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[biknut]

Does this sound familiar? Yes!! We have 2 rats here on this site too.


sarah p Says:
October 27, 2008 at 5:04 am

Ok, I want to clear my conscious a little. Hopefully you could make a blog post to help some fellow clinton supporters out.

I work for a campaign and can’t wait for this week to be over.

I was doing it for a job. I was not a fan of any candidate but over time grew to love HRC.

The internal campaign idea is to twist, distort, humiliate and finally dispirit you.

We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”

We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.

We did this the whole primary and it worked.

Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc.

This surprisingly has had a huge suppressing movement and vote turnout issues.

Next, we infiltrate all the blogs and all the youtube videos and overwhelm the voting, the comments, etc. All to continue this appearance of overwhelming world support.

People makes posts to the effect that the world has “gone mad”

Thats the intention. To make you feel stressed and crazy and feel like the world is ending.

We have also had quite a hand in skewing many many polls, some we couldn’t control as much as we would have liked. But many we have spoiled over. Just enough to make real clear politics look scarey to a mccain supporter. Its worked, alough the goal was to appear 13-15 points ahead.

see, the results have been working. People tend to support a winner, go with the flow, become “sheeple”

The polls are roughly 3-5 points in favor of Barack. Thats due to our inflation of the polls and pulling in the sheeple.

Our donors, are the same people who finance the MSM. Their interests are tied, Barack then tends to come across as teflon. Nothing sticks. And trust, there were meetings with Fox news. The goal was to blunt them as much as possible. Watch Bill Oreilly he has become much more diplomatic and “fair and balanced” and soft. Its because he wants to retain the #1 spot on cable news and to do that he has to have access to the Obama campaign and we worked hard at stringing him a long and keeping him soft for an interview swap. It worked and now he is anticipating more access. So he is playing it still soft.

This is why nothing sticks.

The operation is massive, the goal is to paint a picture that is that of a winner, regardless of the results.

There is no true inauguration draft or true grant park construction going on. There will be a party, but we are boasting beyond the truth to make it seem like the election is wrapped up.

Our goal is to continue to make you lose your moral. We worked hard at persuasion and paying off and timing and playing the right political numbers to get key republican endorsements to make it seem even more like it was over and the world was coming to an end for you all.

There is a huge staff of people working around the clock, watching every site, blogs, etc. We flood these sites. We have had a goal to overwhelm.

The truth is here. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

I am saying this because I know HRC was better for the country, and now realize this. I was too late by the time I connected to her. To me Barack was just a cool young dude that seemed like a star. I didn’t know him or his policies, but now I understand more than I care to and I realize his interests are more for him, and the DNC and all working like puppets with dean. I always thought a president wanted the better good for the country. The end result I see is everyone dependent on the government, this means more and more people voting for the DNC. This means the future is forever altered. I don’t see this as america, so I am now supporting John Mccain.

Sarah Palin is a huge threat, and our campaign has feared her like you can’t imagine. If it seems unfair how she has been treated, well its because she has had a team working round the clock to make her look like a fool.

this is a big conspiracy and I am so shocked that its not realized.

We released a little blurb the other day that the Obama campaign was already working on reelection and now putting our efforts towards 2012. This was to make it seem like it was above us to continue caring about 2008. Trust me, its a lie. David is very smart, but its a sticky ugly not very truthful kind of intelligence.

Its not over yet, but I think the machine is working. And its a hill to climb.

I will be quitting my post on nov 5th and my vote will be for John Mccain. Fortunately, my position has been a marketing position and I don’t feel I had any part of anything I would feel guilty for. But I look forward to getting out of this as the negativity and environment upsets me.

I wish you all well, and goodluck.

PS my name is not really sarah. but I am a female and I understand your plight.

[biknut]

NBC/Mason Dixon Poll: Pennsylvania BO 47, McCain 43, Undecided 9%, Statistical TIE 10/30/08

NBC is as credible a source as two cats with tin cans tied together with string, sitting on the radiator, eating cheeseburgers.

