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#1 Dmitri

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 07:31 PM


Vitamin E has been getting a lot bad press lately though many have attributed failed studies to using only one form of E when we all know there are 8 forms of Vitamin E. Therefore, I thought I'd do a search and see if I could find any studies on other forms of Vitamin E and what benefits they have revealed. I found two very promising that show how tocotrienols can protect DNA and how they can help prevent and battle cancer. I believe this shows that we should be supplementing all forms of Vitamin E not only alpha tocopherol which is what many companies produce. That being said I'm curious to know what dosage, forms and how often are the members here taking Vitamin E?


Tocotrienol build-up in tumours ‘critical’ for anti-cancer benefits: Study

http://www.nutraingr...-benefits-Study

Tocotrienols, members of the vitamin E family, may exert their anti-cancer benefits by accumulating in cancer cells and delaying tumour growth, says a new study from Japan.
Both gamma- and delta-tocotrienols may accumulate in cancer cells, and promote the death of the tumours, according to data from in vitro and in vivo studies by researchers from Kyushu University.

The potential anti-cancer benefits of tocotrienols are not new, but the Japanese researcher claim that their study is the first to show accumulation of the compounds in cancer cells.

“These results, to our knowledge, are the first demonstration of specific accumulation of gamma-tocotrienol and delta-tocotrienol in tumours and suggest that tocotrienols accumulation is critical for the anti-tumour activities of tocotrienols,” wrote lead author Yuhei Hiura in the The Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry.

The vitamin E family

There are eight forms of vitamin E: four tocopherols (alpha, beta, gamma, delta) and four tocotrienols (alpha, beta, gamma, delta). Alpha-tocopherol is the main source found in supplements and in the European diet, while gamma-tocopherol is the most common form in the American diet.

Tocotrienols (TCT) are only minor components in plants, although several sources with relatively high levels include palm oil, cereal grains and rice bran.

While the majority of research on vitamin E has focused on alpha-Toc, studies into tocotrienols account for less than one per cent of all research into vitamin E.

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The Japanese researchers studied the effects of gamma- and delta-tocotrienol on mouse cancer cells (murine hepatoma MH134) both in vitro and in vivo. For the cell study, the tumour cells were cultured in the tocotrienols, and they found that the delta-version inhibited cell growth more than the gamma-type. This was related to an induction of apoptosis (programmed cell death).

For the animal studies, the researchers used C3H/HeN mice and implanted the tumour cells. The animals were then fed a normal diet, or the diet supplemented with 0.1 per cent gamma-tocotrienol or 0.1 per cent delta-tocotrienol for four weeks.

At the end of the study, a significant delay in tumour growth was observed for both groups supplemented with the tocotrienols. No effects on body weight were recorded.

“Intriguingly, we found that tocotrienols was detected in tumour, but not in normal tissues,” wrote the researchers.

In terms of the added that the tocotrienols had no effect on levels of immunoglobulin levels in the animals, suggesting that the tocotrienols’ potential anti-cancer benefits were not related to immune function, “and that the anti-tumour effect may be due to the direct effect of T3 on tumour cells”, they said.

“In conclusion, our results suggested that accumulation is critical for the anti-tumour activity of tocotrienols.”

Source: The Journal of Nutritional Biochemistry
Published online ahead of print, doi: 10.1016/j.jnutbio.2008.06.004
“Specific accumulation of γ- and δ-tocotrienols in tumor and their antitumor effect in vivo”
Authors: Y. Hiura, H. Tachibana, R. Arakawa, N. Aoyama, M. Okabe, M. Sakai, K. Yamada




Tocotrienol may protect against DNA damage, says study

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By Stephen Daniells, 24-Sep-2007

Related topics: Research, Vitamins & premixes, Cancer risk reduction

Tocotrienols, the less studied form of vitamin E, may reduce DNA damage, considered an important trigger in cancer development, by about 50 per cent, new research suggests.
Researchers from Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia and tocotrienol-supplier, Golden Hope Bioganic, report that daily supplementation with a tocotrienol-rich supplement (Tri E Tocotrienol) showed greater effects in the older subjects, a sub-population with higher rates of DNA damage.

