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[Ethan]

http
://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-....html?ITO=1490

[niner]

New Botox = Good Lighting?

[Ben]

New Botox = Good Lighting?

Or cosmetic laser?

[mustardseed41]

After hair looks better.

[kismet]

New Botox = Good Lighting?

Wrong! Lightning  *and* make-up.

[Ethan]

No. Not entirely anyway. There is better lighting. She has lost some weight and some snarl, but there is a noticable improvement in skin texture. Human dermal fibroblast treatment is credible new technology. Other clinics are experiementing with them; early indications are positive. This is only the first picture and the first available delivery method. A relaively minor improvement will most likely be noticable for most using this product.

[kismet]

No. Not entirely anyway. There is better lighting. She has lost some weight and some snarl, but there is a noticable improvement in skin texture. Human dermal fibroblast treatment is credible new technology.

How does it work? I thought allogeneic transplants always get rejected without immuno-suppression? Hoping that the fibroblasts produce collagen before they are destroyed? The article says they are not rejected, is it magic? I propose you provide some serious references for all the lazy people, dailymail is not a peer-reviewed journal IIRC.

When will we be able to use our own stem cells or fibroblasts?

[Mind]

This is still fairly rudimentary for cosmetic surgery, but getting closer to true rejuvenation of the skin.

When will we be able to use our own stem cells or fibroblasts?

Another thread here at Imminst foretold this type of development.

Edited by Mind, 18 December 2008 - 09:59 PM.

[fizzionz]

smart ppl r funy


its not nice to put people down tho.. i feel sorry for ethan

off topic though... why is it so hard to get stem cells that contain my own dna? if i used a stem cell with my own dna i wont reject it right?

i read that they found a source of stem cells in male testicles. what if i edit a gene or two.. rejection? how far of a leap is that from propagating bone mearrow cells that are engineered
to to have the same immunity of the transplanted marrow they did recently for that h.i.v patient (change or delete the receptor protein or something) the hard part (or most risky) of the transplant i read was killing off the immune system so the body wont reject the marrow.. it would be good if that wasnt a problem. and it seems quite feasible. we wouldnt even need a donor that way.. god an aids free world would be good

[Ethan]

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There are already researchers successfully injecting stem cells harvested from the very patients undergoing the surgical procedure.
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(edited by Matthias: ten posts deleted. Reason: fight gained strength.)

Edited by Matthias, 21 December 2008 - 11:49 PM.

[Dmitri]

No. Not entirely anyway. There is better lighting. She has lost some weight and some snarl, but there is a noticable improvement in skin texture. Human dermal fibroblast treatment is credible new technology.

How does it work? I thought allogeneic transplants always get rejected without immuno-suppression? Hoping that the fibroblasts produce collagen before they are destroyed? The article says they are not rejected, is it magic? I propose you provide some serious references for all the lazy people, dailymail is not a peer-reviewed journal IIRC.

When will we be able to use our own stem cells or fibroblasts?

Will our bodies accept the cells? There's a Tejano musician who was involved in a car wreck a few months ago, he was in coma and things seemed dire. So, the doctors removed a portion of his skull and lowered his temperature to reduce the swelling. The new procedure worked as he recovered and the piece that was removed was placed back. However, 6 months after the operation he fell ill and it was discovered that his body had rejected the piece of skull which was his to begin with. Now he's going to have a plate instead of the skull portion. What if we get the same reaction from stem cells or do they work differently?

[Ben Simon]

I think the whole cosmetic angle is really important. If we were able to rejuvenate people, even only in appearance, then public attitudes about aging would be really significantly challenged. The more you scrape away at the myth that aging is impermeable the better. To some degree I wonder if this kind of thing may have an even more positive effect on the public mindset than extreme life extension results in mice.

Does anyone have any educated guesses they'd care to provide about how long it will be before we start seeing real results in this area, and what those results might look like?

[nancyd]

I have a question. Why does she look mad?

Edited by nancyd, 10 February 2009 - 02:23 AM.