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[Delorean]

Just spotted this on the tv listings.

8pm Live forever

Michael Nicholson investigates the life extension industry, and the claims that advances in medical science are on the verge of increasing our lifespan beyond 1000 years.

[futureofscience]

Just spotted this on the tv listings.

8pm Live forever

Michael Nicholson investigates the life extension industry, and the claims that advances in medical science are on the verge of increasing our lifespan beyond 1000 years.

I'd just come on to post about this!

Link here:

http://www.itv.com/P...46/default.html



I'll try and see if I can upload a copy of it somewhere.

[Matt]

My mum just phoned me up 15 minutes into the program telling me it was on. Apparently it will be online soon (at least for those in the UK). It owuld be good if we can get the complete episode up on youtube or google. I seen the growth hormone part (bs)... Aubrey had a good interview and got his point across well. The cryonics part was good too. Was there a part on Calorie Restriction? I did notice the Tonight show sign up to the Calorie Restriction Facebook group a little while back, no idea who they got to interview (if anyone).

The guy who done the investigation seemed quite negative towards the possibility of L.E.

[Matt]

Calorie Restriction part;
David is 51 but I thought he was much younger, maybe 38 - 40 or something. He claims to have been on CR for almost 20 years, I don't know whether to believe this or not, and he only looks mildly CR'd too. Still, not bad for his age! At least he has his hair lol.

Edited by Matt, 14 November 2008 - 09:22 PM.

[Cyberbrain]

Somebody please record this episode, thnx!

[VictorBjoerk]

Could someone post the clip here?

[futureofscience]

Here we go:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JU4M2S8B

[Forever21]

not downloading
even w/ software

anyone pls upload this to youtube

[Johan]

Would it be possible to upload it to something other than Megaupload? It doesn't seem to agree with me.

[Matt]

Worked for me... Did you type in the letters then press download??? Then you just choose free server and the countdown will begin for when you can download it.

[Forever21]

yes
yes

didn't work

[Johan]

Same here. It says that I've "exceeded the download limit", even though it was a long time since I last used Megaupload.

[VictorBjoerk]

worked for me....

[kenj]

http://www.uploading...FT/liv.wmv.html

I uploaded it to a crappy upload site (speed restriction). Any smooth alternative?

Thanks for the original upload BTW.

EDIT: I'll try another, we've all grown old and fatigued before uploading.com's 11kb/s have finished.

Edited by kenj, 17 November 2008 - 03:03 PM.

[kenj]

liv.wmv

Another.

[Heliotrope]

liv.wmv

Another.

thanks, tried megaupload. even downloaded the software and megaupload toolbar, but exceeded limit. this is a nice online streaming of the show. listening as i'm doing my homework

[Shannon Vyff]

How good is the show?

[Forever21]

A waste of time. Don't bother.

Edited by Forever21, 18 November 2008 - 02:37 PM.

[Matt]

It was generally a very poor investigation by the reporter.

[Mind]

I just downloaded it. Based on the reviews, I think I'll just pass on watching it.

[futureofscience]

It was generally a very poor investigation by the reporter.

Indeed. The Tonight show isn't know for its journalistic prowess.

It could have been so much more, but then again, maybe by being on here I'm a tad biased anyway.

I just hope that maybe someone watched it and was sufficiently interested to find out a bit more.

[Johan]

I don't think the show itself was very good -- it mostly seemed to be concerned with debunking the growth hormone ideas -- but I was impressed by David Fisher, the CR practicioner in the program. He looked a good deal younger than 51 (I would say somewhere in his 30s, if I didn't know his real age). Does anyone know more about him?

Edited by Johan, 19 November 2008 - 09:32 AM.

[Matt]

Not much, I don't think he participates here or in the CRS List, he might be on the facebook CR group and is himself on facebook but not sure if he's active on there. Google might bring up some articles on his particular CR lifestyle. As you said, before the guy actually said his age I was genuinely surprised when he said 51.

Edited by Matt, 17 December 2008 - 02:23 AM.