"The effect of Tri E Tocotrienol is more obvious in older age, possibly reflecting a greater need for supplementation or a greater profound effect due to the larger amount of damage present," wrote the authors, led by Siok-Fong Chin, in the journal Nutrition.

There are eight forms of vitamin E: four tocopherols (alpha, beta, gamma, delta) and four tocotrienols (alpha, beta, gamma, delta). Alpha-tocopherol (alpha-Toc) is the main source found in supplements and in the European diet, while gamma-tocopherol (gamma-Toc) is the most common form in the American diet.

Tocotrienols (TCT) are only minor components in plants, although several sources with relatively high levels include palm oil, cereal grains and rice bran.

While the majority of research on vitamin E has focused on alpha-Toc, studies into tocotrienols account for less than one per cent of all research into vitamin E.

This is slowly changing, and the new study reports the results of a randomised, double-blinded placebo-controlled study with 64 subjects aged 37 to 78 assigned to receive daily supplements of tocotrienol-rich vitamin E (160 mg/d, Tri E Tocotrienol, Golden Hope Bioganic) for six months. The supplement contained all four tocotrienols and alpha-Toc in a ratio of 74:26 per cent, respectively.

The researchers report that white blood cells from patients receiving the tocotrienol-rich supplement had significantly less DNA damage after three and six months of supplementation than those in the placebo group.

Significant reductions were also observed for urinary levels of 8-hydroxy-2'-deoxyguanosine (8-OHdG), a marker for oxidative stress in the supplementation group, relative to placebo.

Supplementation with the tocotrienol-rich vitamin E also reduced the frequency of sister chromatid exchange (SCE), an exchange of genetic information between sister chromatids that may be related to tumours, particularly in the older participants (over 50).

The mechanism of protection is related to oxidative stress and the quenching of reactive oxygen species by vitamin E, said the researchers. The free radical theory of ageing (FRTA) places free radicals at the front of causes for deterioration of physiologic function as people get older.

"The results obtained suggested that supplementation with palm oil Tri E Tocotrienol reduced the level of DNA damage in healthy subjects, with a more pronounced effect observed in older adults," concluded the researchers. "These observations may indicate a possible relation between the molecular mechanisms involved in the formation and repair of DNA breaks with Tri E Tocotrienol supplementation."

Source: Nutrition (Elsevier)

Published on-line ahead of print, doi:10.1016/j.nut.2007.08.006

"Reduction of DNA damage in older healthy adults by Tri E Tocotrienol supplementation"

Authors: Siok-Fong Chin, N.A. Abdul Hamid, A.A. Latiff, Z. Zakaria, M. Mazlan, Y.A.M. Yusof, A.A.Karim, J. Ibahim, Z. Hamid and W.Z.W. Ngah



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Posted 19 May 2009 - 08:12 PM

My wife and I take Jarrow FamilE, 1 gelcap daily.

http://www.iherb.com...tgels/3304?at=0

I used to additionally take a gelcap of Jarrow Toco-Sorb daily, which is a tocotrienols-only formula, but I decided it was not a very good value compared to the FamilE and might be unnecessary or overkill, since you're probably already getting more tocotrienols than anyone would normally get in their diet with just the FamilE.

http://www.iherb.com...ftgels/137?at=0

Edited by FunkOdyssey, 19 May 2009 - 08:13 PM.


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#3 Dmitri

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 08:35 PM

My wife and I take Jarrow FamilE, 1 gelcap daily.

http://www.iherb.com...tgels/3304?at=0

I used to additionally take a gelcap of Jarrow Toco-Sorb daily, which is a tocotrienols-only formula, but I decided it was not a very good value compared to the FamilE and might be unnecessary or overkill, since you're probably already getting more tocotrienols than anyone would normally get in their diet with just the FamilE.

http://www.iherb.com...ftgels/137?at=0


So, you believe the tocotrienol content in FamilE is enough; the study I posted used 160 mg of tocotrienol (FamilE has about 39.5 mg) though I suppose since you're still young and the study was short term it would be better to stay at lower dosages?