They’ve consistently thrown polls to Obama throughout the primaries, and overestimated his support against Hillary Clinton in Pennsylvania by wide margins.

NBC was one of the polls that had “Dear Leader” winning Pennsylvania by 8 points against Clinton — a favorite poll to cite by Eeyores who wanted to cry into their oatmeal every morning, moaning, “Doomed! Doomed! We’re all DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!”.

Big babies.

Clinton won Pennsylvania by 10 points.

We believe John McCain will win the state by 5…the first Republican to do so in a generation.

NBC is using an incorrect party ID breakdown that overpolls Democrats; this means the new poll they released showing a statistical tie in Pennsylvania is probably polling 45% Dem, 25% Republican and 30% Independent — when the actual numbers should be 39% Dem, 35% Republican, and 26% Independent.

That means John McCain is probably ahead in Pennsylvania right now — hence Obama’s sudden and bewildered return to a state the media claimed he sewed up ages ago. Hence Gov. Rendell’s sweating bullets. Hence the wonderful development of Rep. Murtha very likely losing his seat (we will never support any politician who speaks ill of the United States Marines. We don’t care who you are: you badmouth boots on the ground and you’re no longer someone we can ever support. God Bless our Marines. We wish the polar opposite on Murtha).

When McCain field offices in the Pittsburgh area are being staffed by DEMOCRATS working nonstop to elect a Republican, well, you better believe Obama’s going to lose the Keystone State.

[suspire]

Wow man. Just wow. I think you've really gone off the deep end. I am just sorta, bewildered. Any hold on reality has been lost.

The only thing I would agree, from all of this waaaaay, waaay, I mean, seriously, waaaay out there conspiracy theory stuff is, yes, the polls may be wrong. Mostly due to the Bradley Effect. The polls in the Obama/Clinton campaign were the same. But some sort of massive conspiracy on all levels, with media corps working for Obama (over the ESTABLISHMENT Clinton?), etc, etc--wow. Yeah. Okay. Wow.

Um, and we've been infiltrated, too? The Obama Campaign has sent in "rats" to infiltrate Imminst in order to...uh, sow discord and uh, win the votes of, uh, the Imminst readers who bother to come to this forum for the...political discussions? Uh...really? Woa. Yeah, okay.

I suspect I might be one of the "rats" put on trial by our reborn McCarthy, but who the hell knows. Next I'll be labeled "un-American" and "un-patriotic".

This is like, lalalalalala land out there. I think this blows my mind even more than the birth certificate stuff.

You guys must be really desperate.

And that is comforting to me.

Edited by suspire, 01 November 2008 - 01:00 AM.

[biknut]

Florida Turns Into Huge McCain-Palin Gains
Published by AJStrata at 12:00 am under 2008 Elections, All General Discussions

If early voting in Florida is any indication what will happen across this country come next Tuesday (and there is little reason to assume it will be some crazy outlier well outside the norm) then Obama and the Dems are going to be getting a lesson from the American voters. They are the lead incumbent party in a country where 90% think the country is off track. And how America feels about them and Obama is showing in some early polling of early voters:

Democrats are beaming that their party is outperforming the Republicans in early voting, releasing numbers Wednesday that show registrants of their party ahead 54 percent to 30 percent among the 1.4 million voters who have gone to the polls early.

“We’re thrilled at the record turnout so far,” said Democratic Party of Florida spokesman Eric Jotkoff. “It’s a clear indication that Democrats want to elect Barack Obama and Democrats up and down the ballot so that we can start creating good jobs, rebuilding our economy and getting our nation back on track.”

But party breakdowns for turnout aren’t the same as final tallies, and at least one poll offered a different view for the campaign of Republican John McCain.

A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll gave McCain a 49-45 lead over Democrat Barack Obama among Floridians who have already voted.

And Republicans continued to show a traditional strength, leading 50 percent to the Democrats’ 30 percent in the 1.2 million absentee ballots already returned.

