender; although like I mentioned before this likely carries the risk of salmonella since I use raw eggs? I don't know how else to make a protein shake though.

[edDe]

To really find out if your diet is missing something. It's a good
idea to use nutritional software.

CRON-O-Meter is good (and free). Its written by someone who does CR.

http://spaz.ca/cronometer/

It gets pretty tedious to weigh and compute everything you eat every day.
But if you do this once or twice a month for a typical day, then you still
get valuable information on your diet.

[REGIMEN]

Thanks for the info. I looked for the Sourdough rye bread and couldn't find it at Wal-Mart or Target, so I think I'll have better luck at Whole Foods like you mentioned. As for the sunflower nuts question, I was asking because I buy them already packaged; the bag says they're roasted (no salt) sunflower nuts. I eat them because my pyramid says I should only get fats from nuts, fish and vegetable oils and since most of my diet is almost no fat and I only eat fish twice a week, I eat the nuts everyday to get some needed healthy fat. I also changed the milk from 0 fat to 1% (it's still lactose free though) so that my body has a bit more fat to store vitamins A, D, E and K.

I believe I will eat Kiwi from now instead of Bananas; someone mentioned it has DNA repair properties.

I would eat animal protein every day since it is a component of your diet already. One small portion of animal protein every day is all that is needed and best had at lunch time. Fish 2-4x/week is good as long as you're getting some chicken and your protein powder. Consider getting more of your protein from legumes/beans/lentils as they have nearly no fat and help in numerous other ways(best type are adzuki, mung, and pinto as they are easiest to digest)
I would be wary of eggs and dairy as they are highly prone to produce mucus which leads to many diseases as defined by TCM. Consider Oolong tea or other mucus-cutting remedies such as radish, daikon, celery, and sour-citrus juice after eating animal protein. These are good snacks if you have been raised on animal protein, also.

Something to look for: Amish-raised or organic whole chickens. It was by sheer luck that they sell the Amish ones at a grocery store nearby. What you do is roast it, de-bone it, and then boil the bones/skin/cartilage for 1-2 hours on low heat.
1) you get an assortment of chicken meat that should last 3-6 days.
2) you get a Warming broth that has 'clean' gelatin which helps with joints and brain tissue. Let the broth cool in the fridge over night and skim off the white fat on the surface. After that you just take a spoon of it and warm it in an equal part of hot water. It can be quite a bit of broth so share it with your family or flatmates.
(The Amish chickens I get are cheap each costing under $5-US.)

That's seems very time consuming, but I guess it's the price we have to pay in order to get a healthy meal.

I already eat Pinto beans almost everyday and fish and chicken 1-2 times a week and turkey (almost everyday since I put the shreds in the salad), so I don't see why people criticized my diet for being low in protein? I also drink White Tea it's much more powerful than green tea from recent research.

For the protein shake it's not a powder, I make it myself I add 2 eggs (12 g of protein), milk (12 g of protein), strawberries and wild blueberries into the blender; although like I mentioned before this likely carries the risk of salmonella since I use raw eggs? I don't know how else to make a protein shake though.

The chicken thing is once a week which should provide your 3-6 servings of chicken protein.

The eggs and milk are fine if you are active. That means at very least 30 minutes of sweating during activity. But taking that in the morning is a bad idea. Your body is only beginning to warm up from sleep and by dousing your lukewarm stomach with four Cold and Damp producing foods you are setting up the foundations for increased seasonal colds and Stomach/Spleen Deficiency based fatigue and obesity. Fruits like blueberries and strawberries are good for the heat and activity of summer but now as autumn and winter come along you need to find a new breakfast meal. Of course feel free to discount any of this if you don't prescribe to TCM principles. (links in my profile; may take awhile to read)

[Dmitri]

Thanks for the info. I looked for the Sourdough rye bread and couldn't find it at Wal-Mart or Target, so I think I'll have better luck at Whole Foods like you mentioned. As for the sunflower nuts question, I was asking because I buy them already packaged; the bag says they're roasted (no salt) sunflower nuts. I eat them because my pyramid says I should only get fats from nuts, fish and vegetable oils and since most of my diet is almost no fat and I only eat fish twice a week, I eat the nuts everyday to get some needed healthy fat. I also changed the milk from 0 fat to 1% (it's still lactose free though) so that my body has a bit more fat to store vitamins A, D, E and K.

I believe I will eat Kiwi from now instead of Bananas; someone mentioned it has DNA repair properties.

I would eat animal protein every day since it is a component of your diet already. One small portion of animal protein every day is all that is needed and best had at lunch time. Fish 2-4x/week is good as long as you're getting some chicken and your protein powder. Consider getting more of your protein from legumes/beans/lentils as they have nearly no fat and help in numerous other ways(best type are adzuki, mung, and pinto as they are easiest to digest)
I would be wary of eggs and dairy as they are highly prone to produce mucus which leads to many diseases as defined by TCM. Consider Oolong tea or other mucus-cutting remedies such as radish, daikon, celery, and sour-citrus juice after eating animal protein. These are good snacks if you have been raised on animal protein, also.

Something to look for: Amish-raised or organic whole chickens. It was by sheer luck that they sell the Amish ones at a grocery store nearby. What you do is roast it, de-bone it, and then boil the bones/skin/cartilage for 1-2 hours on low heat.
1) you get an assortment of chicken meat that should last 3-6 days.
2) you get a Warming broth that has 'clean' gelatin which helps with joints and brain tissue. Let the broth cool in the fridge over night and skim off the white fat on the surface. After that you just take a spoon of it and warm it in an equal part of hot water. It can be quite a bit of broth so share it with your family or flatmates.
(The Amish chickens I get are cheap each costing under $5-US.)

That's seems very time consuming, but I guess it's the price we have to pay in order to get a healthy meal.

I already eat Pinto beans almost everyday and fish and chicken 1-2 times a week and turkey (almost everyday since I put the shreds in the salad), so I don't see why people criticized my diet for being low in protein? I also drink White Tea it's much more powerful than green tea from recent research.

For the protein shake it's not a powder, I make it myself I add 2 eggs (12 g of protein), milk (12 g of protein), strawberries and wild blueberries into the blender; although like I mentioned before this likely carries the risk of salmonella since I use raw eggs? I don't know how else to make a protein shake though.

The chicken thing is once a week which should provide your 3-6 servings of chicken protein.

The eggs and milk are fine if you are active. That means at very least 30 minutes of sweating during activity. But taking that in the morning is a bad idea. Your body is only beginning to warm up from sleep and by dousing your lukewarm stomach with four Cold and Damp producing foods you are setting up the foundations for increased seasonal colds and Stomach/Spleen Deficiency based fatigue and obesity. Fruits like blueberries and strawberries are good for the heat and activity of summer but now as autumn and winter come along you need to find a new breakfast meal. Of course feel free to discount any of this if you don't prescribe to TCM principles. (links in my profile; may take awhile to read)

Of course I'll take your advice you seem to know a lot about this. I guess I'll only eat the rye crisp bread, yogurt, whole grain waffles and nuts in the morning. Also, activity is not a problem since I exercise about 60 minutes 5 days a week (I used to do 85, but now that I'm back in school I lowered it to 60).

