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Posted 09 June 2009 - 12:18 AM
What is a project that you would like to see get going, or get going more to help gain exposure for the indefinite healthy life extension cause?
Posted 09 June 2009 - 03:17 AM
I added a reply and don't see it, so doing it again:
What is a project that you would like to see get going, or get going more to help gain exposure for the indefinite healthy life extension cause?
I see so many ideas for things to be done to the body, and, so far, no reference to the use to which we put our minds. Since no-one 'dies' without giving their consent, it would seem that mind is where it's at.
What do you think?
Sun~Rose
Edited by dfowler, 09 June 2009 - 03:18 AM.
Posted 22 December 2009 - 04:35 AM
I added a reply and don't see it, so doing it again:
What is a project that you would like to see get going, or get going more to help gain exposure for the indefinite healthy life extension cause?
I see so many ideas for things to be done to the body, and, so far, no reference to the use to which we put our minds. Since no-one 'dies' without giving their consent, it would seem that mind is where it's at.
What do you think?
Sun~Rose
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Posted 02 March 2010 - 07:43 PM
A good deed is to avoid the wishful thinking that food supplements and cryonics are the greatest solution against aging. Supplements and cryo are useful solutions against illness and death, but the necessary economies of scale are missing. It makes no big difference when people say that there are already some medications with various substances tested on mice which should prolong human life like a wonder drug. It's also out of question that half of mankind will sign up for cryonics while the other half has barely enough healthy food on the table or medication in their stomachs.
Important facts are explained in the article On the Incomplete Architecture of Human Ontogeny: Selection, Optimization, and Compensation as Foundation of Developmental Theory http://www.mpib-berl...thein/index.htm by Paul B. Baltes. It's useful to find out some general motives for further aging research which I also posted at http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=32017 including a proposal for a lotion against skin wrinkles which will improve fund raising. Quoting from the article: when persons of different ages are asked about what age they would like to be, they report an increasing negative discrepancy between their actual age and their desired age (Smith & Baltes, 1996). Seventy-year-olds, for instance, would like to be on average about 10 years younger. For 90-year-olds, the discrepancy is increased to about 25 years.
Yet, a great target group for marketing rejuvenation therapies are persons who are 70 years and older. They clearly wish to be younger. Here's a catch phrase for promotional banners and flyers which I also posted before: "Keep yourself fresh at 100!" When ImmInst recruits new members who embrace the wishes of elderly persons, they are right at home with the desired adjustments on the incomplete architecture of aging. The topic Overpopulation at SENS on Facebook http://www.facebook....0...&topic=7609 renders women and children as the first target group for any initial project. Women are the greatest customer group for an anti-wrinkle lotion anyways. Regarding children, they would be happy with some sort of gene therapy which increases their chances to jump vitally around at an age of 100.
Posted 02 March 2010 - 07:56 PM
I really think Aubrey needs more exposure (media attention, etc.). There are a few prominent scientists that should receive more attention, but I suppose he encapsulates age reversal better than any other.
Posted 02 March 2010 - 08:12 PM
A project involving the taking of products to build a better human body & mind
like i take liquid amino acids-ultra bio minn, on a daily basis, as well
10 in one liquid multi formula, by GBG.
2000mg of vitamin c
omega fish oil with vitamin D3
colon cleanser
ultra ginkgo plus endurance formula with siberian ginseng & tibetan rhodiola.
are there proven products that experienced persons have knowlege of?
are there any nano tech products that are available to public yet?
like nano engines that are programed to search out illness's & eliminate them
or take readings of your bodies intake & if your short of something they will stimulate the body to produce it's own
medicines vitamins, or drugs as needed.
forget this last paragraph if it is too far out yet..
As far as the mind I'm aware of blueberries, avacodos, ultra ginkgo plus endurance formula with siberian ginseng & tibetan rhodiola, & LSD has mind expansion capabilities but where does one draw the line, for some it's okay for others too much too little, non at all. Meditation, mind excercises, reading..
Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:28 AM
Posted 15 March 2010 - 04:42 AM
Furthermore, to add to this discussion, I contacted Aubrey, and he agrees that he needs more media attention. If you have Facebook, you can add him there, or you can ask me for his email, I'm sure he won't mind, just tell him how you got his email.I really think Aubrey needs more exposure (media attention, etc.). There are a few prominent scientists that should receive more attention, but I suppose he encapsulates age reversal better than any other.
