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#1 naapi

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 01:20 PM


Hello everybody,

Now that we've become one of the Top 100 teams and celebrated it properly - it is time to think ahead and set new goals. We all feel there's no more important goal for humanity today than just stop people from dying, so I'm sure we'll ultimately reach top 10 or maybe even #1 spot.

But, we need to set immediate goals for the immediate future. Top 50 is within our reach, everybody feels so. With Q4 FAH prize and all the good ideas the team has, we will get there much sooner than current projections show, as was the case with reaching Top 100. My first estimation back in mid-June 2008 as to when our team would reach Top 100 was pointing to year 2014. We had hit Top 100 within 6 months of this projection, not 6 years!!!

So, even if you see projections below that seem to point to distant future keep that reality in mind. Our team is strong and getting stronger by the week, by the month, all the time. We have great ideas, we grow and our cause is based on a strong meme - that's why more and more people become members, and those, that join are dedicated to the team.

That all said, the current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate steps are:

#90 2009-01-26
#80 2009-04-02
#70 2009-07-12
#60 2010-03-17
#50 beyond 2010

Fold on, I will,

Maciek.

#2 Mind

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 02:29 PM

So we have our work cut out for us to make it into the top #50 by the end of 2009. That's good. I like a challenge.

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 08:42 PM

I know we can make it. By the way naapi you have me confused, is your folding username "TMichael" or "Maciek"?

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 09:00 PM

I could be wrong but it seems to me that a coupon program is going to be the most efficient expedient way to go to get us to rise in the ranks.

What Im going to try is to develop a coupon for ps3 games. Im thinking maybe $2.00 off coupons if the person can show that they joined our folding team. Im not sure how we would be able to get them to prove that they joined the team though. What Im thinking is that we will probably have to have a different name on each coupon that they have to join under, and that they will then have to bring in a print out of a screen shot of the folding page with that name on it. Im not sure though. I have to give it some more thought. If you have any ideas let us all know and me or somebody can develop this.

The only reason Im dont go work on it right away is because Ive got so many other things that I am working on right now. Ive got a good 20 bucks on me to spare. If somebody wants to develop a coupon idea then Ill go try it out some time this week.

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:28 PM

while pande is on the show, ask for endorsement, ask for name change to Longevitymeme.org pays u , or something and ppl willl click the site and join. It's not just a cause/work but hobby for many so they'll join and compete for spots and cash

If you increase the price to $1000 or something, maybe chun'll be back and some other greater folding masters will join. If you ask someone like Peter Thiel to donate 10,000 to top folder in TLM, then other ppl may abandon old teams to join, if Peter Thiel or a bill gates donates 100,000, then it'll reach top 10 or #1 by end of yr

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Posted 17 January 2009 - 10:51 PM

There's a saying: If the price is high enough, then somebody will do it.

and almost everything has a price. (I say almost, b/c can hardly put a price to love, friendship, family, belief. those 're invaluable almost. ppl die for them. The day when Death dies? Priceless)

Edited by HYP86, 17 January 2009 - 10:58 PM.


#7 naapi

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 06:46 PM

By the way naapi you have me confused, is your folding username "TMichael" or "Maciek"?


Sorry for the confusion:

naapi (Imminst forum nickname) = Maciek (real name) = Maciek_Kolodziejczyk (Folding @ Home username)

TMichael is another person...

Maciek.

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Posted 18 January 2009 - 08:32 PM

Ok, so I thought, welcome back then!

By the way guys Dr. Vijay Pande the founder of folding at home will be interviewed today in the ustream, join us if you can: http://profile.myspa...riendid=7255238

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 07:02 PM

Just want to say that my most important goal is not to live longer but reduce the amount of animal suffering. FAH should help reduce animal testing, just a little or more, can't be said at this point. My feelings are that the best way to accomplish my goal would be to research the best methods to remove traumatic memories chemically or magnetically, etc. (yes, I believe the current amount of animal testing and meat eating is caused by insensitivity that is caused by early life experiences). But very little people here are interested in that sort of thing in any meaningful way, meaning doing something for it.

So it may be that you get your longer life but after you get it, will you then focus your ambitions on changing the hearts and minds of people using science or will you be just happy sipping sugarless pina coladas by the pool after coming from a hard workout at age 80 and afterwards going jiggy with your wife that looks about 50 years old even when she's as old as you.

I know this is OT so will probably get moved.

