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#1 needhelptostudy

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 04:04 AM


Hey all,

I'm looking for a product that helps with memory and focus, and i found a few online (brain quicken, constant focus, and focus fast) Has anyone tried any of these? I'm loooking for feedback and what the difference are thanks.

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:21 AM

Hey all,

I'm looking for a product that helps with memory and focus, and i found a few online (brain quicken, constant focus, and focus fast) Has anyone tried any of these? I'm loooking for feedback and what the difference are thanks.


I have been here for over two years and after over 1000 posts, I am still looking for something "that works". Start wish fish oil and a good multi. That's about all I can recommend, but nothing astonishing otherwise everyone would be using it.

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 07:18 AM

Hey all,

I'm looking for a product that helps with memory and focus, and i found a few online (brain quicken, constant focus, and focus fast) Has anyone tried any of these? I'm loooking for feedback and what the difference are thanks.


Consider taking a B-Complex along with extra B12 (Methyl-Cobalamin)
Choline sources (Alpha-GPC, CDP-Choline) work quite well for me.
Vinpocetine improves blood flow to your brain.

For a quick boost, have you tried 5-hour energy ?

Question: do you have problems with focus, or are you looking for a boost ?

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 07:35 AM

What about more traditional Noots like Piracatem and deprenyl aren't they good for memory? How come no one has talked about them?

#5 needhelptostudy

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 08:05 AM

Hey all,

I'm looking for a product that helps with memory and focus, and i found a few online (brain quicken, constant focus, and focus fast) Has anyone tried any of these? I'm loooking for feedback and what the difference are thanks.


Consider taking a B-Complex along with extra B12 (Methyl-Cobalamin)
Choline sources (Alpha-GPC, CDP-Choline) work quite well for me.
Vinpocetine improves blood flow to your brain.

For a quick boost, have you tried 5-hour energy ?

Question: do you have problems with focus, or are you looking for a boost ?



Mainly focus, those ingredients you mentioned are found in focus fast (www.focusfast.com) ... I might give this a shot.

Hey all,

I'm looking for a product that helps with memory and focus, and i found a few online (brain quicken, constant focus, and focus fast) Has anyone tried any of these? I'm loooking for feedback and what the difference are thanks.


I have been here for over two years and after over 1000 posts, I am still looking for something "that works". Start wish fish oil and a good multi. That's about all I can recommend, but nothing astonishing otherwise everyone would be using it.


That is true, but at the same time there are always new products being released...

Edited by needhelptostudy, 15 November 2008 - 08:06 AM.


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Posted 15 November 2008 - 08:31 AM

Here's the problem with a proprietary blend.
Lots of times you don't know the exact composition.
If there are side effects, you won't know what causes them.

Instead I'd just start from the ground up, and build your own stack,
adding one thing at a time.

That way you'll figure out what works for you.

Personally speaking, I haven't had much benefit from those blends.

For instance how much Alpha-GPC is in the supplement you mention ?
Is it enough to do anything ? (something like 300mg/day is a reasonable dose)
It's really hard to say.

Also, the useful amount of Omega-3 is in the gram range.
I really doubt a few mg will do much.

Edited by rwac, 15 November 2008 - 08:38 AM.


#7 needhelptostudy

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 04:44 PM

Here's the problem with a proprietary blend.
Lots of times you don't know the exact composition.
If there are side effects, you won't know what causes them.

Instead I'd just start from the ground up, and build your own stack,
adding one thing at a time.

That way you'll figure out what works for you.

Personally speaking, I haven't had much benefit from those blends.

For instance how much Alpha-GPC is in the supplement you mention ?
Is it enough to do anything ? (something like 300mg/day is a reasonable dose)
It's really hard to say.

Also, the useful amount of Omega-3 is in the gram range.
I really doubt a few mg will do much.


Ah, I see what you mean, yeah I have no idea how much of each one is in there, but does it look like a good formula?

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 06:33 PM

What about more traditional Noots like Piracatem and deprenyl aren't they good for memory? How come no one has talked about them?


dfowler, you could talk about them, you know.

#9 needhelptostudy

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:27 PM

Well, I ordered Focus Fast http://www.focusfast.com and Brain Quicken www.brainquicken.com ... I'll post some updates!

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Posted 17 November 2008 - 10:49 PM

Well, I ordered Focus Fast http://www.focusfast.com and Brain Quicken www.brainquicken.com ... I'll post some updates!


Ingredients look pretty weak to me in them of the good stuff, looks like they've just thrown everything they can find in it in tiny doses ....all combined though could work well, let us know how it goes....

#11 needhelptostudy

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 12:52 AM

Well, I ordered Focus Fast http://www.focusfast.com and Brain Quicken www.brainquicken.com ... I'll post some updates!


Ingredients look pretty weak to me in them of the good stuff, looks like they've just thrown everything they can find in it in tiny doses ....all combined though could work well, let us know how it goes....


Yeah, I think that's the thing with these type of products... Rather than take a high mg amount of a few ingredients, you take literally dozens in smaller doses... The studies seem promising for sure. I'll be taking Focus Fast for the 1st week, then switch over to Brain Quicken... Then I'll post my reviews...

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:44 AM

That is true, but at the same time there are always new products being released...


Name one nootropic (not a formulation) that exists today that was not around 2 years ago. Nothing significant that I know of.

#13 needhelptostudy

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 05:08 PM

That is true, but at the same time there are always new products being released...


Name one nootropic (not a formulation) that exists today that was not around 2 years ago. Nothing significant that I know of.


I agree... Sorry, I meant formulation rather than nootropic.

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Posted 22 November 2008 - 09:54 PM

I agree... Sorry, I meant formulation rather than nootropic.


No, new formulations aren't coming out all the time. Its just the same old crap repackaged. Don't you find it funny that both of the formulas you purchased claim to be the "world's first"? Both of them are lackluster formulas. Like has been said before they just pack everything in that they can to make the ingredient list look good and hope that you have no idea what the effective dose is for any of those ingredients. Because in most cases you're taking a tenth of what you'd need to feel any kind of effect. They're just scams made by no-name, fly-by-night supplement companies. When they say they've been "featured in" all these magazines. It just means they've placed adds in them. And they just pay people at ivy league school to write those testimonials. And when you said the "studies seem promising", what studies were you referring to exactly? Hopefully not the one's advertised on their sites. Because when they say, "Active compounds in the patent-pending BrainQUICKEN complex are supported by clinical research and have been cited in over 4,050 scientific studies." I'm sure you're aware that none of those studies were actually run on their formula. And they neglect to tell you that those ingredients were studied in amounts far larger then they're giving you.

Anyway, its certainly worth taking them since you already bought them. But don't expect to get anything real out of them. I'm sure you'll feel great after you take them because the placebo affect and fear of buyer's remorse are powerful things. But you should probably try taking your nootropics individually before you spend money on any more pre-made formulas.




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