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[sUper GeNius]

http://www.latimes.c...0,4776260.story

I'm thinking the latter.

[Liquidus]

Wow, just wow. I definitely agree that she's a 'Super Moron'.

I've never understood why joe-blow politicians make strategically sensitive remarks about military operations that they more than likely have absolutely no idea about.

This is the same politician that has forwarded an amendment to end net neutrality? (the source is very questionable, but looking at her track record, it wouldn't be surprising): http://www.theregist...ulus_amendment/

I'll bunch together this moron politician with a fellow politician who's in the other party, but is equally as moronic with a quote from the latter:

"And again, the Internet is not something that you just dump something on. It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material."

[sUper GeNius]

I've never understood why joe-blow politicians make strategically sensitive remarks about military operations that they more than likely have absolutely no idea about.

But it's far worse than that! She chairs the Senate Intelligence committee!!

Do you feel safe?

[sUper GeNius]

I hope the Demo's open an investigation and show the same outrage as they did in the Valerie Plame case. The damage done by Feinstein is far far more extensive. She singlehandedly, in one sentence, has put the most effective campaign against Al-Qaeda leadership yet in jeopardy. Amazing incompetence.

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 14 February 2009 - 12:32 AM.

[niner]

I hope the Demo's open an investigation and show the same outrage as they did in the Valerie Plame case. The damage done by Feinstein is far far more extensive. She singlehandedly, in one sentence, has put the most effective campaign against Al-Qaeda leadership yet in jeopardy. Amazing incompetence.

Feinstein's people say that the information regarding Predator launching was from "news reports", i.e. it was already public knowledge. I have no idea if that's true or not, but it sounds like maybe we don't have all the information yet. It's not comparable to Plame unless she did it on purpose, which I find unlikely. It doesn't put the Predator campaign in jeopardy, although it may strain our relationship with Pakistan. I'm not saying it was a brilliant move on her part, but you are making too much of it.

[sUper GeNius]

I hope the Demo's open an investigation and show the same outrage as they did in the Valerie Plame case. The damage done by Feinstein is far far more extensive. She singlehandedly, in one sentence, has put the most effective campaign against Al-Qaeda leadership yet in jeopardy. Amazing incompetence.

Feinstein's people say that the information regarding Predator launching was from "news reports", i.e. it was already public knowledge. I have no idea if that's true or not, but it sounds like maybe we don't have all the information yet. It's not comparable to Plame unless she did it on purpose, which I find unlikely. It doesn't put the Predator campaign in jeopardy, although it may strain our relationship with Pakistan. I'm not saying it was a brilliant move on her part, but you are making too much of it.

No, not comparable to Plame, far more severe consequences. Public knowledge? Show me the report. I think by now those mystery "news reports" would have been discovered and reported on themselves.

If Feinstein leaked classified information, even if inadvertently, that predator flights are originating from Pakistan territory, then she should resign. She is unfit for the job.

As far as me making too much of it, I'd say the Plame case was a perfect example of making too much of something. Plame was a nobody. Pakistan is extremely unstable, has nukes, has an intelligence service that is sympathetic to the Taliban. In fact, Feinstein's gross ineptitude could be the proverbial straw that brings down Pakistan. Making too much of it. LOL. She should resign.

Edit: it appears she is now saying she read about it in a Washington Times(or Post, forget which). Right. Let's see the article. Sounds to me like a cover story, and a bad execution at that. Several sources, (blogs) are indicating that they have intelligence sources that confirm she did in fact leak a covert CIA operation. I have not seen even one person come to her defense by posting the mystery article.

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 14 February 2009 - 01:49 AM.

[sUper GeNius]

The LA Times has confirmed that it was indeed a leak of a covert operation in Pakistan. It was confirmed by "intelligence sources."

She should resign from the committee, if not the Senate.


http://www.latimes.c...0,7000959.story

[sUper GeNius]

The more I read, the more I think the old gal has lost her marbles and should be sent up to the glue farm.

At a hearing, Feinstein expressed surprise over Pakistani opposition to the campaign of Predator-launched CIA missile strikes against Islamic extremist targets along Pakistan's northwestern border.

"As I understand it, these are flown out of a Pakistani base," she said.

She seems to have *forgotten* that this was highly sensitive classified information. She's 75 or 76 years old. She's got brain tangles. She's a security risk, time to retire her.

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 14 February 2009 - 02:45 AM.

[niner]

The LA Times has confirmed that it was indeed a leak of a covert operation in Pakistan. It was confirmed by "intelligence sources."

http://www.latimes.c...0,7000959.story

I couldn't find a statement to that effect in this article. Did you mean to link to something else?

[sUper GeNius]

The LA Times has confirmed that it was indeed a leak of a covert operation in Pakistan. It was confirmed by "intelligence sources."

http://www.latimes.c...0,7000959.story

I couldn't find a statement to that effect in this article. Did you mean to link to something else?