Democrats have an almost 2 to 1 advantage in numbers, yet McCain leads in the vote totals. RCP has Obama up 3.5% in Florida - totally opposite this massive wave of early voting. According to a GMU site monitoring early polling Florida is already seeing almost 34% of the total 2004 vote for Florida - stunning. And the advantage for Dems on this site is 45.4% to 39% (including absentee). So with a really high 6.4% advantage in turnout Obama is losing by 4%. That is some massive defection numbers away from Obama. And it would seem a large turnout is not a bad thing at all for McCain-Palin, since it will swamp the Obama strengths in certain demographics.

If this is an indication of things to come, the liberals are in for a rough week. H/T Reader Archtop and Wizbang

[biknut]

Wow man. Just wow. This is like, lalalalalala land out there. I think this blows.

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I'm sure you do.

You'll be outta a job after tuesday ya spook. hahahaha

Edited by biknut, 01 November 2008 - 01:15 AM.

[biknut]

SHOCKER: Team Hillary believes McCain will win New Hampshire, Iowa, and MAINE

Tonight’s been a busy night, in that we’ve talked to a half dozen people on three times as many subjects - including Team Hillary members in New Hampshire and Maine, who we know well from the primaries.

Here’s the kicker: these people aren’t McCain supporters. Several are working for Obama now in both states, because they have political jobs and thus must tow the party line. Others are voting Green and no longer campaigning for anyone, but are tuned into things in their states.

We know nothing about New Hampshire or Maine and have never pretended to. We won’t start now. All we’ll tell you is what these people told us tonight, and it’s that they truly do expect John McCain to win both New Hampshire and Maine next week, for the reasons they gave below:

(1) In both states, they have never seen an enthusiasm deficit for Democrats like this. Hillary Democrats there say there are more “closet McCain supporters” than anyone can count. Despite what the media says, people are not enthused and fired up to go out and vote for Obama — quite the contrary: people are scare of Obama’s policies and will be voting McCain. The enthusiasm deficit in both New Hampshire and Maine is “as clear as day” according to those we spoke to tonight. They say they do not see anywhere near the level of Obama signs, stickers, buttons, etc. out this year, as they did Kerry, Gore, Clinton, and even Dukakis gear in years past. They say this is actually shocking, because it should be everywhere, but no one cares enough to put those signs out. No one can use the excuse that there’s not enough money for signs and stickers: Obama’s campaign is supposedly rolling in dough, so why aren’t New Hampshire and Maine blanketed in Obama signs? Because people don’t want them in their yards and won’t be voting for him.

(2) We asked why people in these states are not voting for Obama and were told that in Maine, especially, a lot of it has to do with Joe the Plumber and redistributing the wealth. Much of Maine makes its living off the sea: fishermen pull in $200,000 or more a year in family businesses. Joe Biden’s slip that Obama really intends to define “wealthy” as $150,000 a year or above sent terror through Maine’s fishing community and other small business industries. We were told tonight that Maine and New Hampshire have more small family businesses that would be affected by Obama’s redistribution of wealth than we could imagine. Joe the Plumber resonated with these people — especially the fishermen. Todd Palin was recently dispatched to Maine in what the media claimed was an attempt to score one electoral college vote for Maine: tonight we were told it looks like McCain will win the whole state, not just that one congessional district.

(3) Sarah Palin was the smartest move John McCain could ever have made — she is playing incredibly well in Maine and New Hampshire, two states made up of mostly small towns, all of whom are outdoorsy and have traditions of female mayors, council members, and other high elected officials. Maine has two female United States Senators. That honestly never occured to us until now, but it does make a lot of sense. We knew Hillary Clinton would never win Iowa in the primaries because Iowa’s never elected a woman to high office — Maine has. Many, many times. People relate to Palin and trust John McCain. They like these candidates — while Obama in an unknown whose relationships and judgment make people uneasy. Add the socialism business to the top of this, and we’re told it moves New Hampshire and Maine into the red column.

Edited by biknut, 01 November 2008 - 01:35 AM.