#4 JLL

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:12 PM

I used to take Toco-Sorb for one of my hair growth experiments. Didn't notice anything from taking it. The good news for tocotrienols seem to keep coming, however, so I may start taking it again eventually.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:14 PM

I've got some Toco-8 on order from Primordial Performance right now. Should be here within a week, so I'll see how I get on with it.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 11:42 PM

I've been considering trying Tocosorb or perhaps a different tocotrienol supplement as a cholesterol experiment... curious if it'll show any benefits. I just haven't decided with formula to go with yet. I don't normally supplement with extra E besides what's in my partial multi + whatever is in my fish oil.

The only thing I don't like about Tocosorb is the included alpha tocopherol. Although it isn't exactly in overdose territory, it probably impedes absorption of tocotrienols to some extent.

Here are a bunch of tocotrienol studies, if anyone is interested:
http://www.tocotrien...references.html

Here is a cholesterol study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pt=AbstractPlus

And I believe there was also a plaque reduction study (carotid) using tocotrienols, but I don't have the link handy.

Edited by nameless, 19 May 2009 - 11:43 PM.


#7 Dmitri

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 12:25 AM

I've been considering trying Tocosorb or perhaps a different tocotrienol supplement as a cholesterol experiment... curious if it'll show any benefits. I just haven't decided with formula to go with yet. I don't normally supplement with extra E besides what's in my partial multi + whatever is in my fish oil.

The only thing I don't like about Tocosorb is the included alpha tocopherol. Although it isn't exactly in overdose territory, it probably impedes absorption of tocotrienols to some extent.

Here are a bunch of tocotrienol studies, if anyone is interested:
http://www.tocotrien...references.html

Here is a cholesterol study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pt=AbstractPlus

And I believe there was also a plaque reduction study (carotid) using tocotrienols, but I don't have the link handy.


Alpha Tocopherol is known to reduce gamma tocopherol if too much is taken though I've never heard of it affecting tocotrienols; where did you read that information?

Anyway, I like the dosages carlson labs uses for their tocotrienol gel caps but it's over priced, so I'll settle with Jarrow Formulas FamilE.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 01:01 AM

Alpha Tocopherol is known to reduce gamma tocopherol if too much is taken though I've never heard of it affecting tocotrienols; where did you read that information?

I read it from AC Grace --

http://www.acgrace.c...o...2&Itemid=10

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 03:23 AM

Alpha Tocopherol is known to reduce gamma tocopherol if too much is taken though I've never heard of it affecting tocotrienols; where did you read that information?

I read it from AC Grace --

http://www.acgrace.c...o...2&Itemid=10


Thanks for the link. The paper you linked informs us that tocotrienols should be taken alone and hours apart from tocopherols. I suppose this means Jarrows FamilE is not as useful as many people considered?

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 03:45 AM

If the AC Grace data is correct, then yes, the FamilE may not be optimal.

This study below also infers that alpha tocopherol reduces the benefits (at least for lipid reduction) one would get from tocotrienols. It may also explain why some tocotrienol studies showed a cholesterol benefit, while some others didn't.. Too many tocotrienols apparently isn't optimal either.

Dose-dependent suppression of serum cholesterol by tocotrienol-rich fraction (TRF25) of rice bran in hypercholesterolemic humans.

Tocotrienols are effective in lowering serum total and LDL-cholesterol levels by inhibiting the hepatic enzymic activity of beta-hydroxy-beta-methylglutaryl coenzymeA (HMG-CoA) reductase through the post-transcriptional mechanism. alpha-Tocopherol, however, has an opposite effect (induces) on this enzyme activity. Since tocotrienols are also converted to tocopherols in vivo, it is necessary not to exceed a certain dose, as this would be counter-productive. The present study demonstrates the effects of various doses of a tocotrienol-rich fraction (TRF25) of stabilized and heated rice bran in hypercholesterolemic human subjects on serum lipid parameters. Ninety (18/group) hypercholesterolemic human subjects participated in this study, which comprised three phases of 35 days each. The subjects were initially placed on the American Heart Association (AHA) Step-1 diet and the effects noted. They were then administered 25, 50, 100, and 200 mg/day of TRF25 while on the restricted (AHA) diet. The results show that a dose of 100 mg/day of TRF25 produce maximum decreases of 20, 25, 14 (P<0.05) and 12%, respectively, in serum total cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol, apolipoprotein B and triglycerides compared with the baseline values, suggesting that a dose of 100 mg/day TRF25 plus AHA Step-1 diet may be the optimal dose for controlling the risk of coronary heart disease in hypercholesterolemic human subjects.