[niner]

I made another switch, I eat whole grain crisp bread and light rye crisp bread; I suppose it's healthier than regular whole grain bread since it has 0 fat and 50-60% less calories. Also, thank you for your recommendations.

"Light rye crisp bread" is basically all white flour as are any of the Scandinavian-style crisp breads; I used to like them, too. Consider looking in the freezer section for sourdough Rye bread. They're thin slices but hearty enough to stand on their own and have a ton of flavor. Rye has excellent effects on liver health which is amplified further by the sour culture of this style of bread.

I thought there was nothing wrong with the light rye crisp bread considering it has 0 fat, 17 grams of whole grain, 13 grams of Fiber and only 30 calories, but I'll look for the one you recommended. As for the banana I use them to add taste and thickness to the protein shake; is there anything else I can use instead of bananas (as I mentioned before I also add strawberries and wild blueberries but the shake doesn't get as thick with those two alone)?

I also eat lentils from time to time (not every week though). Anyway, someone mentioned that roasted peanuts had AGEs, do you know if roasted sunflower nuts contain AGEs as well?

The problem with the light rye crisp bread somewhat hinges on whether it's made from whole grain or white flour. If it's white flour, then it will tend to spike your glucose level which isn't good. The "crisp" part suggests that it was heated at some point to make it toast-like, in which case it would have more AGEs than regular rye bread. AGE formation is mainly related to the level and duration of high temperature the food is exposed to, so most anything roasted will have some AGEs.

[Dmitri]

I made another switch, I eat whole grain crisp bread and light rye crisp bread; I suppose it's healthier than regular whole grain bread since it has 0 fat and 50-60% less calories. Also, thank you for your recommendations.

"Light rye crisp bread" is basically all white flour as are any of the Scandinavian-style crisp breads; I used to like them, too. Consider looking in the freezer section for sourdough Rye bread. They're thin slices but hearty enough to stand on their own and have a ton of flavor. Rye has excellent effects on liver health which is amplified further by the sour culture of this style of bread.

I thought there was nothing wrong with the light rye crisp bread considering it has 0 fat, 17 grams of whole grain, 13 grams of Fiber and only 30 calories, but I'll look for the one you recommended. As for the banana I use them to add taste and thickness to the protein shake; is there anything else I can use instead of bananas (as I mentioned before I also add strawberries and wild blueberries but the shake doesn't get as thick with those two alone)?

I also eat lentils from time to time (not every week though). Anyway, someone mentioned that roasted peanuts had AGEs, do you know if roasted sunflower nuts contain AGEs as well?

The problem with the light rye crisp bread somewhat hinges on whether it's made from whole grain or white flour. If it's white flour, then it will tend to spike your glucose level which isn't good. The "crisp" part suggests that it was heated at some point to make it toast-like, in which case it would have more AGEs than regular rye bread. AGE formation is mainly related to the level and duration of high temperature the food is exposed to, so most anything roasted will have some AGEs.

So, I shouldn't eat the roasted sunflower nuts? What type of nuts should I eat now, all the sunflower nuts I've seen say roasted on the packages. I was eating them for their healthy fat. So, if the crisp bread has AGE do you know if the sourdough rye bread REGIMEN recommended has any AGEs?

Also, how harmful are AGEs? I see that some members here use peanut butter for their resveratrol absorption, but if it has AGEs why are they using it?

[REGIMEN]

Thanks for the info. I looked for the Sourdough rye bread and couldn't find it at Wal-Mart or Target, so I think I'll have better luck at Whole Foods like you mentioned. As for the sunflower nuts question, I was asking because I buy them already packaged; the bag says they're roasted (no salt) sunflower nuts. I eat them because my pyramid says I should only get fats from nuts, fish and vegetable oils and since most of my diet is almost no fat and I only eat fish twice a week, I eat the nuts everyday to get some needed healthy fat. I also changed the milk from 0 fat to 1% (it's still lactose free though) so that my body has a bit more fat to store vitamins A, D, E and K.

I believe I will eat Kiwi from now instead of Bananas; someone mentioned it has DNA repair properties.

I would eat animal protein every day since it is a component of your diet already. One small portion of animal protein every day is all that is needed and best had at lunch time. Fish 2-4x/week is good as long as you're getting some chicken and your protein powder. Consider getting more of your protein from legumes/beans/lentils as they have nearly no fat and help in numerous other ways(best type are adzuki, mung, and pinto as they are easiest to digest)
I would be wary of eggs and dairy as they are highly prone to produce mucus which leads to many diseases as defined by TCM. Consider Oolong tea or other mucus-cutting remedies such as radish, daikon, celery, and sour-citrus juice after eating animal protein. These are good snacks if you have been raised on animal protein, also.

Something to look for: Amish-raised or organic whole chickens. It was by sheer luck that they sell the Amish ones at a grocery store nearby. What you do is roast it, de-bone it, and then boil the bones/skin/cartilage for 1-2 hours on low heat.
1) you get an assortment of chicken meat that should last 3-6 days.
2) you get a Warming broth that has 'clean' gelatin which helps with joints and brain tissue. Let the broth cool in the fridge over night and skim off the white fat on the surface. After that you just take a spoon of it and warm it in an equal part of hot water. It can be quite a bit of broth so share it with your family or flatmates.
(The Amish chickens I get are cheap each costing under $5-US.)

That's seems very time consuming, but I guess it's the price we have to pay in order to get a healthy meal.

I already eat Pinto beans almost everyday and fish and chicken 1-2 times a week and turkey (almost everyday since I put the shreds in the salad), so I don't see why people criticized my diet for being low in protein? I also drink White Tea it's much more powerful than green tea from recent research.

For the protein shake it's not a powder, I make it myself I add 2 eggs (12 g of protein), milk (12 g of protein), strawberries and wild blueberries into the blender; although like I mentioned before this likely carries the risk of salmonella since I use raw eggs? I don't know how else to make a protein shake though.

The chicken thing is once a week which should provide your 3-6 servings of chicken protein.

The eggs and milk are fine if you are active. That means at very least 30 minutes of sweating during activity. But taking that in the morning is a bad idea. Your body is only beginning to warm up from sleep and by dousing your lukewarm stomach with four Cold and Damp producing foods you are setting up the foundations for increased seasonal colds and Stomach/Spleen Deficiency based fatigue and obesity. Fruits like blueberries and strawberries are good for the heat and activity of summer but now as autumn and winter come along you need to find a new breakfast meal. Of course feel free to discount any of this if you don't prescribe to TCM principles. (links in my profile; may take awhile to read)

Of course I'll take your advice you seem to know a lot about this. I guess I'll only eat the rye crisp bread, yogurt, whole grain waffles and nuts in the morning. Also, activity is not a problem since I exercise about 60 minutes 5 days a week (I used to do 85, but now that I'm back in school I lowered it to 60).

