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[1kgcoffee]

Alright, so I've been taking transmax for three months now. First at a conservative dose of 0.5-1grams. Then 1-1.5 and lately increased to 2-2.5. I've been taking this in combination with 5-8 pills of these OPCs http://www.billbeaut...m.php?itemId=48.

In the last couple weeks I've noticed a LOT more vascularity building up in my forearms. Tiny veins that I didn't even see at a lower bf%. My feet don't get nearly as cold anymore. Is this a normal healthy effect so soon, or am I going with too wreckless a dose?

-thanks

edit to add: I'm 23

Edited by 1kgcoffee, 28 May 2009 - 03:46 AM.

[2tender]

Increased vascularity is something I noticed at doses lower than yours and I dont think its bad. I wouldnt take over a gram daily though, couldnt afford it and I dont think you need that much to get the benefits if you are in reasonably good health and Im twice your age. Any digestive problems?

Edited by 2tender, 28 May 2009 - 07:05 AM.

[tunt01]

dose is way too much

[1kgcoffee]

Increased vascularity is something I noticed at doses lower than yours and I dont think its bad. I wouldnt take over a gram daily though, couldnt afford it and I dont think you need that much to get the benefits if you are in reasonably good health and Im twice your age. Any digestive problems?

No more digestive problems than before. There is hardly any emodin in it.

What dose should I back down to?

Edited by 1kgcoffee, 28 May 2009 - 12:03 PM.

[Anthony_Loera]

dose is way too much

I recommend no more than 500mg for every 50lbs, if you are using quality non-micronized resveratrol. 500mg for every 50 lbs is really the max dose I suggest for customers... Now, for the average healthy person under 45, 300-500mg is fine. Over 45? Consider 500mg and above...

Since you are taking quite a bit, you probably should get the latest COA from them, also.... Do they test every batch here in the USA?

Cheers
A

Edited by Anthony_Loera, 28 May 2009 - 01:49 PM.

[TianZi]

Increased vascularity is typically the result of two things: decreased body fat %, and increased strength training exercise volume / intensity.

If you have increased strength training volume / intensity in the period in question, then the increased vascularity you have observed would not be surprising, even if body fat % is about the same.

[Tim Jones]

Increased vascularity is typically the result of two things: decreased body fat %, and increased strength training exercise volume / intensity.

If you have increased strength training volume / intensity in the period in question, then the increased vascularity you have observed would not be surprising, even if body fat % is about the same.

Actually... Increased vascularity is typically caused by an increased RBC (Red blood cell), which you do see in very high dosages of T-Resveratrol. My advice would be to back down the dosage, or start watching your blood work extremely closely. Keep in mind that most of the data in animal studies shows that very high dosages are more life limiting than anything else. It descreases your risk of cancer, but at the expense of a shorter life...

Edited by Tim Jones, 18 June 2009 - 05:55 PM.

[yoyo]

Increased vascularity is typically the result of two things: decreased body fat %, and increased strength training exercise volume / intensity.

If you have increased strength training volume / intensity in the period in question, then the increased vascularity you have observed would not be surprising, even if body fat % is about the same.

Actually... Increased vascularity is typically caused by an increased RBC (Red blood cell), which you do see in very high dosages of T-Resveratrol. My advice would be to back down the dosage, or start watching your blood work extremely closely. Keep in mind that most of the data in animal studies shows that very high dosages are more life limiting than anything else. It descreases your risk of cancer, but at the expense of a shorter life...

are you saying rbc count increase->vascualar appearance, not just both being caused by aerobic training?

[maxwatt]

Increased vascularity is typically the result of two things: decreased body fat %, and increased strength training exercise volume / intensity.

If you have increased strength training volume / intensity in the period in question, then the increased vascularity you have observed would not be surprising, even if body fat % is about the same.

Actually... Increased vascularity is typically caused by an increased RBC (Red blood cell), which you do see in very high dosages of T-Resveratrol. My advice would be to back down the dosage, or start watching your blood work extremely closely. Keep in mind that most of the data in animal studies shows that very high dosages are more life limiting than anything else. It descreases your risk of cancer, but at the expense of a shorter life...

are you saying rbc count increase->vascualar appearance, not just both being caused by aerobic training?

I've read it is largely genetic. If you have the genetic endowment, and low enought body fat you will have prominent veins.

[Tim Jones]

Increased vascularity is typically the result of two things: decreased body fat %, and increased strength training exercise volume / intensity.

If you have increased strength training volume / intensity in the period in question, then the increased vascularity you have observed would not be surprising, even if body fat % is about the same.