Edited by nameless, 20 May 2009 - 03:52 AM.


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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:32 AM

can anyone find a list with the Tocotrienol content of foods?

#12 Dmitri

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 08:12 AM

can anyone find a list with the Tocotrienol content of foods?


I'm not sure about content but according to wiki the following are rich in tocotrienols:

"Food sources: weight for weight, annatto-sourced oil contains the largest natural source of tocotrienols. Other abundant sources include rice bran oil, palm oil and coconut oil together with cereal grains, such as barley, oats, and rye."

#13 JLL

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 09:41 AM

can anyone find a list with the Tocotrienol content of foods?


Here's a blog post with references: Getting tocotrienols from natural food sources: is it possible?

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 10:26 AM

Dmitri - you asked us what we were supplementing with, so here goes.

I currently have two different Vit.E products on the go:

1. NOW foods Gamma E Complex (Mixed Tocopherols and Tocotrienols) - 400IUs of the d-alpha and 400mg of mixed Tocopherols and 10mg of Tocomin Mixed Palm Tocotrienol Complex.

2. Life Extension, Gamma E Tocopherol with Sesame Lignans, 30 Softgels: 37.7 IUs of D-alpha tocopherol 359 mg of Gamma E Mixed Tocopherols split like this:
Gamma tocopherol 237 mg
Delta tocopherol 79 mg
Alpha tocopherol 36 mg
Beta tocopherol 3.6 mg

There is also Sesame seed (Sesamum indicum) lignan extract 20 mg in the LEF product.

I alternate between the two and take 1 cap a day only, but I think I will switch to the LEF product moving forward.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 04:22 PM

Is there any data out there stating at what dose alpha tocopherol begins to deplete gamma?

And this line from the above study sort of stuck out to me:

Since tocotrienols are also converted to tocopherols in vivo, it is necessary not to exceed a certain dose, as this would be counter-productive.

If this is the case, would tocopherol supplementation even be necessary (for those who want extra tocopherols)? If they convert to tocopherols in the body, perhaps tocotrienols alone would be enough. And there is also the possibility that tocopherols + tocotrienols may produce too many in vivo tocopherols. If you look at food sources, they aren't really found together (all 8) in high doses, perhaps with good reason.

But I guess to figure that out, one would need to find out at what rate tocotrienols convert to tocopherols, and also if each fraction converts to their corresponding tocopherol.

Edited by nameless, 20 May 2009 - 04:37 PM.


#16 Dmitri

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 05:05 PM

can anyone find a list with the Tocotrienol content of foods?


Here's a blog post with references: Getting tocotrienols from natural food sources: is it possible?


From the link you provided it appears as though certain grains are the best sources, not good news for those on paleo diets.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 05:17 PM

What I am taking away from the analysis of tocotrienol content in foods is that tocotrienols are simply not a significant source of Vitamin E in almost any normal or traditional diet. So, you probably won't find any epidemiological support for supplementing with large quantities of tocotrienols.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 05:27 PM

What I am taking away from the analysis of tocotrienol content in foods is that tocotrienols are simply not a significant source of Vitamin E in almost any normal or traditional diet. So, you probably won't find any epidemiological support for supplementing with large quantities of tocotrienols.


Did you read the article nameless posted? The researchers in that article claim that tocotrienols should be taken separately from tocopherols and several hours apart because the body has preference for tocopherol which can affect absorption of tocotrienols. It could mean that FamilE is not a good source of tocotrienols if the data is correct.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 05:34 PM

All we need now is more promotion of palm oil products. Goodbye to the few remaining fragments of the Indonesian tropical forests, I guess. ;)

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 05:34 PM

Yes, I read the article that nameless posted, which has good tips for the essentially pharmacological use of tocotrienols. I am just pointing out that there is basically no good food source of tocotrienols and that they have never been well-represented in any traditional diet, which gives me a bit of pause.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:28 PM

can anyone find a list with the Tocotrienol content of foods?