Thumbs up on the exercise. Keep it up and you'll probably have few to no problems.

For breakfast consider a touch of miso added to oatmeal or cabbage soup. Oats and cabbage are great for the colder seasons. Miso's fermentation offers lactobacillus to enrich your intestinal flora. You could drop the yogurt for miso then since yogurt is Cold/Damp/Mucus-producing just like all other dairy products. I know it's tasty but it really puts the squeeze on digestion strength. Since you're young and I assume healthy you may not notice the difference if you stop using it. Some people are also just constitutionally more capable of handling dairy anyways.

Seasonal dietary attunement:
http://www.shen-nong...ice_season.html
Coincidentally (and quite possibly to my discredit) the coming Autumn season is when dairy and banana can be helpful. Also, oats and rye are considered "Sour" so chow down.

Edited by REGIMEN, 11 September 2008 - 04:55 AM.

[Dmitri]

Thanks for the info. I looked for the Sourdough rye bread and couldn't find it at Wal-Mart or Target, so I think I'll have better luck at Whole Foods like you mentioned. As for the sunflower nuts question, I was asking because I buy them already packaged; the bag says they're roasted (no salt) sunflower nuts. I eat them because my pyramid says I should only get fats from nuts, fish and vegetable oils and since most of my diet is almost no fat and I only eat fish twice a week, I eat the nuts everyday to get some needed healthy fat. I also changed the milk from 0 fat to 1% (it's still lactose free though) so that my body has a bit more fat to store vitamins A, D, E and K.

I believe I will eat Kiwi from now instead of Bananas; someone mentioned it has DNA repair properties.

I would eat animal protein every day since it is a component of your diet already. One small portion of animal protein every day is all that is needed and best had at lunch time. Fish 2-4x/week is good as long as you're getting some chicken and your protein powder. Consider getting more of your protein from legumes/beans/lentils as they have nearly no fat and help in numerous other ways(best type are adzuki, mung, and pinto as they are easiest to digest)
I would be wary of eggs and dairy as they are highly prone to produce mucus which leads to many diseases as defined by TCM. Consider Oolong tea or other mucus-cutting remedies such as radish, daikon, celery, and sour-citrus juice after eating animal protein. These are good snacks if you have been raised on animal protein, also.

Something to look for: Amish-raised or organic whole chickens. It was by sheer luck that they sell the Amish ones at a grocery store nearby. What you do is roast it, de-bone it, and then boil the bones/skin/cartilage for 1-2 hours on low heat.
1) you get an assortment of chicken meat that should last 3-6 days.
2) you get a Warming broth that has 'clean' gelatin which helps with joints and brain tissue. Let the broth cool in the fridge over night and skim off the white fat on the surface. After that you just take a spoon of it and warm it in an equal part of hot water. It can be quite a bit of broth so share it with your family or flatmates.
(The Amish chickens I get are cheap each costing under $5-US.)

That's seems very time consuming, but I guess it's the price we have to pay in order to get a healthy meal.

I already eat Pinto beans almost everyday and fish and chicken 1-2 times a week and turkey (almost everyday since I put the shreds in the salad), so I don't see why people criticized my diet for being low in protein? I also drink White Tea it's much more powerful than green tea from recent research.

For the protein shake it's not a powder, I make it myself I add 2 eggs (12 g of protein), milk (12 g of protein), strawberries and wild blueberries into the blender; although like I mentioned before this likely carries the risk of salmonella since I use raw eggs? I don't know how else to make a protein shake though.

The chicken thing is once a week which should provide your 3-6 servings of chicken protein.

The eggs and milk are fine if you are active. That means at very least 30 minutes of sweating during activity. But taking that in the morning is a bad idea. Your body is only beginning to warm up from sleep and by dousing your lukewarm stomach with four Cold and Damp producing foods you are setting up the foundations for increased seasonal colds and Stomach/Spleen Deficiency based fatigue and obesity. Fruits like blueberries and strawberries are good for the heat and activity of summer but now as autumn and winter come along you need to find a new breakfast meal. Of course feel free to discount any of this if you don't prescribe to TCM principles. (links in my profile; may take awhile to read)

Of course I'll take your advice you seem to know a lot about this. I guess I'll only eat the rye crisp bread, yogurt, whole grain waffles and nuts in the morning. Also, activity is not a problem since I exercise about 60 minutes 5 days a week (I used to do 85, but now that I'm back in school I lowered it to 60).

Thumbs up on the exercise. Keep it up and you'll probably have few to no problems.

For breakfast consider a touch of miso added to oatmeal or cabbage soup. Oats and cabbage are great for the colder seasons. Miso's fermentation offers lactobacillus to enrich your intestinal flora. You could drop the yogurt for miso then since yogurt is Cold/Damp/Mucus-producing just like all other dairy products. I know it's tasty but it really puts the squeeze on digestion strength. Since you're young and I assume healthy you may not notice the difference if you stop using it. Some people are also just constitutionally more capable of handling dairy anyways.

Seasonal dietary attunement:
http://www.shen-nong...ice_season.html
Coincidentally (and quite possibly to my discredit) the coming Autumn season is when dairy and banana can be helpful. Also, oats and rye are considered "Sour" so chow down.

Thanks for the link, I haven't read all the page, but at first glance it appears that the diet they recommend is similar to the macrobiotic diet since they mention the Yin and the Yan. I'll read it all tomorrow since I have to go to sleep now (I have class in the morning).

[s123]

I made another switch, I eat whole grain crisp bread and light rye crisp bread; I suppose it's healthier than regular whole grain bread since it has 0 fat and 50-60% less calories. Also, thank you for your recommendations.

"Light rye crisp bread" is basically all white flour as are any of the Scandinavian-style crisp breads; I used to like them, too. Consider looking in the freezer section for sourdough Rye bread. They're thin slices but hearty enough to stand on their own and have a ton of flavor. Rye has excellent effects on liver health which is amplified further by the sour culture of this style of bread.

I thought there was nothing wrong with the light rye crisp bread considering it has 0 fat, 17 grams of whole grain, 13 grams of Fiber and only 30 calories, but I'll look for the one you recommended. As for the banana I use them to add taste and thickness to the protein shake; is there anything else I can use instead of bananas (as I mentioned before I also add strawberries and wild blueberries but the shake doesn't get as thick with those two alone)?

I also eat lentils from time to time (not every week though). Anyway, someone mentioned that roasted peanuts had AGEs, do you know if roasted sunflower nuts contain AGEs as well?