They have crews handling that. You could see about helping them. Through Imminst here we could come up with some more ideas too if you want. We have a media team/or outreach going through discussion right now. John Schloendorn has a bunch of Ending Aging books hes looking to give to people. Do you want to help us extrapolate on this concept and see what we can come up with? If so then let me know and I help keep you in the loop. For one, add me in skype, my id there is brokenportal.
What Im thinking here is that in our outreach efforts you can help with the outreach in general if your interested, and help us keep wording in there that also alerts them to Aubrey so that they might also contact him. We send out book packages a lot for other things like the VIP Outreach team and we can see what we can do to get Ending Aging into that rotation more as well.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:07 AM
Furthermore, to add to this discussion, I contacted Aubrey, and he agrees that he needs more media attention. If you have Facebook, you can add him there, or you can ask me for his email, I'm sure he won't mind, just tell him how you got his email.I really think Aubrey needs more exposure (media attention, etc.). There are a few prominent scientists that should receive more attention, but I suppose he encapsulates age reversal better than any other.
They have crews handling that. You could see about helping them. Through Imminst here we could come up with some more ideas too if you want. We have a media team/or outreach going through discussion right now. John Schloendorn has a bunch of Ending Aging books hes looking to give to people. Do you want to help us extrapolate on this concept and see what we can come up with? If so then let me know and I help keep you in the loop. For one, add me in skype, my id there is brokenportal.
What Im thinking here is that in our outreach efforts you can help with the outreach in general if your interested, and help us keep wording in there that also alerts them to Aubrey so that they might also contact him. We send out book packages a lot for other things like the VIP Outreach team and we can see what we can do to get Ending Aging into that rotation more as well.
Aubrey with MF and SENS all need a really good Pr and promotions campaign, maybe you can volunteer with them? Aubrey's assistant, - I forgot her name -, asked me if I'd llike to volunteer, I said yes, but haven't heard back. You may have better luck, particularly if you're knowledgeable about SENS theory and anti-aging or nano-tech sciences.
David Goebel runs the Methuselah Foundation, and the MF page is really great where you essentially have to donate something when you sign up, I think there is a way to become a member without donating as well.
So contact Methuselah Foundation, Aubrey, or SENS if you wish to contribute. Also I run the VIP outreach team and our mission is to get top celebs and others of notoriety informed of the movement, with ultimate goal them being a spokesperson spreading the meme.
If you keep on top of SENS and MF and also you should sign up for the longevity meme newsletter, it's really a great look into what's going on now with anti-aging, rejuvenation medicines, stem cells etc.
But as for being discrete about the "radical nature" of what we are doing, you'd be surprised how many theists, atheists, what have you, jump at the thought of living several hundred years. I think what MF and SENS are doing is perfect, they are focused on better years, prolonging life, without specific estimates of what should or will be possible, on their pages.
I think what MF and SENS are doing is perfect, they are focused on better years, prolonging life, without specific estimates of what should or will be possible, on their pages.
Posted 15 March 2010 - 05:20 AM
Posted 15 March 2010 - 06:48 PM
First off, we must be discreet. Since our ultimate goal is ostensibly radical, we must support it fairly inconspicuously. I mean that appose to addressing the problem as a single medical endeavor entailing several major biomedical interventions, initially we'll have to espouse them as though their merits are mutually exclusive (instead of synergistic with continuity, etc.). Ideally "robust mouse rejuvenation" will be achieved and that'll pique the public's interest enough to where we'll no longer have to operate under a facade, etc., but until then we should really just try to refine the technologies separately as to prevent the project from being quelled on the premise of infeasibility. Anyway, you get what I'm saying.
Now for me, I intend to eventually become a prominent doctor.
Posted 24 March 2010 - 07:59 AM
First off, we must be discreet. Since our ultimate goal is ostensibly radical, we must support it fairly inconspicuously. I mean that appose to addressing the problem as a single medical endeavor entailing several major biomedical interventions, initially we'll have to espouse them as though their merits are mutually exclusive (instead of synergistic with continuity, etc.). Ideally "robust mouse rejuvenation" will be achieved and that'll pique the public's interest enough to where we'll no longer have to operate under a facade, etc., but until then we should really just try to refine the technologies separately as to prevent the project from being quelled on the premise of infeasibility. Anyway, you get what I'm saying.