[suspire]

Wow man. Just wow. This is like, lalalalalala land out there. I think this blows.

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I'm sure you do.

You'll be outta a job after tuesday ya spook. hahahaha

Wow. Way to re-arrange my quote to serve your purposes. You have degenerated into a five year old.

It is sad in a way, because I know you're supposedly in your 50s or some such, but in another way, it's just incredibly amusing.

And yes! The Obama Campaign is sending paid super sekrit agents into a life-extension community, where most people come to discuss, well, um, life extension, in order to sow disinformation and chaos on its...political forums!

This is actually pretty awesome. I am actually quite flattered.

And you, well, you've just become a punch line at my next party.

[Zenob]

Biknut is supposed to be in his 50s?!? I thought he was like 16 or something. Good grief...

[suspire]

Biknut is supposed to be in his 50s?!? I thought he was like 16 or something. Good grief...

Yeah. I know. I mean, it could be a case of undiagnosed(or perhaps diagnosed) paranoid delusional psychosis, but I don't know and I don't care. I shouldn't laugh, but I can't help it--he's such a hateful old man, who spews nothing but vile, horrible accusations and labels people as "patriots" or "traitors" depending on their political beliefs, that well hey, he reaps what he sows.

Edited by suspire, 01 November 2008 - 02:34 AM.

[biknut]

suspire, Zenob = Nobama trolls

[biknut]

Just a guy that lives in my neighborhood

Edited by biknut, 01 November 2008 - 02:22 AM.

[biknut]

Republicans, this is directed at you. Hillary’s Army remains strong, and committed to putting McCain/Palin in the White House. Do not listen to the media. Ignore the trolls. Corral your Eeyores and put them on the endangered species list. Because by our most conservative estimate, you’re going to get 4 million Hillocrats on your side next week, with roughly another 3 million Democrats who voted for Kerry staying home or throwing their votes to McKinney or Nader. That’s 7 million votes Obama has lost from lifelong Democrats — because we love this country more than Republicans have ever given us credit for.

This is the greatest nation on Earth and we Democrats never fail to wake each morning deeply thankful and grateful for the opportunities we have here. We know what socialism is, and know we want no part of this here. Obama’s mission is to weaken this country and put us under the thumb of the UN, like a European socialist state. That’s not what we want.

We will fight tooth and nail to stop him. We’ve sunk everything we have into this — because McCain/Palin are worth it. We believe they will serve this country well, and will work with our champ, the new lion of the Senate, Hillary Clinton, to make us energy independent, to secure good solid jobs for all Americans, and to strengthen and grow our economy in a world stressed and tried in these times.

We do not intend for this alliance to be of only this moment — we’ve worked alongside all of you for months now and see we all have more in common than we ever had apart. We will never agree on everything, but let’s all start with our love of country. Our pride in America. Our willingness to work hard together to give everyone opportunities — not hand outs. Europe calls Obama’s plans socialism. We call it welfare. Obama says this is change. We paraphrase the McCain campaign because, much to our initial surprise, Clinton Democrats find more in common with McCain/Palin than we do the socialists the current Democratic Party revealed itself to be.

So, all of us centrists stand strongly with you. Please work hard in every way you can this last week. Join us in Ohio if you can — or in Pennsylvania, Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin, or Virginia. Let’s make sure socialism is defeated once and for all.

We can do this together. If we work hard, we will win. And after our victory, we will work hard to find other commonalities going forward.

Of this, we promise you, our new friends.

Elephants and pumas together, now and going forward.

Via FreeRepublic

A poll was conducted back In June 2008, and it found that the number of Hillary supporters that were going to vote for Obama was 58%, with 28% going to vote for McCain. The rest were undecided.

In September, another poll was conducted, and it found that things were unchanged for Obama. This poll found that the percentages were still 58% going to vote for Obama and 28% going to vote for for McCain, with the remainder still undecided.

If the remainder ends up splitting evenly, that will give McCain 35% of Hillary supporters that will vote for him and 65% for Obama.