The problem with the light rye crisp bread somewhat hinges on whether it's made from whole grain or white flour. If it's white flour, then it will tend to spike your glucose level which isn't good. The "crisp" part suggests that it was heated at some point to make it toast-like, in which case it would have more AGEs than regular rye bread. AGE formation is mainly related to the level and duration of high temperature the food is exposed to, so most anything roasted will have some AGEs.

So, I shouldn't eat the roasted sunflower nuts? What type of nuts should I eat now, all the sunflower nuts I've seen say roasted on the packages. I was eating them for their healthy fat. So, if the crisp bread has AGE do you know if the sourdough rye bread REGIMEN recommended has any AGEs?

Also, how harmful are AGEs? I see that some members here use peanut butter for their resveratrol absorption, but if it has AGEs why are they using it?

The AGEs in bread are melanoidines like pronyl lysine. Melanoidines are antioxidants that could prevent cancer and function as prebiotics. This said, I have to admit that I don't eat bread because I believe that it only contains empty (are almost empty) calories.

[Dmitri]

I made another switch, I eat whole grain crisp bread and light rye crisp bread; I suppose it's healthier than regular whole grain bread since it has 0 fat and 50-60% less calories. Also, thank you for your recommendations.

"Light rye crisp bread" is basically all white flour as are any of the Scandinavian-style crisp breads; I used to like them, too. Consider looking in the freezer section for sourdough Rye bread. They're thin slices but hearty enough to stand on their own and have a ton of flavor. Rye has excellent effects on liver health which is amplified further by the sour culture of this style of bread.

I thought there was nothing wrong with the light rye crisp bread considering it has 0 fat, 17 grams of whole grain, 13 grams of Fiber and only 30 calories, but I'll look for the one you recommended. As for the banana I use them to add taste and thickness to the protein shake; is there anything else I can use instead of bananas (as I mentioned before I also add strawberries and wild blueberries but the shake doesn't get as thick with those two alone)?

I also eat lentils from time to time (not every week though). Anyway, someone mentioned that roasted peanuts had AGEs, do you know if roasted sunflower nuts contain AGEs as well?

The problem with the light rye crisp bread somewhat hinges on whether it's made from whole grain or white flour. If it's white flour, then it will tend to spike your glucose level which isn't good. The "crisp" part suggests that it was heated at some point to make it toast-like, in which case it would have more AGEs than regular rye bread. AGE formation is mainly related to the level and duration of high temperature the food is exposed to, so most anything roasted will have some AGEs.

So, I shouldn't eat the roasted sunflower nuts? What type of nuts should I eat now, all the sunflower nuts I've seen say roasted on the packages. I was eating them for their healthy fat. So, if the crisp bread has AGE do you know if the sourdough rye bread REGIMEN recommended has any AGEs?

Also, how harmful are AGEs? I see that some members here use peanut butter for their resveratrol absorption, but if it has AGEs why are they using it?

The AGEs in bread are melanoidines like pronyl lysine. Melanoidines are antioxidants that could prevent cancer and function as prebiotics. This said, I have to admit that I don't eat bread because I believe that it only contains empty (are almost empty) calories.

I see so not all AGE are bad if some of them function as antioxidants.

[Dmitri]

I made another switch, I eat whole grain crisp bread and light rye crisp bread; I suppose it's healthier than regular whole grain bread since it has 0 fat and 50-60% less calories. Also, thank you for your recommendations.

"Light rye crisp bread" is basically all white flour as are any of the Scandinavian-style crisp breads; I used to like them, too. Consider looking in the freezer section for sourdough Rye bread. They're thin slices but hearty enough to stand on their own and have a ton of flavor. Rye has excellent effects on liver health which is amplified further by the sour culture of this style of bread.

I thought there was nothing wrong with the light rye crisp bread considering it has 0 fat, 17 grams of whole grain, 13 grams of Fiber and only 30 calories, but I'll look for the one you recommended. As for the banana I use them to add taste and thickness to the protein shake; is there anything else I can use instead of bananas (as I mentioned before I also add strawberries and wild blueberries but the shake doesn't get as thick with those two alone)?

I also eat lentils from time to time (not every week though). Anyway, someone mentioned that roasted peanuts had AGEs, do you know if roasted sunflower nuts contain AGEs as well?

The problem with the light rye crisp bread somewhat hinges on whether it's made from whole grain or white flour. If it's white flour, then it will tend to spike your glucose level which isn't good. The "crisp" part suggests that it was heated at some point to make it toast-like, in which case it would have more AGEs than regular rye bread. AGE formation is mainly related to the level and duration of high temperature the food is exposed to, so most anything roasted will have some AGEs.

So, I shouldn't eat the roasted sunflower nuts? What type of nuts should I eat now, all the sunflower nuts I've seen say roasted on the packages. I was eating them for their healthy fat. So, if the crisp bread has AGE do you know if the sourdough rye bread REGIMEN recommended has any AGEs?

Also, how harmful are AGEs? I see that some members here use peanut butter for their resveratrol absorption, but if it has AGEs why are they using it?

The AGEs in bread are melanoidines like pronyl lysine. Melanoidines are antioxidants that could prevent cancer and function as prebiotics. This said, I have to admit that I don't eat bread because I believe that it only contains empty (are almost empty) calories.

I wanted to ask you why you considered bread and rice empty calories? I would agree if they had nothing more than calories, but that's not the case.

http://www.mayoclini...-grains/NU00204
Whole grains are better sources of fiber and other important nutrients, such as selenium, potassium and magnesium. So whenever you can, choose whole grains over refined grains.

Edited by Dmitri, 11 September 2008 - 09:11 PM.

[s123]

I wanted to ask you why you considered bread and rice empty calories? I would agree if they had nothing more than calories, but that's not the case.

http://www.mayoclini...-grains/NU00204
Whole grains are better sources of fiber and other important nutrients, such as selenium, potassium and magnesium. So whenever you can, choose whole grains over refined grains.

100g bread, wheat bran contains: 248KCal, 10% vitamins and 25% minerals (Cron-O-Meter).
70g rice, brown, long grain, raw contains: 259KCal, 8% vitamins and 20% minerals.
2,2kg cucumber contains: 264KCal, 45% vitamins and 42% minerals.
1,4kg tomatoes, red, raw contains: 252KCal, 46% vitamins and 34% minerals.
780g broccoli contains: 265KCal, 57% vitamins and 39% minerals.

It's easy to see that in isocaloric conditions the vegetables are superior to carbs like bread and rice.

Edited by s123, 11 September 2008 - 09:46 PM.

[REGIMEN]

I wanted to ask you why you considered bread and rice empty calories? I would agree if they had nothing more than calories, but that's not the case.

http://www.mayoclini...-grains/NU00204
Whole grains are better sources of fiber and other important nutrients, such as selenium, potassium and magnesium. So whenever you can, choose whole grains over refined grains.

