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Confused about Omega 3-6-9 Ratio (And now adding 7's to the mix)


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#1 EdwardCTV

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 11:04 PM


I am currently taking an Omega 3-6-9 supplement...

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the only other oils i consume for cooking are Olive & Coconut.....


how do i know if my omega's are balanced or not???

would i be better off with just an Omega 3? (but is it possible to overload on omega 3's versus 6)???

heres some literature in support of why you should take an omega 3-6-9 as opposed to just an omega 3..

Borage oil from Omega 3-6-9 supplements usually contain 24% GLA, and the amount of GLA in the Borage oil itself is between 20% and 27%.

It’s good to take GLA supplements to help the body attain and maintain a healthy balance. The body has the ability to obtain GLA from linoleic acids, found in omega 6 oils which include safflower, sunflower and corn oils. However, over-consumption of these oils, as is typical today, can inhibit the body’s uptake of GLA as it becomes more difficult to convert linoleic acid to GLA.

Taking a GLA supplement or eating GLA-rich foods can help to redress such an unhealthy balance, and put you on the road to a happier body and healthier you.



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Omega fatty acids are polyunsaturated fats. They are healthier than saturated fats and have many metabolic functions. There are many benefits of omega 3 6 9 supplementation.

Omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids are essential fatty acids (EFA’s). Our bodies cannot manufacture them, and we must consume them in our diets. Omega 9 fatty acids are not essential. Our bodies need omega 9 fats, but we can manufacture them from other sources.

Omega 3 fatty acids prevent heart disease and the complications of heart attack. People who take omega 3 fatty acids have a lower mortality rate after heart attack than those who do not.

Omega 3 EFA’s improve cardiac risk factors, and help prevent CHD. They normalize lipid levels, lower blood pressure and improve glucose metabolism.

Omega 3’s may be helpful in a number of other conditions, to. Rheumatoid arthritis, depression, autism, and many other conditions may be improved by taking omega 3 EFA’s. They are necessary for growth and development, especially in the development of nervous tissue, and may improve cognitive function and emotional health.

Omega 6 fatty acids compete for enzymes with omega 3 EFA’s, so the amounts of the two need to be properly balanced. Less research has been done on omega 6 EFA’s than on omega 3’s. Most omega 6 fatty acids produce an inflammatory response that may be necessary for healthy immune system function. Research is beginning to indicate that one omega 6 EFA is, however, a powerful anti-inflammatory agent, and may be even more important for healthy hearts than omega 3 oils.

Omega 9, as mentioned, is not an essential fatty acid. Omega 9 oils are monounsaturated, and are found in olive oil. Olive oil is known to have beneficial health effects, and omega 9 oils may be necessary for healthy immune system functioning.

The benefits of omega 3 6 9 include all of the benefits of all three types of fatty acid. The amounts and ratios of each fatty acid are balanced to optimal levels of each. Taking an omega 3 6 9 supplement is a good way to ensure that you are getting essential nutrients for your good health




i was thinking of adding omega 7 from seabuckthorn oil..

heres a quote about seabuckthorn

Skin Restorative Scientists believe our most delicate body tissues, like the skin and the mucous membranes that line the digestive and urogenital tracts, have the greatest affinity for Omega 7 fatty acids. Environmental stressors (such as sunlight and pollution), improper foods and even normal aging can challenge those sensitive membranes, and Omega 7 fatty acids are now being hailed as nourishment that may protect, replenish, moisturize and restore. Buckthorn's "rescue role" are a naturally occurring rich array of carotenoids, tocopherols, tocotrienols and sterols. To complete the protective benefits, this product adds supercritical extracts of Calendula and Rosemary, which both have profound anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties.




how would omega 7s fit into the equation?

some1 please enlighten me

#2 niner

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 03:14 AM

i was thinking of adding omega 7 from seabuckthorn oil..

heres a quote about seabuckthorn

Skin Restorative Scientists believe our most delicate body tissues, like the skin and the mucous membranes that line the digestive and urogenital tracts, have the greatest affinity for Omega 7 fatty acids. Environmental stressors (such as sunlight and pollution), improper foods and even normal aging can challenge those sensitive membranes, and Omega 7 fatty acids are now being hailed as nourishment that may protect, replenish, moisturize and restore. Buckthorn's "rescue role" are a naturally occurring rich array of carotenoids, tocopherols, tocotrienols and sterols. To complete the protective benefits, this product adds supercritical extracts of Calendula and Rosemary, which both have profound anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties.

how would omega 7s fit into the equation?