18 million people voted for Hillary in the Democratic primaries. 35% of those 18 million voting for McCain on Nov. 4th, 2008, will translate into about 6.4 million votes for McCain - votes that Obama will not get - and would have gotten had he chosen Hillary as his veep.

This may account for why the MSM pollsters have skewed their polls and rampantly oversampled Dems, and undersampled Repubs - along with tainting their polls with extra blacks and college students being polled.

6 million plus axtra voters for McCain…

[biknut]

Another lifelong Democrat explains why she’s voting for McCain/Palin

So Long, Democrats - By Wendy Button
A speechwriter for Obama, Edwards, and Clinton on why she’s voting McCain.

VIA TheDailyBeast

Since I started writing speeches more than ten years ago, I have always believed in the Democratic Party. Not anymore. Not after the election of 2008. This transformation has been swift and complete and since I’m a woman writing in the election of 2008, “very emotional.”

When I entered this campaign, it was at the 2006 Edwards staff Christmas party. My nametag read “Millie Worker.” When former Senator John Edwards read it, he laughed and said, “That makes you like my parent.” He went on to say, “Would you please come down to Chapel Hill so we can talk about what’s coming up.” I sat in John and Elizabeth’s living room for two and half hours. I left North Carolina, energized about politics for the first time in months.

I didn’t hear from anyone for three weeks.

When I finally received the official offer, it was the kind of political offer that said, “Go away.” That happens. It’s their campaign and I just assumed that I had been pushed out. The problem was that I had canceled a number of freelance writing jobs because I had assumed that when John said, “Start right away” I would. I needed a job right away and so I took the one in front of me with Senator Barack Obama.

When we first met, Obama and I had a nice conversation about speeches and writing, and at the end of the meeting I handed him a pocket-sized bottle of Grey Poupon mustard so he wouldn’t have to ask staff if it was okay to put it on his hamburger. At the bottom of the bottle was the logo for “The South Beach Diet” and he snapped, “Oh so you read People magazine.” He seemed to think that I was commenting on his bathing suit picture.

I helped with his announcement speech and others. I worked in the Senate when he was in D.C. One day after a hearing on Darfur, we were walking back to the office. I was still hobbling from a very bad ankle injury and in a very kind and gentle way he offered his arm when we approached the stairs. But later in debate preps and phone conversations and meetings, I realized that I had made a mistake. I didn’t belong. No matter how hard I tried, my heart wasn’t in it anymore.

See campaigns get complicated when you’ve written for so many Democrats. Not only had I written for Senator Edwards, but I had also been Senator Hillary Clinton’s speechwriter. Senator Joe Biden is a “good looking” man and his care after my father almost died from an aneurysm is the kind of kindness you never forget. When I saw Edwards at a traffic light in D.C. about a year after our meeting, he asked for help and I did and it was an honor to help him with his concession speech. And when the primary ended, it was a privilege to help Michelle Obama with a stump speech, be considered as a speechwriter for the V.P. nominee again, and send friends in Chicago ideas until the financial crisis hit. This is what the Democratic Party has been for me; it’s family. Now, it doesn’t even feel like a distant cousin.

This drift started on a personal level with the fall of former Senator John Edwards. It got stronger during the Democratic National Convention when I counted the substantive mentions of poverty on one hand and a whole bunch of bad canned partisan lines against Senator John McCain. Some faith was lifted after Senator Hillary Clinton’s grace during a difficult hour. But that faith was dashed when I saw that someone had raided the Caligula set and planted the old columns at Invesco Field.

The final straw came the other week when Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher (a.k.a Joe the Plumber) asked a question about higher taxes for small businesses. Instead of celebrating his aspirations, they were mocked. He wasn’t “a real plumber,” and “They’re fighting for Joe the Hedge-Fund manager,” and the patronizing, “I’ve got nothing but love for Joe the Plumber.”

Having worked in politics, I know that absolutely none of this is on the level. This back and forth is posturing, a charade, and a political game. These lines are what I refer to as “hooker lines”—a sure thing to get applause and the press to scribble as if they’re reporting meaningful news.