100g bread, wheat bran contains: 248KCal, 10% vitamins and 25% minerals (Cron-O-Meter).
70g rice, brown, long grain, raw contains: 259KCal, 8% vitamins and 20% minerals.
2,2kg cucumber contains: 264KCal, 45% vitamins and 42% minerals.
1,4kg tomatoes, red, raw contains: 252KCal, 46% vitamins and 34% minerals.
780g broccoli contains: 265KCal, 57% vitamins and 39% minerals.

It's easy to see that in isocaloric conditions the vegetables are superior to carbs like bread and rice.

2,2kg = 4.8 pounds .... That's a lot of cucumber. Same goes for 1,4kg and 780g.

[Dmitri]

I wanted to ask you why you considered bread and rice empty calories? I would agree if they had nothing more than calories, but that's not the case.

http://www.mayoclini...-grains/NU00204
Whole grains are better sources of fiber and other important nutrients, such as selenium, potassium and magnesium. So whenever you can, choose whole grains over refined grains.

100g bread, wheat bran contains: 248KCal, 10% vitamins and 25% minerals (Cron-O-Meter).
70g rice, brown, long grain, raw contains: 259KCal, 8% vitamins and 20% minerals.
2,2kg cucumber contains: 264KCal, 45% vitamins and 42% minerals.
1,4kg tomatoes, red, raw contains: 252KCal, 46% vitamins and 34% minerals.
780g broccoli contains: 265KCal, 57% vitamins and 39% minerals.

It's easy to see that in isocaloric conditions the vegetables are superior to carbs like bread and rice.

2,2kg = 4.8 pounds .... That's a lot of cucumber. Same goes for 1,4kg and 780g.

I finished reading the article and thought it was interesting. I don't think I could ever do CR, so I believe I'll go on a modified Macrobiotic diet instead which seems like the next best thing and it also uses the ideas you postulated from TCM. I said modified because I still plan to use supplements, which is something that is not recommended with MB.

[niner]

The AGEs in bread are melanoidines like pronyl lysine. Melanoidines are antioxidants that could prevent cancer and function as prebiotics. This said, I have to admit that I don't eat bread because I believe that it only contains empty (are almost empty) calories.

I see so not all AGE are bad if some of them function as antioxidants.

I don't think that this is true. "Melanoidin" is a general term for the colored polymeric gunk that results from the Maillard reaction when proteins and sugars are heated together. According the paper below, they are able to chelate certain antioxidant molecules that are already present in the food (coffee in this case) but it doesn't sound like they have a lot of antioxidant properties on their own. I think it's a huge stretch to say they could prevent cancer and have "prebiotic" properties. (probiotic? How would that work?)

We have in vivo experimental evidence from Helen Vlassara's lab that exogenous AGEs have negative impacts on health biomarkers. I'm not aware of any evidence at all that AGEs are good.

J Agric Food Chem. 2005 Mar 9;53(5):1403-7. Links
Unraveling the contribution of melanoidins to the antioxidant activity of coffee brews.Delgado-Andrade C, Morales FJ.
Unidad de Nutrición Animal, Estación Experimental del Zaidín, (CSIC), Camino del Jueves, 18100 Granada, Spain.

Instant coffees produced from the same green coffee beans were supplied from a company in different roasting degrees, light, medium, and dark. Melanoidins were obtained by ultrafiltration (10 kDa) and subsequent diafiltration. Pure melanoidins were isolated from melanoidins after overnight incubation in 2 M NaCl. The antioxidant activities of instant coffees, melanoidins, and pure melanoidins were tested using the conjugated diene formation from a 2,2'-azobis(2-amidinopropane) dihydrochloride-induced linoleic acid oxidation in an aqueous system. No significant differences were found between melanoidins and pure melanoidins with different roasting degrees. Therefore, the contribution of the pure melanoidin fraction to the total antioxidant activity of melanoidins was significantly lower. More than 50% of the antioxidant activity of melanoidins is due to low molecular weight compounds linked non-covalently to the melanoidin skeleton. A new concept of the overall antioxidant properties of food melanoidins is described, where chelating ability toward low molecular weight antioxidant compounds is connected to the stabilization of these compounds involved in the shelf life of the product.

PMID: 15740014

[Dmitri]

Thanks for the info. I looked for the Sourdough rye bread and couldn't find it at Wal-Mart or Target, so I think I'll have better luck at Whole Foods like you mentioned. As for the sunflower nuts question, I was asking because I buy them already packaged; the bag says they're roasted (no salt) sunflower nuts. I eat them because my pyramid says I should only get fats from nuts, fish and vegetable oils and since most of my diet is almost no fat and I only eat fish twice a week, I eat the nuts everyday to get some needed healthy fat. I also changed the milk from 0 fat to 1% (it's still lactose free though) so that my body has a bit more fat to store vitamins A, D, E and K.

I believe I will eat Kiwi from now instead of Bananas; someone mentioned it has DNA repair properties.

I would eat animal protein every day since it is a component of your diet already. One small portion of animal protein every day is all that is needed and best had at lunch time. Fish 2-4x/week is good as long as you're getting some chicken and your protein powder. Consider getting more of your protein from legumes/beans/lentils as they have nearly no fat and help in numerous other ways(best type are adzuki, mung, and pinto as they are easiest to digest)
I would be wary of eggs and dairy as they are highly prone to produce mucus which leads to many diseases as defined by TCM. Consider Oolong tea or other mucus-cutting remedies such as radish, daikon, celery, and sour-citrus juice after eating animal protein. These are good snacks if you have been raised on animal protein, also.

Something to look for: Amish-raised or organic whole chickens. It was by sheer luck that they sell the Amish ones at a grocery store nearby. What you do is roast it, de-bone it, and then boil the bones/skin/cartilage for 1-2 hours on low heat.
1) you get an assortment of chicken meat that should last 3-6 days.
2) you get a Warming broth that has 'clean' gelatin which helps with joints and brain tissue. Let the broth cool in the fridge over night and skim off the white fat on the surface. After that you just take a spoon of it and warm it in an equal part of hot water. It can be quite a bit of broth so share it with your family or flatmates.
(The Amish chickens I get are cheap each costing under $5-US.)

That's seems very time consuming, but I guess it's the price we have to pay in order to get a healthy meal.

I already eat Pinto beans almost everyday and fish and chicken 1-2 times a week and turkey (almost everyday since I put the shreds in the salad), so I don't see why people criticized my diet for being low in protein? I also drink White Tea it's much more powerful than green tea from recent research.

For the protein shake it's not a powder, I make it myself I add 2 eggs (12 g of protein), milk (12 g of protein), strawberries and wild blueberries into the blender; although like I mentioned before this likely carries the risk of salmonella since I use raw eggs? I don't know how else to make a protein shake though.