Hard to say if you need omega 7 or not. The quote above certainly sounds like it's designed to make people want to buy their sea buckthorn product. Sea buckthorn contains a lot of flavonoids and other compounds as they mention. Some of them have useful properties. The seed oil appears to be helpful in healing burn wounds.

Food Chem Toxicol. 2009 Jun;47(6):1146-53.
Safety and healing efficacy of Sea buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides L.) seed oil on burn wounds in rats.
Upadhyay NK, Kumar R, Mandotra SK, Meena RN, Siddiqui MS, Sawhney RC, Gupta A.

Department of Biochemical Pharmacology, Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences, Timarpur, Delhi 110054, India.

The present investigation was undertaken to determine the safety and efficacy of supercritical CO2-extracted Hippophae rhamnoides L. (Sea buckthorn) (SBT) seed oil on burn wound model. SBT seed oil was co-administered by two routes at a dose of 2.5 ml/kg body weight (p.o.) and 200 microl (topical) for 7 days on experimental burn wounds in rats. The SBT seed oil augmented the wound healing process as indicated by significant increase in wound contraction, hydroxyproline, hexosamine, DNA and total protein contents in comparison to control and reference control treated with silver sulfadiazine (SS) ointment. Histopathological findings further confirmed the healing potential of SBT seed oil. SBT seed oil treatment up-regulated the expression of matrix metalloproteinases (MMP-2 and 9), collagen type-III and VEGF in granulation tissue. It was observed that SBT seed oil also possesses antioxidant properties as evidenced by significant increase in reduced glutathione (GSH) level and reduced production of reactive oxygen species (ROS) in wound granulation tissue. In acute and sub-acute oral toxicity studies, no adverse effects were observed in any of the groups administered with SBT seed oil. These results suggest that the supercritical CO2-extracted Sea buckthorn seed oil possesses significant wound healing activity and have no associated toxicity or side effects.

PMID: 19425187

I'm a bit concerned about the upregulation of MMP's. This would probably be great in a wound situation, but that's not something you want a lot of in healthy tissue. It's role is to break down tissue. Good for remodeling where needed, but might lead to wrinkles or other damage if present in excess.
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#3 EdwardCTV

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:13 AM

i was thinking of adding omega 7 from seabuckthorn oil..

heres a quote about seabuckthorn

Skin Restorative Scientists believe our most delicate body tissues, like the skin and the mucous membranes that line the digestive and urogenital tracts, have the greatest affinity for Omega 7 fatty acids. Environmental stressors (such as sunlight and pollution), improper foods and even normal aging can challenge those sensitive membranes, and Omega 7 fatty acids are now being hailed as nourishment that may protect, replenish, moisturize and restore. Buckthorn's "rescue role" are a naturally occurring rich array of carotenoids, tocopherols, tocotrienols and sterols. To complete the protective benefits, this product adds supercritical extracts of Calendula and Rosemary, which both have profound anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties.

how would omega 7s fit into the equation?

Hard to say if you need omega 7 or not. The quote above certainly sounds like it's designed to make people want to buy their sea buckthorn product. Sea buckthorn contains a lot of flavonoids and other compounds as they mention. Some of them have useful properties. The seed oil appears to be helpful in healing burn wounds.

Food Chem Toxicol. 2009 Jun;47(6):1146-53.
Safety and healing efficacy of Sea buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides L.) seed oil on burn wounds in rats.
Upadhyay NK, Kumar R, Mandotra SK, Meena RN, Siddiqui MS, Sawhney RC, Gupta A.