Here is a nice little chart:

http://www.tocotrien...ex/sources.html

Unfortunately for the tropical forests, Palm does appear to come out tops in tocotrienol content. Oats and rice bran have somewhat signficiant amounts too.

As for consuming them in diet, I wonder what the typical tocotrienol intake is for various populations? Have there been any populations that consisted mainly on any of those food sources? Perhaps China/rice?

Edit: I notice the above chart leaves out Annato. I expect maybe because it does contain more tocotrienols than Palm? That particular site is Palm-oriented, due to it being from Carotech, so expect some bias.

Edited by nameless, 20 May 2009 - 06:43 PM.


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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:44 PM

As for consuming them in diet, I wonder what the typical tocotrienol intake is for various populations? Have there been any populations that consisted mainly on any of those food sources? Perhaps China/rice?


I don't think so -- those seemingly impressive numbers for rice are per 100g of *bran*, and I don't know how much rice you'd need to eat to get 100g of bran, but its probably a kilogram or more. And of course, white rice is entirely devoid of bran.

Edited by FunkOdyssey, 20 May 2009 - 06:45 PM.


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Posted 20 May 2009 - 06:59 PM

As for consuming them in diet, I wonder what the typical tocotrienol intake is for various populations? Have there been any populations that consisted mainly on any of those food sources? Perhaps China/rice?


I don't think so -- those seemingly impressive numbers for rice are per 100g of *bran*, and I don't know how much rice you'd need to eat to get 100g of bran, but its probably a kilogram or more. And of course, white rice is entirely devoid of bran.


Yeah, sorta very unlikely anyone consumes that much rice.

JLL's blog (very nice blog by the way), basically states it comes down to annato seeds and barley for tocotrienols via diet. So unless there is a megadosing society of annato seed/barley/palm people, I suppose population studies won't work so well.

Which is what makes me hesitant to supplement with tocotrienols. Quite a number of studies look promising though, so it is tempting.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 10:44 PM

This Product has the highest levels of Gamma E I've seen so far. It's made by Yasoo health which is a pharmaceutical grade supplement company (they make my prescription only multi)

http://www.stopaging...by-Yasoo-Health

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 01:00 AM

This Product has the highest levels of Gamma E I've seen so far. It's made by Yasoo health which is a pharmaceutical grade supplement company (they make my prescription only multi)

http://www.stopaging...by-Yasoo-Health


Is that the only Vitamin E supplement you take? The product you use has no tocotrienols.

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 01:13 AM

This Product has the highest levels of Gamma E I've seen so far. It's made by Yasoo health which is a pharmaceutical grade supplement company (they make my prescription only multi)

http://www.stopaging...by-Yasoo-Health


Is that the only Vitamin E supplement you take? The product you use has no tocotrienols.


No, I also take A.C. Grace's Tocotrienol Complex

http://www.iherb.com...gels/12977?at=0

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 01:27 AM

Here is a negative tocotrienol study on cholesterol I ran across --

http://www.ajcn.org/.../full/76/6/1237

Figured I'd post it, in case anyone was interested. They tested a palm and two rice bran supplements. No benefit, and the mixed palm actually raised LDL levels.

Biofactor -- Have you noticed any cholesterol improvement using the primarily delta tocotrienol found in the AC Grace product?

#28 Dmitri

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 06:11 AM

Here is a negative tocotrienol study on cholesterol I ran across --

http://www.ajcn.org/.../full/76/6/1237

Figured I'd post it, in case anyone was interested. They tested a palm and two rice bran supplements. No benefit, and the mixed palm actually raised LDL levels.

Biofactor -- Have you noticed any cholesterol improvement using the primarily delta tocotrienol found in the AC Grace product?


Those are food supplements and oils though, I believe I've seen positive studies on cholesterol with tocotrienols, I'll see if I can find them on pubmed.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 09:28 AM

Yes, I read the article that nameless posted, which has good tips for the essentially pharmacological use of tocotrienols. I am just pointing out that there is basically no good food source of tocotrienols and that they have never been well-represented in any traditional diet, which gives me a bit of pause.


True, but people on this forum are taking large doses of resveratrol too, even though intake in traditional diets is very low.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:18 PM

Yes, well I suspect the people that would not take tocotrienols for that reason are probably not on the resveratrol wagon either. :|w




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