The chicken thing is once a week which should provide your 3-6 servings of chicken protein.

The eggs and milk are fine if you are active. That means at very least 30 minutes of sweating during activity. But taking that in the morning is a bad idea. Your body is only beginning to warm up from sleep and by dousing your lukewarm stomach with four Cold and Damp producing foods you are setting up the foundations for increased seasonal colds and Stomach/Spleen Deficiency based fatigue and obesity. Fruits like blueberries and strawberries are good for the heat and activity of summer but now as autumn and winter come along you need to find a new breakfast meal. Of course feel free to discount any of this if you don't prescribe to TCM principles. (links in my profile; may take awhile to read)

Of course I'll take your advice you seem to know a lot about this. I guess I'll only eat the rye crisp bread, yogurt, whole grain waffles and nuts in the morning. Also, activity is not a problem since I exercise about 60 minutes 5 days a week (I used to do 85, but now that I'm back in school I lowered it to 60).

Thumbs up on the exercise. Keep it up and you'll probably have few to no problems.

For breakfast consider a touch of miso added to oatmeal or cabbage soup. Oats and cabbage are great for the colder seasons. Miso's fermentation offers lactobacillus to enrich your intestinal flora. You could drop the yogurt for miso then since yogurt is Cold/Damp/Mucus-producing just like all other dairy products. I know it's tasty but it really puts the squeeze on digestion strength. Since you're young and I assume healthy you may not notice the difference if you stop using it. Some people are also just constitutionally more capable of handling dairy anyways.

Seasonal dietary attunement:
http://www.shen-nong...ice_season.html
Coincidentally (and quite possibly to my discredit) the coming Autumn season is when dairy and banana can be helpful. Also, oats and rye are considered "Sour" so chow down.

I drink Organic Rice Milk now which is made from brown rice (the healthiest type) it’s enriched with Vitamin A, D, B-12 and Calcium. What do you think about this type of milk? The carton claims it’s what vegetarians drink.

[REGIMEN]

I drink Organic Rice Milk now which is made from brown rice (the healthiest type) it’s enriched with Vitamin A, D, B-12 and Calcium. What do you think about this type of milk? The carton claims it’s what vegetarians drink.

Buying what is essentially heavy boxes of water with only 5% of the weight as actual rice content seems to be a bit shoddy to me especially since the amount of rice is exceptionally cheaper than what one of those containers costs. If it's to save time then I think you could find much better sources of nutrition.

http://www.nutrition...nd-pasta/5707/2

You'll get most of what's in brown rice if you make your own rice milk; packaged rice milk was probably cooked up days if not weeks prior to your purchase/consumption date for which the "enrichment" is necessary to fill in the gaps where the natural amounts decayed during that time. You take a multivitamin so the "enriched" element makes no difference which leaves you with another overpriced product implying to have some kind of benefit comparable to real milk by association of appellation.

Making your own "milk" is easy. It can be made from rice, oats, rye, quinoa, etc. Basically any type of grain and even beans/legumes and yes, even nuts like almonds. Making 2-4 days worth at one time is perfectly fine if it's kept refrigerated; make the consistency stronger so all that is needed before drinking is adding some hot/boiling water. Consider getting one of these as they keep hot water at the ready:
http://nihonhacks.co...otto-for-pasta/
They're available at most any Asian grocery and shopping area.

The trick is just using a small amount of grain/beans to volume of water and cook on a low heat simmer for 30-120 minutes. If you can soak your grains/beans before cooking (discard soak water) try putting them through a blender as this will increase surface area and speed cooking. There's a Mexican spiced rice drink called horchata which is close to what we're trying to accomplish here but horchata is not cooked and has most of the uncooked rice removed before serving. It's ratio is 5 cups water to 1 cup rice so try that but realize you'll need to fine tune your own recipe (or follow the Carb-gram ratio to water-grams in that Rice Milk product you bought). It's up to you if you want to add honey, sweeteners, or spices. Goji berries can be used for both flavoring and tonification in these type of recipes. Ah, and another great and very helpful recipe is stewed prunes: excellent for Cooling the Liver and fixing constipation by lending mucilaginous fluid for the lining of the intestines.

Goji berries can be had for 1/3 the price if bought at Asian groceries. Ask for something called Boxthorn fruit; it's usually drier than their Wh0leF00ds store brands bu tthat means they're probably in better shape: no preservatives and less decay from removed moisture.
Do read the Cautions at this link if you consider their use:
http://www.rootdown....i Zi?query=goji

During autumn I would stick to oat, rye, and almond milks. Check the TCM links in my profile for info on seasonal foods and use that as a template. "Milks" like this are great to keep you hydrated during the heat of summer and the dryness of winter and help to pack nutrition into every form of consumption all year round.

If you set up one day a week for the 3 hours it would take to make a "grain milk" and that roast chicken and marrow broth recommendation you'd gain much more for your health than you would lose from that time.

Vitamins/Minerals:
Find yourself a good b-12 supplement. Check around as there are many brands.

Calcium is had in exorbitantly larger amounts in seaweeds than in dairy.
The easiest seaweed to use and find is wakame. It has ten times the amount of calcium of milk, four times the amount of iron of beef, and a very beneficial amount of iodine almost non-existent in diets lacking seaweeds. You buy it dry and add it to the cooking process for things like soups, oatmeal and beans; even just hydrate it and then add it as-is to anything really. Konbu, aka kombu and kelp, is a firmer type that comes in convenient 1"x6" strips that you toss in with your beans (I prefer this for beans as it has more beneficial properties than wakame but needs the full 30+min. cooking time to become soft enough to enjoy eating...impossible for oatmeal cooking times). Cooking beans with konbu helps makes their proteins more easily digestible and adds the "***most highly mineralized food" into your diet. [***from the Pitchford book in my profile]

Vitamin D you can get from fish oil supplements (if not tablet supps). For as little a day as needed this shouldn't be too much of a cost. (1-2 grams...each gelcap is equal to 1g...EPA and DHA values can vary greatly. I prefer a much higher ratio of EPA than DHA despite most every source claiming the benefits are from DHA. More DHA gives me strange head sensations and I actually feel mentally slower. This is my favorite brand:
http://shop.genuineh...p;CategoryID=66
It has 500mg-EPA and only 25mg-DHA per capsule. You could get by on just one of these a day; take with lunch when the Heart is at it's peak activity:
http://en.wikipedia....iurnalCycle.jpg

Good link here for amounts of Vitamin D in foods (very small portions of certain fish seem to be best bet):
http://www.bchealthg...es/hfile68e.stm

Edited by REGIMEN, 22 September 2008 - 07:56 AM.

[Dmitri]

I drink Organic Rice Milk now which is made from brown rice (the healthiest type) it's enriched with Vitamin A, D, B-12 and Calcium. What do you think about this type of milk? The carton claims it's what vegetarians drink.