As the nation slouches toward disaster, the level of political discourse is unworthy of this moment in history. We have Republicans raising Ayers and Democrats fostering ageism with “erratic” and jokes about Depends. Sexism. Racism. Ageism and maybe some Socialism have all made their ugly cameos in election 2008. It’s not inspiring. Perhaps this is why I found the initial mocking of Joe so offensive and I realized an old line applied: “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party; the Democratic Party left me.”

The party I believed in wouldn’t look down on working people under any circumstance. And Joe the Plumber is right. This is the absolutely worst time to raise taxes on anyone: the rich, the middle class, the poor, small businesses and corporations.

Our economy is in the tank for many complicated reasons, especially because people don’t have enough money. So let them keep it. Let businesses keep it so they can create jobs and stay here and weather this storm. And yet, the Democratic ideology remains the same. Our approach to problems—big government solutions paid for by taxing the rich and big and smaller companies—is just as tired and out of date as trickle down economics. How about a novel approach that simply finds a sane way to stop the bleeding?

That’s not exactly the philosophy of a Democrat. Not only has this party belittled working people in this campaign from Joe the Plumber to the bitter comments, it has also been part of tearing down two female candidates. At first, certain Democrats and the press called Senator Clinton “dishonest.” They went after her cleavage. They said her experience as First Lady consisted of having tea parties. There was no outrage over “Bros before Hoes” or “Iron My Shirt.” Did Senator Clinton make mistakes? Of course. She’s human.

But here we are about a week out and it’s déjà vu all over again. Really, front-page news is how the Republican National Committee paid for Governor Sarah Palin’s wardrobe? Where’s the op-ed about how Obama tucks in his shirt when he plays basketball or how Senator Biden buttons the top button on his golf shirt?

Oh right, this story goes to the sincerity of her Hockey Mom persona. What planet am I living on? Everyone knows that when it comes to appearance, there’s a double standard for women politicians. Remember the speech Speaker Pelosi gave on the floor the day of the bailout vote? Check out how many stories commented on her hair that day and how many mentioned Congressman Barney Frank’s.

Here we are discussing Governor Palin’s clothes—oh wait, now we’re on to the make-up—not what either man is going to do to save our economy. This isn’t an accident. It is part of a manufactured narrative that she is stupid.

Governor Palin and I don’t agree on a lot of things, mostly social issues. But I have grown to appreciate the Governor. I was one of those initial skeptics and would laugh at the pictures. Not anymore. When someone takes on a corrupt political machine and a sitting governor, that is not done by someone with a low I.Q. or a moral core made of tissue paper. When someone fights her way to get scholarships and work her way through college even in a jagged line, that shows determination and humility you can’t learn from reading Reinhold Niebuhr. When a mother brings her son with special needs onto the national stage with love, honesty, and pride, that gives hope to families like mine as my older brother lives with a mental disability. And when someone can sit on a stage during the Sarah Palin rap on Saturday Night Live, put her hands in the air and watch someone in a moose costume get shot—that’s a sign of both humor and humanity.

Has she made mistakes? Of course, she’s human too. But the attention paid to her mistakes has been unprecedented compared to Senator Obama’s “57 states” remarks or Senator Biden using a version of the Samuel Johnson quote, “There’s nothing like a hanging in the morning to focus a man’s thoughts.”

But thank God for election 2008. We can talk about the wardrobe and make-up even though most people don’t understand the details about Senator Obama’s plan with Iraq. When he says, “all combat troops,” he’s not talking about all troops—it leaves a residual force of as large as 55,000 indefinitely. That’s not ending the war; that’s half a war.

I was dead wrong about the surge and thought it would be a disaster. Senator John McCain led when many of us were ready to quit. Yet we march on as if nothing has changed, wedded to an old plan, and that too is a long way from the Democratic Party.

