Ok ill start off the list
natural activators:
Exercise
CR
Low Carb diet
supplements/drugs:
AICAR
Metformin
Guanidinopropionic acid (GPA)
Creatine
lipoic acid
resveratrol
Edited by edward, 28 September 2008 - 04:45 AM.
Posted 27 September 2008 - 09:03 PM
Edited by edward, 28 September 2008 - 04:45 AM.
Posted 28 September 2008 - 04:48 AM
Would this list also include the PPAR-delta agonist GW1516, a not terrifically complex thiazole? Seems like it might from a quick read, and it would be cheaper in principle, though possibly not in practice, than AICAR (aminoimidazole carboxamide ribonucleotide).supplements/drugs:
AICAR
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Posted 30 September 2008 - 02:22 AM
Would this list also include the PPAR-delta agonist GW1516, a not terrifically complex thiazole? Seems like it might from a quick read, and it would be cheaper in principle, though possibly not in practice, than AICAR (aminoimidazole carboxamide ribonucleotide).supplements/drugs:
AICAR
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Edited by edward, 30 September 2008 - 02:50 AM.
Posted 30 September 2008 - 04:24 AM
Posted 30 September 2008 - 03:54 PM
Well, look at it this way: If GW1516 is relatively easy to make, I bet someone will make it, considering the stakes. I think that the doping agencies may already be on top of it, though.
Edited by edward, 30 September 2008 - 03:55 PM.
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Posted 23 March 2009 - 05:49 PM
A new study shows it raises aromotase levels, thereby increasing estrogen and lowering testosterone.
Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:49 PM
Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:41 PM
anyone know where we can buy gw1516 or AICAR? even if overseas?
seems like the ideal solution to me, the more i look into this issue.
Edited by lbarber4, 25 March 2009 - 05:42 PM.
Posted 25 March 2009 - 07:28 PM
anyone know where we can buy gw1516 or AICAR? even if overseas?
seems like the ideal solution to me, the more i look into this issue.
http://www.tocris.co...php?ItemId=5334
This place sells AICAR, 50 mg 74$!
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:37 PM
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:40 PM
what are my alternatives to try to generate that extra workout w/o actually leaving the office and doing it?
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Posted 27 March 2009 - 04:34 PM
I use ECGC and forskolin together, then take I3C with meals to hopefully offset the increased estrogen.
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Posted 17 August 2009 - 12:26 AM
do you know if gw1516 is the same as the old gw501516 that caused intestinal polyps/cancer to form?
Posted 02 February 2010 - 04:37 PM
It's not. I was just joking around, as I don't see nearly the potential in these drugs for exercise performance as some people do. Only advanced endurance athletes can afford to inhibit mTOR with an exogenous drug, and they wouldn't want to do that unless they want a short career ending with muscle atrophy.
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