[Johan]

He seems to be mentioned in this article:

David Fisher, who has flown over from Berkshire, says he had a fear of death from an early age. “I used to lie in bed worrying about it,” he says. There were no parental deaths to trigger his dread, no nasty incidents with Fido and a Ford. His fear of death is something he describes as “totally logical”. “Because aging happens over time, people don’t think about it until it’s too late. Maybe our only difference is an inability to put our heads in the sand,” he says. Within the next 30 or 40 years, Fisher’s convinced there is a 50/50 chance that the “problem” of ageing will be solved – and he’s determined to be around to see it. He’s dedicated to the task. He has been on CR for about 15 years and now eats 1,600 calories a day. He tells me he’s 50. He looks 40 or younger until I really start staring. Does he dye his hair? What about the eyelashes? But I’m being mean.

The fact is, he looks a lot healthier than me.

[Matt]

There are always different calorie intakes and years on the diet in the media. I'm not sure why, is it the reporters or the CRers changing the dates? Anyway, I think as you can tell from most articles everyone that goes on CR seems to 'look' like they're aging much slower.

Article http://forums.jpfitn...orie-diets.html

Benjamin "Nick" Colby, 72, [this was in 2004] of Irvine, Calif., started restricting his calorie consumption 10 years ago. He aims to eat 1,400 to 1,500 calories per day. That's a level at which he neither loses nor gains weight, Colby said.

Article you shared stated

"I have sat next to Nick Colby, a University of California anthropology professor. “You’re a participant observer,” he says, raising an eyebrow. “How are you enjoying it?” Colby is 5ft 9in, 130 lb and 76 years old. He looks 10 years younger. He’s not interested in living for ever. “I want to live as long as possible – who doesn’t? – but more importantly, I want to be healthy doing it.” He eats normally. He says he feels great. Struggling to keep up on the walk back to the conference hall, I can suddenly see the appeal of CR"

Edited by Matt, 17 December 2008 - 08:04 AM.

[VictorBjoerk]

who's struggling, Nick Colby or the author?

[VictorBjoerk]

who's struggling, Nick Colby or the author?

[brokenportal]

Interesting, I hadnt seen this.

One good thing about it, even if it was just mostly about debunking hormones or something like that, is that its a growing indicator that the media is more and more willing to cover this angle.

So not only is getting the research for this done as simple as informing the world, which we can do in five or so years, but not only is it as simple as informing them, but they are coming out and asking us to inform them. So make sure, when you get interviewed for this, when you have the chance to speak about this, or get the word out, that you talk about defeating the forms of cellular damage that cause us to age to death through strategies like sens, the evolutionary angle on it, and others we are working to develop.

[Teixeira]

Interesting, I hadnt seen this.

One good thing about it, even if it was just mostly about debunking hormones or something like that, is that its a growing indicator that the media is more and more willing to cover this angle.

So not only is getting the research for this done as simple as informing the world, which we can do in five or so years, but not only is it as simple as informing them, but they are coming out and asking us to inform them. So make sure, when you get interviewed for this, when you have the chance to speak about this, or get the word out, that you talk about defeating the forms of cellular damage that cause us to age to death through strategies like sens, the evolutionary angle on it, and others we are working to develop.

In my opinion, science can never produce an immortal body. It can improve live and extendet it and nothing else. To produce an immortal body it is needed a diferent metodology that produces absolutely diferent results, that ara outside the possibilities of science.

[CerebralCortex]

In my opinion, science can never produce an immortal body. It can improve live and extendet it and nothing else. To produce an immortal body it is needed a diferent metodology that produces absolutely diferent results, that ara outside the possibilities of science.

Well I'm glad that in the greater scheme of things your opinion doesn't count.

It can improve live and extendet it and nothing else.

<sarcasm>You have such vision, you must be a well respected member of the scientific community!<sarcasm>

To produce an immortal body it is needed a diferent metodology that produces absolutely diferent results, that ara outside the possibilities of science.

I'm guessing you're religious, probably a Christian.