I can no longer justify what this party has done and can’t dismiss the treatment of women and working people as just part of the new kind of politics. It’s wrong and someone has to say that. And also say that the Democratic Party’s talking points—that Senator John McCain is just four more years of the same and that he’s President Bush—are now just hooker lines that fit a very effective and perhaps wave-winning political argument…doesn’t mean they’re true. After all, he is the only one who’s worked in a bipartisan way on big challenges.

Before I cast my vote, I will correct my party affiliation and change it to No Party or Independent. Then, in the spirit of election 2008, I’ll get a manicure, pedicure, and my hair done. Might as well look pretty when I am unemployed in a city swimming with “D’s.”

Whatever inspiration I had in Chapel Hill two years ago is gone. When people say how excited they are about this election, I can now say, “Maybe for you. But I lost my home.”

[biknut]

Today, HillBuzz did an interview with a local Chicago media outlet. The reporter was great, doing a story on McCain winning states Democrats and the media claim will go to Obama. We talked about Ohio and Pennsylvania and our ongoing efforts there.

At the end of the interview, the reporter just talked casually with us on a personal level. We got onto the topic of the media and told her we don’t think the MSM will exist in its current form in 4 years — in particular, we told her we’re 100% sure MSNBC will be off the air by the next presidential election.

We’re stunned to report this here — but this journalist said we were RIGHT.

She believes MSNBC’s very survival is tied to an Obama win: they have so shamelessly shilled for him that when he loses to McCain, that’s it for MSNBC. Their credibility will be completely blown because, when the dust settles, people will ask “Why did Democrats lose in a year Democrats couldn’t lose?”, and the obvious answer will be the media’s pushing for Obama’s candidacy.

Our long range goal at HillBuzz is to take down MSNBC — we’d love to see NBC itself go under, but know that’s not realistic. Working together, Democrats and Republicans can, however, drive MSNBC out of business. We’re focused on victory for McCain/Palin right now, but to clue you in on what we intend to do past November 5th, we want to be part of a massive bipartisan effort to pressure all of MSNBC’s sponsors to drop the network — because there is no place for an Obama propaganda channel in the American political discourse, especially not one pretending to be a news outlet.

But, according to the reporter we spoke with today, we actually won’t have to do much to see this happen.

Because it’s ALREADY HAPPENING.

People aren’t getting information from the MSM as much anymore. Currently, the ratings are inflated with Obama supporters tuned in to hear good news about their Dear Leader. That’s why the media pushes polls skewed to Obama: they want to make his followers happy, because his followers are some of the only people left watching and believing in them anymore.

In fairytales, some monsters only existed and held power if little children believed in them; when the kids grew up and thought critically for themselves, they tuned all of that garbage out. POOF! No more MSNBC! If Eeyores could just stop watching the MSM, and MSNBC in particular, we could all hasten their destruction and serve up just desserts for the media’s role in creating the ObaMessiah.

We believe the media’s a big part of why Obama’s going to lose next week: Americans do not want to live in a country with state TV. That’s what they have in North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, China, and other places Americans don’t aspire to emulate. State TV’s what they had in the old Soviet Union. And remember how great that junkpile was? Whether they are talking about it or not, Americans have a gut instinct that an Obama win means 4 long years of Obama-worship and cries of RACISM! at anyone daring to challenge his administration. Free speech would be eliminated, because any opinions or thoughts contrary to Obama’s mandate would no longer be permissable, as such critical thinking would be RACIST! in nature, as it opposes Obama.

We’d become a socialist, controlled, police state under Dear Leader. A nation of cowtowed RACISTS! never thinking for ourselves, only doing as the Dear Leader tells us.

Americans do not want that.

We do not need an American Goebbels in the form of MSNBC.

No thanks!

We were STUNNED to hear a journalist actually admit as much. While she didn’t get into what we said above, she listened politely and told us she personally expects even the NY Times to be out of business in the next ten years — at least out of business in its current form. All news will end up online, electronic, with papers going the way of the dinosaurs and independent, citizen journalists taking the place of Obama shills like MSNBC, the NYT, CNN, and others.