Sixth paragraph.

The CIA declined to comment, but former U.S. intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, confirmed that Feinstein's account was accurate.

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 14 February 2009 - 02:50 AM.

[sUper GeNius]

Very colorful history. Seems she is antigun yet secretly carried a gun. She was eventualy outed. There ya go. Head-Demo anti-gun nut=hypocrit. From her wiki page:

In 1993, Feinstein, along with then-Representative Charles Schumer (D-NY), led the fight to ban many semi-automatic firearms deemed to be assault weapons and restrict the sale of high-capacity firearm magazines. The ban was passed as part of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994. In 2004, when the ban was set to expire, Feinstein sponsored a 10-year extension of the ban as an amendment to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; while the amendment was successfully added, the act itself failed.[32] The act was revived in 2005, but was ultimately passed without an extension of the assault weapons ban.
Feinstein said on CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995, "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren't here."[32] In July 2006, Feinstein voted against the Vitter Amendment to prohibit Federal funds being used for the confiscation of lawfully owned firearms during a disaster.[33] Feinstein was famously accused of hypocrisy when it became public information that despite her stringent anti-gun record, the Senator maintains a Concealed Weapons permit and actively carries a .38 caliber Smith & Wesson revolver for her personal safety.[34][35]
When challenged on the hypocritical standard, she stated "I know the sense of helplessness that people feel. I know the urge to arm yourself because that's what I did. I was trained in firearms. I'd walk to the hospital when my husband was sick. I carried a concealed weapon. I made the determination that if somebody was going to try to take me out, I was going to take them with me."[36]
In 1999, Jill Labbe, of the Wilkes-Barre Times Leader, recounted Mrs. Feinstien's actions at an anti-gun press conference, where Mrs. Feinstien displayed an AK-47 "assault rifle". Despite her allegations of being trained in handling firearms, after picking it up, she broke multiple basic and commonly known firearms handling safety rules; placing her finger on the trigger, and then sweeping the muzzle across the room, pointing at people who were present."[37]

Fucking amazing. Finger-fucks the gun and then points it at the crowd. She's a prime example of an a anti-gun arse.

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 14 February 2009 - 03:06 AM.

[niner]

The LA Times has confirmed that it was indeed a leak of a covert operation in Pakistan. It was confirmed by "intelligence sources."

http://www.latimes.c...0,7000959.story

I couldn't find a statement to that effect in this article. Did you mean to link to something else?

Sixth paragraph.

The CIA declined to comment, but former U.S. intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, confirmed that Feinstein's account was accurate.

Yeah, I saw that. They didn't confirm that the operation was covert, they only confirmed that what Feinstein said was accurate. So we still don't know if it was a leak of previously secret information. It may or may not be, I don't know. I don't particularly like Feinstein either.

[sUper GeNius]

The LA Times has confirmed that it was indeed a leak of a covert operation in Pakistan. It was confirmed by "intelligence sources."

http://www.latimes.c...0,7000959.story

I couldn't find a statement to that effect in this article. Did you mean to link to something else?

Sixth paragraph.

The CIA declined to comment, but former U.S. intelligence officials, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, confirmed that Feinstein's account was accurate.

Yeah, I saw that. They didn't confirm that the operation was covert, they only confirmed that what Feinstein said was accurate. So we still don't know if it was a leak of previously secret information. It may or may not be, I don't know. I don't particularly like Feinstein either.

I read on a couple blogs, sources confirmed it was covert. But think about it. It HAS to be covert. You keep up with current events, right? Nobody has ever said that flights were coming out of Pakistan. No one. I think she's going to fade away. We'll get a retirement within the next six months. The old gal has lost it.

edit: You know it's covert because the LA times had to go ask former intelligence. There was no other source to check with, 'cept with a spook.

Edited by FuLL meMbeR, 14 February 2009 - 06:32 AM.

[Connor MacLeod]

I hope the Demo's open an investigation and show the same outrage as they did in the Valerie Plame case. The damage done by Feinstein is far far more extensive. She singlehandedly, in one sentence, has put the most effective campaign against Al-Qaeda leadership yet in jeopardy. Amazing incompetence.

Feinstein's people say that the information regarding Predator launching was from "news reports", i.e. it was already public knowledge.

An absolutely silly excuse since news stories citing anonymous sources can be denied; but once the chair of the Senate intelligence committee gives confirmation, the possibility of denial goes out the window. It is basic security protocol that classified information that appears in an unclassified source, e.g. a newspaper, remains classified; confirming (or denying) new stories involving classified matters is a breach of security. Feinstein should know better. A federal government employee who did this sort of thing would be out of a job, and possibly face charges.