Edited by poser, 22 January 2009 - 07:04 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2009 - 08:42 PM

To reduce animal suffering is a legitimate reason to support F@H. I have no doubt that it will. The more petaflops available the more in depth simulations can be done, perhaps simulating entire organelles or cells at some point in the not too distant future.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:13 AM

To reduce animal suffering is a legitimate reason to support F@H. I have no doubt that it will. The more petaflops available the more in depth simulations can be done, perhaps simulating entire organelles or cells at some point in the not too distant future.



almost 5 PFLOPs

#12 naapi

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:32 PM

Prepare your champagnes once again, we're going to celebrate #90 in less than two days...

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones are:

#90 2009-01-25
#80 2009-03-21
#70 2009-06-12
#60 2009-11-05
#50 beyond 2010

ALL of the milestones have been advanced forward, keep up the good work !

Maciek.

Edited by naapi, 23 January 2009 - 09:44 PM.


#13 Heliotrope

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 10:19 PM

Prepare your champagnes once again, we're going to celebrate #90 in less than two days...

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones are:

#90 2009-01-25
#80 2009-03-21
#70 2009-06-12
#60 2009-11-05
#50 beyond 2010

ALL of the milestones have been advanced forward, keep up the good work !

Maciek.


great, it'll be there before Sunday Update on ustream

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 03:23 AM

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones are...Maciek.

Thanks Maciek for starting this thread.

It is always interesting to read your progress forecasts for the TLM team.

#15 naapi

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Posted 29 January 2009 - 09:33 PM

OK, position #90 taken ;)

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones are:

#80 2009-03-22
#70 2009-06-15
#60 2009-12-17
#50 beyond 2010

Not much change in the target dates, which means we're keeping our pace and doing good progress! :~

Maciek.

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Posted 16 February 2009 - 09:20 PM

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones:

#80 2009-04-04
#70 2009-06-15
#60 2009-12-21
#50 beyond 2010

Again, we're well on track with steady progress towards our goals. ;)

Maciek.

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Posted 17 February 2009 - 07:31 AM

Cool, keep us updated, Maciek.
:p

#18 naapi

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 07:43 PM

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones:

#80 2009-03-31
#70 2009-05-18
#60 2009-11-26
#50 beyond 2010

Once again the milestones have all moved to earlier dates. We're doing steady progress, soon we'll be moving one position up every ~3 days as we get to top 80 by end of March

Maciek.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:30 AM

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones:

#80 2009-03-17
#70 2009-05-16
#60 2009-10-24
#50 beyond 2010

Very strong progress over past 2 weeks! Never before have the milestones (#80-#50) been forecasted to be achieved so early. #60 is virtually guaranteed to be achieved before end of 2009, #50 is getting more and more likely by the week.

Fold on!

Maciek.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 03:07 AM

#60 is virtually guaranteed to be achieved before end of 2009

Wow, awesome!

#21 naapi

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:34 PM

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones:

#80 2009-03-17
#70 2009-05-16
#60 2009-10-24
#50 beyond 2010

Very strong progress over past 2 weeks! Never before have the milestones (#80-#50) been forecasted to be achieved so early. #60 is virtually guaranteed to be achieved before end of 2009, #50 is getting more and more likely by the week.

Fold on!

Maciek.


We're #80 :-D

Maciek.

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 05:09 PM

To reduce animal suffering is a legitimate reason to support F@H. I have no doubt that it will. The more petaflops available the more in depth simulations can be done, perhaps simulating entire organelles or cells at some point in the not too distant future.

I'm not a model vegetarian by any means but I do think that caring about animals starts by stopping to eat meat (including fish). But that's just me. People doing otherwise just seem like bunch of hypocrites.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 07:48 PM

Current projections to reach top 50 and intermediate milestones:

#80 2009-03-17
#70 2009-05-16
#60 2009-10-24
#50 beyond 2010

Very strong progress over past 2 weeks! Never before have the milestones (#80-#50) been forecasted to be achieved so early. #60 is virtually guaranteed to be achieved before end of 2009, #50 is getting more and more likely by the week.

Fold on!

Maciek.


We're #80 :-D

Maciek.

just seen #79 :)

I will join the team with my modest contribution within couple of months as soon as i get a new computer..

#24 brokenportal

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 08:59 PM

I could have sworn there was a folding topic about ps3's. My use of the search function never seems to turn up what Im looking for for some reason.

Im helping my friend down load it on to ps3 right now, but we dont see the downloader anywhere. Does anybody know about this?

Also, this top 50 is still well with in reach. Fold on fellow fahers, fold on.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 07:51 PM

I could have sworn there was a folding topic about ps3's. ...

Haven't actually used it, there is a link to the Stanford's PS3 Guides in this post.

