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[maxwatt]

Wouldn't a top tier scientist do more than just worry about his glucose levels? I'm neither top tier nor a scientist and I know enough to get a glucose monitoring kit rather than just speculate.

The doctor felt extreme fatigue and monitored his glucose levels, which showed they were "knocked down" taking 500mg of RevGenetics. There seem to be some here that do not have this issue, so interesting.

Resveratrol can affect glucose levels. If there is an abnormality in one's metabolism, it might exacerbate things. As he is a sample of one, there is no way of knowing if resveratrol had anything to do with his condition. He is right to discontinue to see if he improves, and one should in any case carefully monitor one's reactions when adding any new supplement particularly one potentially as powerful as resveratrol.

maxwatt, you can't seriously believe the info in Kurzweil's book is from 2007. I have a friend in publishing as well, and I have known a couple who have written books where they strived to keep it as current as possible. There is a very high probability that Kurzweil was taking 100mg as late as a few months ago. It is reasonable to assume that is what he is currently taking, especially knowing some taking 500mg or 1000mg get side effects. Kurzweil doesn't strike me as "adventerous".

The Glaxo pills are a mystery to me. In public, Sinclair and Westphal talk about a therapy for diabetes, and maybe for cancer (early results in September), yet they also claim that most will start taking a supplement as well within the next few years. They may have something besides SRT501 and SRT1702.

"Likely" is not the same as "probable", and is far less certain than "definitely". We do not really know what Kurzweil is taking now. Even if we did, Kurzweil is a showman, a P.T. Barnum of scientific futurism. He is famous for being famous. There is no reason to believe he has any particular expertise in this area.

Glaxo cannot market any drugs without completing Phase III testing, which can be followed through the FDA's website. There are no secrets.

[bluemoon]

"Likely" is not the same as "probable", and is far less certain than "definitely". We do not really know what Kurzweil is taking now. Even if we did, Kurzweil is a showman, a P.T. Barnum of scientific futurism. He is famous for being famous. There is no reason to believe he has any particular expertise in this area.

We know what Kurzweil was taking several months ago. Is he supposed to report in every month?
he may be a PT Barnum of futurism to you, but Kurzweil, with 12 honorary PhDs, has created impressive keyboards and aids for the blind.

He also has a group of impressive scientists consulting with him, including health.

[niner]

"Likely" is not the same as "probable", and is far less certain than "definitely". We do not really know what Kurzweil is taking now. Even if we did, Kurzweil is a showman, a P.T. Barnum of scientific futurism. He is famous for being famous. There is no reason to believe he has any particular expertise in this area.

We know what Kurzweil was taking several months ago. Is he supposed to report in every month?
he may be a PT Barnum of futurism to you, but Kurzweil, with 12 honorary PhDs, has created impressive keyboards and aids for the blind.

He also has a group of impressive scientists consulting with him, including health.

It's kind of bizarre that Ray Kurzweil has become the subject of this thread rather than resveratrol, but there you go. He is a hell of an engineer and has done some cool things. (A friend of mine used to work for him, and I've been aware of his work for literally decades.) I respect him for that stuff. However, I find it interesting that those of us in the pharmaceutical and health sciences fields, which are not Kurzweil's area of study, and, I might add, including those of us with real PhDs... are not particularly impressed by his resveratrol choices. Obviously, you don't agree with us, in that you counter every argument we offer, albeit with the same thing each time: Kurzweil is a genius who really really cares about his health, and he has "impressive" albeit nameless scientific consultants, so what he does is an important data point. You are very impressed by "scientific" authority and big names, to the extent that you are willing to ignore the obvious defects in his regimen, and unwilling to consider that he may be wrong on this one. Why don't you give it a rest?

[maxwatt]

"Likely" is not the same as "probable", and is far less certain than "definitely". We do not really know what Kurzweil is taking now. Even if we did, Kurzweil is a showman, a P.T. Barnum of scientific futurism. He is famous for being famous. There is no reason to believe he has any particular expertise in this area.

We know what Kurzweil was taking several months ago. Is he supposed to report in every month?
he may be a PT Barnum of futurism to you, but Kurzweil, with 12 honorary PhDs, has created impressive keyboards and aids for the blind.

He also has a group of impressive scientists consulting with him, including health.

It's kind of bizarre that Ray Kurzweil has become the subject of this thread rather than resveratrol, but there you go. He is a hell of an engineer and has done some cool things. (A friend of mine used to work for him, and I've been aware of his work for literally decades.) I respect him for that stuff. However, I find it interesting that those of us in the pharmaceutical and health sciences fields, which are not Kurzweil's area of study, and, I might add, including those of us with real PhDs... are not particularly impressed by his resveratrol choices. Obviously, you don't agree with us, in that you counter every argument we offer, albeit with the same thing each time: Kurzweil is a genius who really really cares about his health, and he has "impressive" albeit nameless scientific consultants, so what he does is an important data point. You are very impressed by "scientific" authority and big names, to the extent that you are willing to ignore the obvious defects in his regimen, and unwilling to consider that he may be wrong on this one. Why don't you give it a rest?

I'm going to give it a rest. This topic has strayed from meaningful discussion about resveratrol, as niner says. Topic closed.