She agreed that part of the reason the media is working so hard to elect Obama is that his loss next week will be their loss. The MSM knows it can’t survive indefinitely, but they’re trying to avert a complete and total collapse in the near term. A win for Obama gives them 4 years as state TV, more likely than not receiving subsidies from an Obama administration to prop these dinosaurs up, so long as they continue to wax poetically about how much they love him.

How much they love their Dear Leader.

Scary stuff…and we don’t know if it’s a good thing or a bad thing that actual journalists see this too and agree with us. Good in the sense that our instincts are right, which bodes well for our other instincts about PA and OH. But, bad in the sense that we truly are closer to a socialist dictatorship in this country than we ever thought possible in America — and it was largely orchestrated by the mainstream media for self-serving business reasons.

The question we’re posing today is not what the media’s going to say when Obama loses next week — because we can imagine all the shock and pants-wetting to come — but how exactly these media dinosaurs will say goodnight, forever, when all of the Eeyores and other gullible souls finally stop believing in them and TURN THOSE TELEVISIONS OFF.

[biknut]

October 26 Th 2008

But today there is a 3rd indicator from early voting that things are just not going Obama’s way, and this time it is from deep blue California:

The results are simply shocking. The polls showed Barack Obama with an 18 point lead in California just a few days ago. The results thus far are the complete opposite. In the most liberal state in the entire country,the results are that 99,000 Republicans have voted and 96,000 Democrats voted. In the mail-in balloting the results so far are that 9,000 Democrats sent in their ballots and that 5,000 Republicans did so. So with nearly 210,000 people having voted,the Democrats have only a 1,000 vote advantage !

If we take the liberty of assuming that all Republicans will vote for John McCain and all Democrats will vote for Obama,then the race is incredibly close. I’m sure that Obama will eventually win in California,but if he is struggling here after he pushed so hard for early voting,then he will lose the election ! Everybody thought he would win California in a landslide,but so far anyway,it’s very tight. That means that in the less liberal states he is in real trouble.

This election is all about turnout. And I confess Obama’s crowds of 150,000 in MO and 100,000 in Denver has me worried he might pull this off. But there may be an equal force out there, a very quiet but very large and very much determined to vote against Obama. And if that is true, then Obama will not win. If there is a fight in CA in early voting, then there will be a fight across this land.

[biknut]

Hey Eeyores: another take on those polls

October 25, 2008

VIA VirginiaVirtuacon
I was having dinner a night ago with a friend of mine who is a statistician for a well-regarded private polling company. They do some work for Republicans in California, but most of the work they do is for Democrats or Democrat-leaning operations (Unions, etc.). Anyway, her shop was retained to do a few Presidential polls for targetted states on behalf of a union so the union could decide where to spend their ad dollars for the last week. They did Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Missouri. After mocking the hell out of the voter id spreads used by Rassmussen, Zogby, etc. (and this is coming from a committed Dem who will be voting for Barry O) she said the results of their polling lead her to believe that McCain will definitely win FL, OH, NC, MO and NV. She says Obama definitely wins New Mexico. She said that Colorado and New Hampshire were absolute dead heats. She said she thinks there is a 55% chance Obama holds on in Pennsylvania and a 75% chance McCain wins Virginia. She absolutely laughed at the public polls showing Obama leading Virginia–and pointed out that all of those polls rely on Dem turnout being +4 and as much as +7, when in 2006, Republicans actually had the advantage by +3. She also pointed out that the numbers for Obama in SWVA look absolutely awful and that McCain is running 10 points better then Allen did in NoVa.

Anyway, her companies conclusion is that the election will come down to Colorado, New Hampshire and the Republican leaning district in Maine, which in her opinion might very well decide the Presidency (apparently the district in Nebraska that Obama thought he might be able to get is now off the table). She said she has very little doubt that the public polling is part of a “concerted voter suppression effort” by the MSM. She said IBD/TIPP was the only outfit doing public polling that was “worth a bucket of warm piss”.