How to Install FAH

The actual link is:

http://www.stanford....nglish/PS3Guide

The PS3 FAQ

http://www.stanford....English/FAQ-PS3

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 10:31 PM

What's all this about? I know that folding @ home deals with protein folding, but is this team specifically folding brain/nerve related proteins? If that's the case I'll jump on.

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Posted 14 November 2009 - 10:39 PM

To reduce animal suffering is a legitimate reason to support F@H. I have no doubt that it will. The more petaflops available the more in depth simulations can be done, perhaps simulating entire organelles or cells at some point in the not too distant future.



Unfortunately modern science takes this compartamental approach, where the study of one subsystem is extrapolated through known pathways to other systems. It is very likely that scientists do not truly understand how ANYTHING works in the body, but are using models with very high deviations from actual interaction. If physics had the margin of error that health-sciences have, we'd be more or less unable to make catapults never mind anything beyond 400BC tech. It is very difficult to predict the actual effects of medications on whole-systems. That is why in vivo studies are necessary. In fact, not enough in vivo longitudal studies are done. It would probably be necessary to come up with a human cloning system, where clones are treated like livestock, tested upon for donec mors (30-40 years). Of course that is tremendously unethical, but still somehow the issue of whole-system long term effects must be addressed. I doubt that any computer within the next 200 years will be able to completely model a human being. At best this kind of research will help to create better targets, and reduce the # of trials needed for a satisfactory short-term studies.

Basically what I'm saying is that your assertion that knowing the activity of a single cell, or even an entire organ, will help stem the need for animal studies is fallacious. It will do little to cull the need for in vivo studies. We already have the ability to model effects on simple tissues through in vitro studies, but the resulsts of such studies rarely translate to accurate living whole-system results; and furthermore short term in vivo studies do not show what happens when you believe the medicine is working, what happens when it is metabolized within the realm of your lifestyle, mindframe, karma. These things are better understood through cultural medicine, tradition. But that is not available for pharmaceuticals.

It is of course inevitable that B-pharma will produce the immortal human. The question is, between now and cure, how many people will die, or be maimed, physically, mentally, or in the whole.

Of course the most important consideration is the corporate interest. WWBPD? What will the pharmaceutical companies do to make sure they stay relevant. They will not give us everlasting life. The will create artificial demand for medicine ad infinitum, like DeBeers for diamonds, like politicians for war. The corporate growth model prevents single product solutions. The political growth model prevents this. We need to, as in all crysis points in history, expand the people's knowledge, treat them to the truth, and help them grow power within their own bodies and minds. As always scientia eruditus veritatem indagas.

Edited by AlexK, 14 November 2009 - 10:57 PM.


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Posted 15 November 2009 - 06:35 PM

What's all this about? I know that folding @ home deals with protein folding, but is this team specifically folding brain/nerve related proteins? If that's the case I'll jump on.


You can join our team at imminst.org/fah. It took me less than 3 minutes. Theres even a prize system thats operating around here for it when we have the funds for it.

The teams just fold proteins in general. Im not sure if there is a way to choose to fold just certain kinds of proteins, like proteins that are most related to aging. There may be, or there may be a way to get that to happen. That would be a great project for somebody to pick up and see through. If somebody does we'll enter you in the volunteer prize system for it. Thats small potatos, but most of all your volunteer work might allow us to fold for specific proteins, and will inspire more volunteers to help forge ahead, and that is priceless.

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 06:45 PM

Great job by the top 12, and many thanks to all the folders. We have a fairly large team now and we hope to find a method to spur further growth and another surge up the rankings. If anyone has any suggestions please submit them here or here.


it won't be easy to get to top 50. today i have discovered a new-(some 2weeks old) single member team with current rank #573, which will overtake us within 8 months (if they keep folding). crazy. see the SRVS team. I suspect they are some organisation with all their computers folding for this one member [raver]-he overtook even atlas folder in average PPD.

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in team statistics we are currently steady at around 70th place in averagePPD; to get to top 50 we need to double and keep rising our current performance.[now slightly above 200 000 PPD=not bad!]
as new powerfull hardware is coming on the market soon [namely new nvidia fermi graphic cards and 6 core intel processors] we will likely see some boost to overall F@H performance - its currently running at 4.549 native PFLOPS and I think may break 6 TFLOPS barrier in 2010 for the first time.-we'll see

Personaly I will do my best, but currently lack of finances is the limit [as usuall..:)] anyway i hope to reach 10 000 PPD this year and much more in the future. I am crazy enough to run several powerful folding rigs but it may take years to get there-not possible for now.

Edited by orion602, 07 February 2010 - 06:52 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2010 - 09:22 PM

it won't be easy to get to top 50.


We like a challenge! Many people thought we wouldn't reach the top 100 but we did. Thanks for your folding efforts orion602.




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