Now for me, I intend to eventually become a prominent doctor.
Right, in the beginning, in many cases, we have to be discreet. We have to use PR names and PR goals when talking to some certain groups of people. For example (one example of many) when we write to VIPs we want to use terms like Longevity Communities Network, restoration and maintenance of function, and sometimes indefinite life extension. When we raise money like we did for the Laser Ablation of Lipofuscin we want to tell them we are funding the Laser Ablation of Lipofuscin, and tell them about how it clogs our cells, but not tell them that we are funding the invincibility of humanity so that we may become immortals or something like that.
However, although we do want to be conspicuous in many cases, more so in the beginning here, we also have to find avenues to keep the pressure on so that we may continue working to push this cause out into the mainstream so that we can help it to become non-radical. A lot of concepts start out as radical, crazy, heretical, space age nonsense, until the mainstream picks up on it, at which point it tends to become the norm and unremarkable.
So the point is, it seems to me we need both, things like robust mouse rejuvenation in the papers, but also a slow methodical assimilation of the public until it reaches mainstream in the mean time.
Anyways, I have three project suggestions for you.
-Can we interest you in joining the VIP Outreach team, you can help get the word out about SENS.
-Can we interest you in joining a Media Outreach team? That team is still developing at this time, but the more people that sign on now the faster that will develop.
Both of those projects would take about 30 minutes to 2 hours per month, and they flex to your schedule.
-If you dont have time for projects like that, then hopefully I can interest you in helping to move our science invite and application (part of this plan) only section along. If so then please respond there and Ill get you in the loop on the discussions and progressions.
The proposal is developing to be designed to fit right in with researchers and students routines.
cool, N.T.M, I'm listing you on my volunteer page on google docs. I just emailed Aubrey telling him that I would like to help with his PR campaign, this was in response to an email from him saying he'll be looking for people to help get the message out very soon, assuming better funds first.
So I'm sure you can have a very profound and direct help with Aubrey and co., especially if you are good with the science end of things.
Edited by N.T.M., 24 March 2010 - 08:00 AM.
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Posted 10 April 2010 - 08:22 AM
Great thread idea, BrokenPortal. Lurkers, have no fear! We'd love your fresh ideas. N.T.M.: No worries, I'm in school and working; I know it's tough. Probably the best way for us to help is to find small projects we can knock out in an hour of volunteer time or so. One thing that always comes to mind is promoting ImmInst and its events through Facebook. Even 5 minutes spent posting something to your wall can potentially bring in new members, who then volunteer their 5 minutes, thus creating a positive feedback loop.
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Posted 11 August 2010 - 02:47 PM
I'd like to see some help put in towards cancer and Alzheimer research, two subjects tied up with aging and lifestyle that are an utter blight on humanity.
If any of you are familiar with SETI they had a project a number of years back (it may still be running I guess) where they asked people to sign up and download an App. This app on your machine would then help to number crunch the vast amounts of research data that SETI had captured.
The idea being all the idle computers sitting out there at 3am in the morning could help out.
I'm not sure whether cancer research or any other areas of medical science could benefit from a program like this, but I think it is something that us folks not in the medical, bio-engineering or similar fields could help out with.
Posted 22 August 2010 - 02:04 AM
Doesnt the folding at home project get into that? http://imminst.org/fah Im not sure. Maybe it doesnt get into those particulars.Any computer programming related project (not web programming, still don't know Java) like the AI that was suggested I'd be interested to help
Anything else.. maybe one day when I get more expertise from my degree studies.
Edit: Here is an idea for a project, some sort of data base and computer simulation to help follow and understand which proteins DNA codes and follow the proteins in the body and see all the ways they go and might end and then see the effects they could cause.
I'd like to see some help put in towards cancer and Alzheimer research, two subjects tied up with aging and lifestyle that are an utter blight on humanity.
If any of you are familiar with SETI they had a project a number of years back (it may still be running I guess) where they asked people to sign up and download an App. This app on your machine would then help to number crunch the vast amounts of research data that SETI had captured.
The idea being all the idle computers sitting out there at 3am in the morning could help out.
I'm not sure whether cancer research or any other areas of medical science could benefit from a program like this, but I think it is something that us folks not in the medical, bio-engineering or similar fields could help out with.
Edited by brokenportal, 22 August 2010 - 02:05 AM.
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