I know this might be a bit over the top, but I have some serious data interpretation exams coming up which means i need to be on the toppest of my top form.
Edited by medicineman, 07 January 2009 - 07:41 PM.
Posted 07 January 2009 - 07:37 PM
Edited by medicineman, 07 January 2009 - 07:41 PM.
Posted 07 January 2009 - 09:45 PM
Since the problem with combining ritalin with selegeline is a hypertensive issue, has anyone tried small dose of selegeline with ritalin, and small dose beta blockers to counteract the hypertensive action of the rit and seleg? I dont plan on taking any high doses of any of them. Something like 5mg ritalin, 2mg deprenyl, and 2.5mg nebivolol. Any ideas? In theory it seems like it might work, although id like to hear from anyone with experience.
I know this might be a bit over the top, but I have some serious data interpretation exams coming up which means i need to be on the toppest of my top form.
Posted 07 January 2009 - 09:59 PM
Since the problem with combining ritalin with selegeline is a hypertensive issue, has anyone tried small dose of selegeline with ritalin, and small dose beta blockers to counteract the hypertensive action of the rit and seleg? I dont plan on taking any high doses of any of them. Something like 5mg ritalin, 2mg deprenyl, and 2.5mg nebivolol. Any ideas? In theory it seems like it might work, although id like to hear from anyone with experience.
I know this might be a bit over the top, but I have some serious data interpretation exams coming up which means i need to be on the toppest of my top form.
Whats the reasoning for selegeline?
Posted 07 January 2009 - 10:09 PM
Since the problem with combining ritalin with selegeline is a hypertensive issue, has anyone tried small dose of selegeline with ritalin, and small dose beta blockers to counteract the hypertensive action of the rit and seleg? I dont plan on taking any high doses of any of them. Something like 5mg ritalin, 2mg deprenyl, and 2.5mg nebivolol. Any ideas? In theory it seems like it might work, although id like to hear from anyone with experience.
I know this might be a bit over the top, but I have some serious data interpretation exams coming up which means i need to be on the toppest of my top form.
Whats the reasoning for selegeline?
Selegeline inhibits deamination effects of mao-b to dopamine, while ritalin blocks dopamine reuptake.
Edited by TheDiesel, 07 January 2009 - 10:10 PM.
Posted 07 January 2009 - 10:44 PM
Posted 07 January 2009 - 10:51 PM
Posted 07 January 2009 - 11:02 PM
Posted 09 January 2009 - 06:16 PM
TheDiesel - MAO is the garbage man of the brain and kills off your neurotransmitters. Interfering with it helps with virtually all mental illnesses.
Posted 09 January 2009 - 06:18 PM
no, nothing about toxicity. im not worried about dopamine byproducts. i dont think ritalin in therapeutic doses is neurotoxic.
ritalin causes a transient rise in dopamine. i just want that transient rise to remain longer.. the dopamine is actually more for motivation rather than cognition in the sense of better memory etc.... i should have been specific.
Posted 09 January 2009 - 11:20 PM
TheDiesel - MAO is the garbage man of the brain and kills off your neurotransmitters. Interfering with it helps with virtually all mental illnesses.
Any evidence for this?
Posted 10 January 2009 - 04:47 AM
Posted 10 January 2009 - 03:03 PM
The statement was a bit brash... I've never heard of schizophrenia being abolished with an MAO inhibitor. Seems likely to send a bipolar patient into a manic phase as a stand-alone therapy. Hmmm.
TheDiesel - MAO is the garbage man of the brain and kills off your neurotransmitters. Interfering with it helps with virtually all mental illnesses.
Any evidence for this?
google.com
Posted 11 January 2009 - 04:21 AM
Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:50 PM
First off, read about neurotransmitters! They are not nerve cells, or even cells of any kind. The simplified explanation is that they are chemicals that signal the brain into doing various things. Sort of like how hormones trigger reactions in the body.
Posted 11 January 2009 - 09:12 PM
Posted 12 January 2009 - 01:07 AM
Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:55 AM
Edited by bgwithadd, 12 January 2009 - 02:58 AM.
Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:50 AM
Duke, that's true, though mao-b is what you probably want unless you are actually depressed. Now that I look back my original post seems sort of pointless. I should have said simply "it has too many (potentially) good effects to count".
Posted 12 January 2009 - 07:37 AM
Edited by unbreakable, 12 January 2009 - 07:39 AM.
Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:32 AM
Edited by Duke, 12 January 2009 - 10:38 AM.
Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:51 PM
Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:51 PM
By the way: If the combination of a MAOI with a stimulant results in a hypertensive crisis in some people, I wouldn't treat it with any betablocker except maybe Carvedilol as it acts as a alphablocker too. I would go for Nifedepine, Clonidine or Chlorpromazine. Pure beta-receptor-antagonism could result in overstimulation of alpha-receptors which would be very counterproductive.
Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:22 AM
TheDiesel - MAO is the garbage man of the brain and kills off your neurotransmitters. Interfering with it helps with virtually all mental illnesses.
MAO inhibitors are not used frequently in the clinical setting.
Except he's using Selegiline, not your run-off-the-mill MAOI.
Selegiline has a low oral bioavailability.
A controversial idea, anyone any ideas?, beta-blocker, ritalin, selegeline
By the way: If the combination of a MAOI with a stimulant results in a hypertensive crisis in some people, I wouldn't treat it with any betablocker except maybe Carvedilol as it acts as a alphablocker too. I would go for Nifedepine, Clonidine or Chlorpromazine. Pure beta-receptor-antagonism could result in overstimulation of alpha-receptors which would be very counterproductive.
Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:29 AM
MAO is the garbage man of the brain and kills off your neurotransmitters. Interfering with it helps with virtually all mental illnesses.
MAO inhibitors are not used frequently in the clinical setting.
Except he's using Selegiline, not your run-off-the-mill MAOI.
Selegiline has a low oral bioavailability.
A controversial idea, anyone any ideas?, beta-blocker, ritalin, selegeline
ritalin causes a transient rise in dopamine. i just want that transient rise to remain longer.. the dopamine is actually more for motivation rather than cognition in the sense of better memory etc.... i should have been specific.
By the way: If the combination of a MAOI with a stimulant results in a hypertensive crisis in some people, I wouldn't treat it with any betablocker except maybe Carvedilol as it acts as a alphablocker too. I would go for Nifedepine, Clonidine or Chlorpromazine. Pure beta-receptor-antagonism could result in overstimulation of alpha-receptors which would be very counterproductive.
Edited by graatch, 13 January 2009 - 07:32 AM.
Posted 13 January 2009 - 11:34 AM
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