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[ConcernedAirTraveler]

In searching out news concerning H1N1 flu and whether or not it might develop into a threat, related data turned up on a site named:

ZeroHedge.

There is a lot of counterpoint going on here. Many are skeptical and others think it may be worse than the originator of the topic thinks, but in any case there are numerous further links to high-volume media as well as government websites. The lead paragraph from this posting is:

Last night Zero Hedge obtained some interesting documents from the CDC web site. They contain blank 'forced quarantine' orders from Iowa and Florida regarding novel H1N1 -- including quarantine to a 'secure detention center'-- which appear to be recent -- dated April 2009. Some may be aware the NIH and CDC just held an H1N1 conference in DC -- August 19-21 2009 -- that focused on 'mass fatality management'. For many, this should be cause for concern. As is becoming clear, our government is quite corrupt. The idea that this same government is now preparing for forced quarantine and mass vaccination should make anyone who has been following recent events shudder. There is something going on here, but governments have not come clean with the public. Why 'secure detention centers' in the U.S. and 'secure vaccination centers' in France if there is nothing to be concerned about? It is becoming increasingly clear that a global mass vaccination campaign is planned -- likely to become mandatory in the 193 WHO member countries, despite serious safety concerns regarding these untested novel H1N1 vaccines, some of which are now known to contain high levels of the deadly adjuvent squalene.

When the post immediately below on baggage being checked was made, none of the other aspects of possible government manipulation were searched out. Perhaps others could have a look and offer an opinion? I'd be especially interested in russianBEAR's thoughts.

ConcernedAirTraveler

Edited by ConcernedAirTraveler, 02 September 2009 - 04:49 PM.

[niner]

When the post immediately below on baggage being checked was made, none of the other aspects of possible government manipulation were searched out. Perhaps others could have a look and offer an opinion?

Shoop shoop shoop shoop... Here come the Black Helicopters. This is a paranoid site. Relax.

[russianBEAR]

Responses such as niner's are exactly what the government is looking for by the way, you're doing your duty serving them good job. 

Let's just not question anything and assume they have your best interests in mind. 

Anyways, do you guys know exactly what they put in these vaccines? I don't. Maybe it's an actual vaccine which could give you some allergies as a side effect or maybe it's something else entirely. With the way technologies are it might be those famous "chips" for mind control.

They've already been widely used in people with various forms of brain degeneration according to my friend who works in the field. What's stopping them from injecting anything they want ? Maybe it will be a virus to kill off millions or something that causes mutations.

Basically I don't trust the government because we are nothing but walking pieces of meat to them. If the interrogators can take the things in life you hold most dear and tear them apart to brainwash you and get info out of you in the most inhumane way (that includes injecting all kinds of substances into you with no regard for anything) then what's stopping them from putting anything in there as "vaccine"? 

They want people to be compliant - good enough to perform their job, but not smart enough to ask too many questions. Thus they came up with the label "conspiracy theorists" so people can easily be labeled as such.


If you know how the gov't security services work and what they're taught about how to interrogate people, gather info, etc. you'd know that their methods are barbaric and totally inhumane. I'm not gonna sit here and try to create some mass hysteria out of it, but let's just say if you're willingly allowing yourself to be injected with something that is a product of a different hysteria...then you might pay the price.

Edited by russianBEAR, 03 September 2009 - 10:19 AM.

[castrensis]

A news article regarding the Pandemic Response Bill already passed by the Mass. Senate. Notably, the feds have shot down any suggestions that vaccinations would be mandatory or that ill people will be restricted access to airlines here.

[niner]

Of course I'm a well known Tool. I've actually been planted here by the Real Government, the shadowy cabal of elites that installed Obama. We run everything, so there's no way to escape us. My job at ImmInst is to keep people believing in "reality", while making sure that the Real Truth isn't discovered. It's a bitchin gig. You should see my cool FTL spacecraft with visual cloaking. And I have this ray gun; if I don't like someone, I can just silently shoot them and they will get cancer a few weeks later. I can send the same rays over the internet and make them jump out of your monitor, too. Fear me.

[castrensis]

A few additions:

Mercola using scare tactics to dissuade people from receiving a flu vaccine containing adjuvants. This is equivalent to tree-hugging hippies frightening starving people in Africa into refusing aid because the crops were genetically modified.

WHO's fact page on Squalene.

Additionally, it's not uncommon for people who are infected with particularly virulent diseases who have proven they're incapable of the discipline required to maintain self-quarantine & compliance with treatment to be quarantined, e.g. multi-drug resistant tuberculosis or extreme multi-drug resistant tuberculosis. Occasionally criminal charges are brought against these people, as when a person with known HIV infection intentionally spreads the disease by copulating with others without disclosing their HIV+ status. Personally, I have no objection to these practices.

[niner]

Additionally, it's not uncommon for people who are infected with particularly virulent diseases who have proven they're incapable of the discipline required to maintain self-quarantine & compliance with treatment to be quarantined, e.g. multi-drug resistant tuberculosis or extreme multi-drug resistant tuberculosis. Occasionally criminal charges are brought against these people, as when a person with known HIV infection intentionally spreads the disease by copulating with others without disclosing their HIV+ status. Personally, I have no objection to these practices.

Thanks for bringing this up, cast. I'm fine with these practices. Hell, I hope the government is planning for the worst case scenario; that's what they ought to be doing. If someone with a lethal, highly contagious infection wants to get on the same plane as me, I want them stopped. Shoot 'em if need be. No one has a "right" to infect other people.

[russianBEAR]

Of course I'm a well known Tool. I've actually been planted here by the Real Government, the shadowy cabal of elites that installed Obama. We run everything, so there's no way to escape us. My job at ImmInst is to keep people believing in "reality", while making sure that the Real Truth isn't discovered. It's a bitchin gig. You should see my cool FTL spacecraft with visual cloaking. And I have this ray gun; if I don't like someone, I can just silently shoot them and they will get cancer a few weeks later. I can send the same rays over the internet and make them jump out of your monitor, too. Fear me.

No offense, but knowing even the unimportant "lower-chain" elitists you wouldn't even cut it as a janitor for the Templars, not even talking about the Atlantis inhabitants, Zionists and free-masons. 

[Vgamer1]

My grandpa is a free-mason

I don't know anything about it though, except the handshake

[Ben]

Of course I'm a well known Tool. I've actually been planted here by the Real Government, the shadowy cabal of elites that installed Obama. We run everything, so there's no way to escape us. My job at ImmInst is to keep people believing in "reality", while making sure that the Real Truth isn't discovered. It's a bitchin gig. You should see my cool FTL spacecraft with visual cloaking. And I have this ray gun; if I don't like someone, I can just silently shoot them and they will get cancer a few weeks later. I can send the same rays over the internet and make them jump out of your monitor, too. Fear me.

Tell us something we don't know.

Mole!!!!!!!