Department of Biochemical Pharmacology, Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences, Timarpur, Delhi 110054, India.

The present investigation was undertaken to determine the safety and efficacy of supercritical CO2-extracted Hippophae rhamnoides L. (Sea buckthorn) (SBT) seed oil on burn wound model. SBT seed oil was co-administered by two routes at a dose of 2.5 ml/kg body weight (p.o.) and 200 microl (topical) for 7 days on experimental burn wounds in rats. The SBT seed oil augmented the wound healing process as indicated by significant increase in wound contraction, hydroxyproline, hexosamine, DNA and total protein contents in comparison to control and reference control treated with silver sulfadiazine (SS) ointment. Histopathological findings further confirmed the healing potential of SBT seed oil. SBT seed oil treatment up-regulated the expression of matrix metalloproteinases (MMP-2 and 9), collagen type-III and VEGF in granulation tissue. It was observed that SBT seed oil also possesses antioxidant properties as evidenced by significant increase in reduced glutathione (GSH) level and reduced production of reactive oxygen species (ROS) in wound granulation tissue. In acute and sub-acute oral toxicity studies, no adverse effects were observed in any of the groups administered with SBT seed oil. These results suggest that the supercritical CO2-extracted Sea buckthorn seed oil possesses significant wound healing activity and have no associated toxicity or side effects.

PMID: 19425187

I'm a bit concerned about the upregulation of MMP's. This would probably be great in a wound situation, but that's not something you want a lot of in healthy tissue. It's role is to break down tissue. Good for remodeling where needed, but might lead to wrinkles or other damage if present in excess.


can you clarify on that a little bit..

if upregulation of MMPs help in wound situations how exactly would it lead to wrinkles if present in excess?
wouldnt it do the opposite?

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:44 AM

As far as I know marketing companies add 6 and 9 for cosmetic purposes. It just seems more complete so ppl buy it. You shouldn't be supplementing with omega 6, and 7 and 9 are non-essential fatty acids so our bodies can produce it.
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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:07 PM

As far as I know marketing companies add 6 and 9 for cosmetic purposes. It just seems more complete so ppl buy it. You shouldn't be supplementing with omega 6, and 7 and 9 are non-essential fatty acids so our bodies can produce it.


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Posted 24 September 2009 - 04:36 PM

As far as I know marketing companies add 6 and 9 for cosmetic purposes. It just seems more complete so ppl buy it. You shouldn't be supplementing with omega 6, and 7 and 9 are non-essential fatty acids so our bodies can produce it.


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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:39 PM

As far as I know marketing companies add 6 and 9 for cosmetic purposes. It just seems more complete so ppl buy it. You shouldn't be supplementing with omega 6, and 7 and 9 are non-essential fatty acids so our bodies can produce it.


What if you're not on a traditionally "amercian" diet - in other words, not eating hamburgers 3 times a week? How about vegetarians? Do they get enough Omega 6?

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 07:57 PM

As far as I know marketing companies add 6 and 9 for cosmetic purposes. It just seems more complete so ppl buy it. You shouldn't be supplementing with omega 6, and 7 and 9 are non-essential fatty acids so our bodies can produce it.


What if you're not on a traditionally "amercian" diet - in other words, not eating hamburgers 3 times a week? How about vegetarians? Do they get enough Omega 6?

They might get too much. It depends on what they eat. If they use a lot of cheap vegetable oils, they probably get too much.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 05:12 AM

As far as I know marketing companies add 6 and 9 for cosmetic purposes. It just seems more complete so ppl buy it. You shouldn't be supplementing with omega 6, and 7 and 9 are non-essential fatty acids so our bodies can produce it.


What if you're not on a traditionally "amercian" diet - in other words, not eating hamburgers 3 times a week? How about vegetarians? Do they get enough Omega 6?


burgers would be mostly saturated fat, not omega6 which is a polyunsaturated fat. its unlikely anyone, vegetarian or not, would be deficient in n-6 unless theyre on a very lowfat diet.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Dietary_fat
http://www.hsph.harv...tory/index.html




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