Buying what is essentially heavy boxes of water with only 5% of the weight as actual rice content seems to be a bit shoddy to me especially since the amount of rice is exceptionally cheaper than what one of those containers costs. If it's to save time then I think you could find much better sources of nutrition.

http://www.nutrition...nd-pasta/5707/2

You'll get most of what's in brown rice if you make your own rice milk; packaged rice milk was probably cooked up days if not weeks prior to your purchase/consumption date for which the "enrichment" is necessary to fill in the gaps where the natural amounts decayed during that time. You take a multivitamin so the "enriched" element makes no difference which leaves you with another overpriced product implying to have some kind of benefit comparable to real milk by association of appellation.

Making your own "milk" is easy. It can be made from rice, oats, rye, quinoa, etc. Basically any type of grain and even beans/legumes and yes, even nuts like almonds. Making 2-4 days worth at one time is perfectly fine if it's kept refrigerated; make the consistency stronger so all that is needed before drinking is adding some hot/boiling water. Consider getting one of these as they keep hot water at the ready:
http://nihonhacks.co...otto-for-pasta/
They're available at most any Asian grocery and shopping area.

The trick is just using a small amount of grain/beans to volume of water and cook on a low heat simmer for 30-120 minutes. If you can soak your grains/beans before cooking (discard soak water) try putting them through a blender as this will increase surface area and speed cooking. There's a Mexican spiced rice drink called horchata which is close to what we're trying to accomplish here but horchata is not cooked and has most of the uncooked rice removed before serving. It's ratio is 5 cups water to 1 cup rice so try that but realize you'll need to fine tune your own recipe (or follow the Carb-gram ratio to water-grams in that Rice Milk product you bought). It's up to you if you want to add honey, sweeteners, or spices. Goji berries can be used for both flavoring and tonification in these type of recipes. Ah, and another great and very helpful recipe is stewed prunes: excellent for Cooling the Liver and fixing constipation by lending mucilaginous fluid for the lining of the intestines.

Goji berries can be had for 1/3 the price if bought at Asian groceries. Ask for something called Boxthorn fruit; it's usually drier than their Wh0leF00ds store brands bu tthat means they're probably in better shape: no preservatives and less decay from removed moisture.
Do read the Cautions at this link if you consider their use:
http://www.rootdown....i Zi?query=goji

During autumn I would stick to oat, rye, and almond milks. Check the TCM links in my profile for info on seasonal foods and use that as a template. "Milks" like this are great to keep you hydrated during the heat of summer and the dryness of winter and help to pack nutrition into every form of consumption all year round.

If you set up one day a week for the 3 hours it would take to make a "grain milk" and that roast chicken and marrow broth recommendation you'd gain much more for your health than you would lose from that time.

Vitamins/Minerals:
Find yourself a good b-12 supplement. Check around as there are many brands.

Calcium is had in exorbitantly larger amounts in seaweeds than in dairy.
The easiest seaweed to use and find is wakame. It has ten times the amount of calcium of milk, four times the amount of iron of beef, and a very beneficial amount of iodine almost non-existent in diets lacking seaweeds. You buy it dry and add it to the cooking process for things like soups, oatmeal and beans; even just hydrate it and then add it as-is to anything really. Konbu, aka kombu and kelp, is a firmer type that comes in convenient 1"x6" strips that you toss in with your beans (I prefer this for beans as it has more beneficial properties than wakame but needs the full 30+min. cooking time to become soft enough to enjoy eating...impossible for oatmeal cooking times). Cooking beans with konbu helps makes their proteins more easily digestible and adds the "***most highly mineralized food" into your diet. [***from the Pitchford book in my profile]

Vitamin D you can get from fish oil supplements (if not tablet supps). For as little a day as needed this shouldn't be too much of a cost. (1-2 grams...each gelcap is equal to 1g...EPA and DHA values can vary greatly. I prefer a much higher ratio of EPA than DHA despite most every source claiming the benefits are from DHA. More DHA gives me strange head sensations and I actually feel mentally slower. This is my favorite brand:
http://shop.genuineh...p;CategoryID=66
It has 500mg-EPA and only 25mg-DHA per capsule. You could get by on just one of these a day; take with lunch when the Heart is at it's peak activity:
http://en.wikipedia....iurnalCycle.jpg

Good link here for amounts of Vitamin D in foods (very small portions of certain fish seem to be best bet):
http://www.bchealthg...es/hfile68e.stm

I switched because I have trouble with dairy, I get very gaseous when I eat dairy products which is why I had switched to lactose free milk. However, several people including you said dairy wasn't very healthy in regards to life extension so I dropped that milk for Rice Milk and now you‘re telling me that it‘s not so great because not enough rice is used? I don’t think it matters if it’s not as nutritious as homemade rice milk considering I take multi vitamins to make up for any vit/min I don’t get from my diet. Also, I really only use the milk for my protein+fruit smoothie so I think it’s fine.

I do appreciate your advice though

[REGIMEN]

I switched because I have trouble with dairy, I get very gaseous when I eat dairy products which is why I had switched to lactose free milk. However, several people including you said dairy wasn't very healthy in regards to life extension so I dropped that milk for Rice Milk and now you‘re telling me that it‘s not so great because not enough rice is used? I don’t think it matters if it’s not as nutritious as homemade rice milk considering I take multi vitamins to make up for any vit/min I don’t get from my diet. Also, I really only use the milk for my protein+fruit smoothie so I think it’s fine.

I do appreciate your advice though

Glad to oblige. I will say this, and don't know how to make it sound all that sweet, but your need for "milk" is arbitrary. My point about ricemilk not having much nutrition is based in the fact that it is 95% water and 5% rice. Why not just add brown rice you can eat off a spoon in meaningful portions? Same goes for multivitamins/minerals. Ricemilk comes out as a costly sliver of its whole cooked formed.

But if it's for the sake of convenience by all means use it.

Try throwing leftover rice/grain/beans from dinner into your blender with your fruit: instant "milk".

[jhonchris]

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[Dmitri]

I switched because I have trouble with dairy, I get very gaseous when I eat dairy products which is why I had switched to lactose free milk. However, several people including you said dairy wasn't very healthy in regards to life extension so I dropped that milk for Rice Milk and now you're telling me that it's not so great because not enough rice is used? I don't think it matters if it's not as nutritious as homemade rice milk considering I take multi vitamins to make up for any vit/min I don't get from my diet. Also, I really only use the milk for my protein+fruit smoothie so I think it's fine.

I do appreciate your advice though

Glad to oblige. I will say this, and don't know how to make it sound all that sweet, but your need for "milk" is arbitrary. My point about ricemilk not having much nutrition is based in the fact that it is 95% water and 5% rice. Why not just add brown rice you can eat off a spoon in meaningful portions? Same goes for multivitamins/minerals. Ricemilk comes out as a costly sliver of its whole cooked formed.