Actually... Increased vascularity is typically caused by an increased RBC (Red blood cell), which you do see in very high dosages of T-Resveratrol. My advice would be to back down the dosage, or start watching your blood work extremely closely. Keep in mind that most of the data in animal studies shows that very high dosages are more life limiting than anything else. It descreases your risk of cancer, but at the expense of a shorter life...

are you saying rbc count increase->vascualar appearance, not just both being caused by aerobic training?

Low BF% for vascularity is a given. Aerobic training can help to some degree due to temporary nitric dilation effect, but you can eat a handful of M&M (or any simple sugar for that matter) to get the near same effect, which is what contest bodybuilders do before a show.

Also, hardness and vascularity can be achieved by many routes. The first is to increase potassium (fluid balance change). Most androgens (DHT) will also increase vascularity as well primarily by blocking estrogen formation which increases sodium retention (Lowering estrogen levels decreases sodium retention). Androgens have the added benefit, however, of giving a muscle hardness as well. When you see extreme vascularity, however, such as what you see in bodybuilders, this is caused by increased RDC levels. In fact, the best way to visually detect a long term steroid user is by looking at the veins on their arms/hands. Because of long term increased RDC levels, you will typically see that the individuals veins will be abnormally large in diameter.

[2tender]

As a generalization, that may not be true in all cases. I have seen this in steroid users, but I have also seen it in alcoholics and crack-heads, its a given they are not using anabolics or even exercising.

[1kgcoffee]

The increased RBC makes perfect sense come to think of it.

Increased vascularity is typically the result of two things: decreased body fat %, and increased strength training exercise volume / intensity.

If you have increased strength training volume / intensity in the period in question, then the increased vascularity you have observed would not be surprising, even if body fat % is about the same.

Actually... Increased vascularity is typically caused by an increased RBC (Red blood cell), which you do see in very high dosages of T-Resveratrol. My advice would be to back down the dosage, or start watching your blood work extremely closely. Keep in mind that most of the data in animal studies shows that very high dosages are more life limiting than anything else. It descreases your risk of cancer, but at the expense of a shorter life...

Wait, what? I thought that, although it doesn't increase maximum life span, it does keep you healthier for a regular life span. And what were considered high doses in those studies? If I remember, the mice on 400mg/kg seemed to do quite well, which is way more than I am taking.
Aren't more RBC's a good thing as long as you have enough antioxidants?

RE the strength training, I had actually been doing less around the time of the original post.

[1kgcoffee]

Also, hardness and vascularity can be achieved by many routes. The first is to increase potassium (fluid balance change). Most androgens (DHT) will also increase vascularity as well primarily by blocking estrogen formation which increases sodium retention (Lowering estrogen levels decreases sodium retention). Androgens have the added benefit, however, of giving a muscle hardness as well. When you see extreme vascularity, however, such as what you see in bodybuilders, this is caused by increased RDC levels. In fact, the best way to visually detect a long term steroid user is by looking at the veins on their arms/hands. Because of long term increased RDC levels, you will typically see that the individuals veins will be abnormally large in diameter.

Very interesting. What are RDC levels, or did you mean RBC?

[4eva]

One theory might be that you were biounavailable in copper. Polyphenols chelate copper and in that process of chelation puts copper into your bloodstream. Copper increases VEGF (vascular endothial growth factor).

I think your grandmother felt better from resv because it can reduce excess copper which is used to stop the growth of certain types of cancers (breast cancers for one).

There are some treatments that involve regular tests to measure ceruloplasmin. Copper is angiogenic. It basically helps cancer tumors to grown by increasing blood supply.

Those who take a copper chelation drug for some types of advanced stage cancers are checked regularly for how their copper status (ceruloplasmin) is changing or improving.

Synthetic estrogen can increase copper stores in the body.

There are some here that deny the resv copper chelation connection. But what is the common link with all the problems and benefits of users here? Resv may have some other active components but many of the changes seem to have a copper connection. Cancer in dogs improved, tendon problems, and feeling more energetic could be about reducing copper overload and that helps the adrenals.

If you find that resv helps or causes problems then why not have ceruloplasmin levels checked before and after supplementing if possible? Denying the connection doesn't seem like an effective strategy. But using some lab tests to document changes in copper seems like a plausible strategy to consider.

[kurdishfella]

oh wow i have to try this. did not know there were drugs/supps that benefit veins in any way. I wonder if you damage a surface vein and it collapses will the deeper veins get bigger and have more blood flow to make up for it. I think l dopa increases veins too.

Edited by kurdishfella, 02 April 2021 - 03:28 PM.