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[Cyberbrain]

http://www.salon.com...urce=newsletter

[sUper GeNius]

Uhh, no.

http://www.imminst.o...mp;#entry296598

[david ellis]

Uhh, no.

http://www.imminst.o...mp;#entry296598

Let's see, this topic is about five red states left. The linked post is mostly about Hillary Clinton and Obama. Please explain how the linked post proves that there are more than five red states.

[sUper GeNius]

Uhh, no.

http://www.imminst.o...mp;#entry296598

Let's see, this topic is about five red states left. The linked post is mostly about Hillary Clinton and Obama. Please explain how the linked post proves that there are more than five red states.

Did you take the time to read the op's link? I'll post the first sentence of the referenced article.

Take a look at the map below, which was produced by Gallup based on an aggregation of data the pollster collected during the 2008 cycle.

No long-term trends are evident from the 2008 cycle. My last post in that thread alludes to the fragile and tenuous Democratic "gains" made last election cycle.

[david ellis]

Uhh, no.

http://www.imminst.o...mp;#entry296598

Let's see, this topic is about five red states left. The linked post is mostly about Hillary Clinton and Obama. Please explain how the linked post proves that there are more than five red states.

Did you take the time to read the op's link? I'll post the first sentence of the referenced article.

Take a look at the map below, which was produced by Gallup based on an aggregation of data the pollster collected during the 2008 cycle.

No long-term trends are evident from the 2008 cycle. My last post in that thread alludes to the fragile and tenuous Democratic "gains" made last election cycle.

I get it, it is my job to imagine what you are going to say. Kind of tough, because I thought your allusions were not supported in your link. Spend a little more time on posts and give us the courtesy of a complete thought.

Here is some more facts to go along with the fact that there are only 5 republican states left. President Obama has a higher favorability rating(75%) than Reagan(67%) at the start of his presidency.

The American people have had eight years of "deregulation" ideology. Ideology based on the assumption that markets are rational and that greed is good. Viewing the results of this stupid ideology, the American people have rejected it. The stupidity of the ideology is proven by a recession that is in acceleration. Last quarter GDP declined by some 3%. The current quarter is expected to decline by 5% or greater as surplus inventories are used up. At 5% decline per quarter it won't be long before we are in a depression to rival 1929.

There is no good news for Republicans in this poll.




------------------------------FAVORABLE UNFAVORABLE DON'T KNOW
PRESIDENT OBAMA---------------75---------------------22------------------3

PELOSI:--------------------------------41---------------------38-----------------21
REID:-----------------------------------34---------------------41-----------------25
McCONNELL:------------------------26--------------------46-----------------28
BOEHNER: 22 48 30

CONGRESSIONAL DEMS: 40 52 8
CONGRESSIONAL GOPS: 24 66 10

DEMOCRATIC PARTY: 56 36 8
REPUBLICAN PARTY: 33 58 9

[sUper GeNius]

Here is some more facts to go along with the fact that there are only 5 republican states left. President Obama has a higher favorability rating(75%) than Reagan(67%) at the start of his presidency

No. Obama's approval was in the 70's *before* he took office. Obama's highest rating *during* office is 67% according to Gallup, which is lower than JFK's, which was mid 70's. An approval rating *before* a President is faced with the challenges of office holds very little meaning AFAIAC. Let's see what he has in three months, six months, and a year and more.

Reagan had an initially high approval rating, just like Obama. Again, this was in March of '81, before he was challenged by any issues. However, Reagan nearly hit the same high in 1986. By that time, he had *earned* that approval rating. Let's see how Obama does.

As I said in another thread, I believe Obama's rating is quite fragile, and that it reflects the general optimism of the population, and is almost the mirror image of the low Bush approval rating, kind of like when it feels good when one stops banging his head against the wall.

Obama *really* has his work cut out for him, and he is quite vulnerable politically in my opinion. It would surprise me not one bit if he drops below 50% in 15 months.

In my state of Pennsylvania, Obama took a whipping from Hillary, especially in the rural areas, in some cases losing 3 or 4 to one. That vote, critical for Obama, could easily swing back to the right, just as it did for Reagan. Interestingly, Obama reminds me alot of Jimmy Carter, and I can see Obama's presidency proceeding and ending in similar fashion. Maybe Romney is teh next Reagan...

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 01 February 2009 - 12:27 AM.

[david ellis]

Obama *really* has his work cut out for him, and he is quite vulnerable politically in my opinion. It would surprise me not one bit if he drops below 50% in 15 months.

I think it will take less than 15 months. And probably the surprise will not be Obama breaching 50%. The focus will be on what puts people back to work. If Republicans obstruct President Obama in getting people back to work, the price will be heavy. That heavy price promise was clear in Obama's inaugural address. Obstructionism is a dangerous policy for Republicans. The situation is much more severe than the 9/11 disaster. The country will severely punish those who get in the way. Obama was not kidding about bipartisanship being necessary.