But if it's for the sake of convenience by all means use it.

Try throwing leftover rice/grain/beans from dinner into your blender with your fruit: instant "milk".

I have a question where did you find the thin frozen sourdough rye bread? I've typed sourdough rye bread in the whole foods website in order to see if they have the product but all that shows up is a regular loaf of Rye bread. I know they do sell miso though which I plan to buy since you recommended adding it to oatmeal in the morning. I currently eat a bowl of oatmeal with slices of banana (I only use strawberries and wild blueberries in the protein smoothie). I was also reading on another thread that cocoa is very healthy so I was thinking about adding those to the oatmeal (alternate between the two (miso and cocoa) each day). I also stopped making scrambled eggs since I add 2 eggs to the smoothie I figured it was too much cholesterol. I eat Van's 100% multi-grain waffles (made from oats, wheat, barley, buckwheat, etc) they have 5 g of protein and it has no dairy, eggs or preservatives.

Edited by Dmitri, 25 September 2008 - 03:48 AM.

[REGIMEN]

I switched because I have trouble with dairy, I get very gaseous when I eat dairy products which is why I had switched to lactose free milk. However, several people including you said dairy wasn't very healthy in regards to life extension so I dropped that milk for Rice Milk and now you're telling me that it's not so great because not enough rice is used? I don't think it matters if it's not as nutritious as homemade rice milk considering I take multi vitamins to make up for any vit/min I don't get from my diet. Also, I really only use the milk for my protein+fruit smoothie so I think it's fine.

I do appreciate your advice though

Glad to oblige. I will say this, and don't know how to make it sound all that sweet, but your need for "milk" is arbitrary. My point about ricemilk not having much nutrition is based in the fact that it is 95% water and 5% rice. Why not just add brown rice you can eat off a spoon in meaningful portions? Same goes for multivitamins/minerals. Ricemilk comes out as a costly sliver of its whole cooked formed.

But if it's for the sake of convenience by all means use it.

Try throwing leftover rice/grain/beans from dinner into your blender with your fruit: instant "milk".

I have a question where did you find the thin frozen sourdough rye bread? I've typed sourdough rye bread in the whole foods website in order to see if they have the product but all that shows up is a regular loaf of Rye bread. I know they do sell miso though which I plan to buy since you recommended adding it to oatmeal in the morning. I currently eat a bowl of oatmeal with slices of banana (I only use strawberries and wild blueberries in the protein smoothie). I was also reading on another thread that cocoa is very healthy so I was thinking about adding those to the oatmeal (alternate between the two (miso and cocoa) each day). I also stopped making scrambled eggs since I add 2 eggs to the smoothie I figured it was too much cholesterol. I eat Van's 100% multi-grain waffles (made from oats, wheat, barley, buckwheat, etc) they have 5 g of protein and it has no dairy, eggs or preservatives.

This is the brand I buy at the local Wh0leF00ds:
http://www.frenchmea...cation/organics
http://www.frenchmea...m/store-locator

Those Van's waffles sound great; think I'll pick some up today.

Consider adding decent amounts of cinnamon, clove, and any other savory spice to your fruit shakes. This should take the edge off the strong Cooling nature of drinking raw fruits and cold liquid. Adding oats, molasses, or rice syrup would help in this manner, also. Using Pu-erh or Oolong tea as the liquid base of your shakes will do this too as they are both Warming. A temperature-warm shake would be better indicated at all times of the year (cold foods take much more energy to digest as your stomach becomes a heat-sink when filled with cold items.; this decreases warmth in the rest of the body).

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Make your own nut milks:
http://store.therawd...om/nutmilk.html

Recommended through this link; see #3:
http://deepesthealth...an-or-not-diet/
This blogger is a student of TCM and has other pertinent blogs on issues you may find useful. (list on right side)

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Further info on Five Elements (diagram JPG on my profile page):
http://deepesthealth...-eat-optimally/

Edited by REGIMEN, 03 October 2008 - 07:16 PM.

[Dmitri]

I switched because I have trouble with dairy, I get very gaseous when I eat dairy products which is why I had switched to lactose free milk. However, several people including you said dairy wasn't very healthy in regards to life extension so I dropped that milk for Rice Milk and now you're telling me that it's not so great because not enough rice is used? I don't think it matters if it's not as nutritious as homemade rice milk considering I take multi vitamins to make up for any vit/min I don't get from my diet. Also, I really only use the milk for my protein+fruit smoothie so I think it's fine.

I do appreciate your advice though

Glad to oblige. I will say this, and don't know how to make it sound all that sweet, but your need for "milk" is arbitrary. My point about ricemilk not having much nutrition is based in the fact that it is 95% water and 5% rice. Why not just add brown rice you can eat off a spoon in meaningful portions? Same goes for multivitamins/minerals. Ricemilk comes out as a costly sliver of its whole cooked formed.

But if it's for the sake of convenience by all means use it.

Try throwing leftover rice/grain/beans from dinner into your blender with your fruit: instant "milk".

I have a question where did you find the thin frozen sourdough rye bread? I've typed sourdough rye bread in the whole foods website in order to see if they have the product but all that shows up is a regular loaf of Rye bread. I know they do sell miso though which I plan to buy since you recommended adding it to oatmeal in the morning. I currently eat a bowl of oatmeal with slices of banana (I only use strawberries and wild blueberries in the protein smoothie). I was also reading on another thread that cocoa is very healthy so I was thinking about adding those to the oatmeal (alternate between the two (miso and cocoa) each day). I also stopped making scrambled eggs since I add 2 eggs to the smoothie I figured it was too much cholesterol. I eat Van's 100% multi-grain waffles (made from oats, wheat, barley, buckwheat, etc) they have 5 g of protein and it has no dairy, eggs or preservatives.

This is the brand I buy at the local Wh0leF00ds:
http://www.frenchmea...cation/organics
http://www.frenchmea...m/store-locator

Those Van's waffles sound great; think I'll pick some up today.

Consider adding decent amounts of cinnamon, clove, and any other savory spice to your fruit shakes. This should take the edge off the strong Cooling nature of drinking raw fruits and cold liquid. Adding oats, molasses, or rice syrup would help in this manner, also. Using Pu-erh or Oolong tea as the liquid base of your shakes will do this too as they are both Warming. A temperature-warm shake would be better indicated at all times of the year (cold foods take much more energy to digest as your stomach becomes a heat-sink when filled with cold items.; this decreases warmth in the rest of the body).

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Make your own nut milks:
http://store.therawd...om/nutmilk.html

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Further info on Five Elements (diagram JPG on my profile page):
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I see, thank you for the links. Anyway, I do use cinnamon, but I add it to the oatmeal for taste (along with the banana).

[mustardseed41]

Just saw that my local Wally World now carries chocolate almond milk. Yum Yum..............