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[csrpj]

what are good supps for reducing the amount of sleep time you need and still feel rested?

one day last week, i had piracetam + choline in the evening, and woke up super alert/awake 6.5 hours later instead of the usual 11 hours. haven't had a chance to repeat that experiment yet as i ran out of choline, but i suspect it's the choline. or maybe not? if it is the choline, is the best choline source for better/less-required sleep the same source which is best in general, or are the benefits of each in different aspects? (i realize they're supposed to do the same thing, but i thought alpha is good for hg increase, whereas cdp for other things...?)

[Zoroaster]

regular rhodiola use is supposed to decrease the need for sleep. Its also a great sup overall IMO. I also do calorie restriction and have noticed a fairly pronounced decreased need for sleep.

[425runner]

You'll have to train your body to function on less sleep. I usually get 4-5 hr/night, 6 if I'm lucky ;-) I take 1/2 of Adrafinil, 1 capsule of AMP (Ergopharm) and 1,3 dimethyalanine (Primaforce), Pramiracetam and Alpha-GPC to keep my mind sharp and focused, daily multivitamin, Magnesium and a few other supps. Eating more protein and less carbs helps to prevent sleepiness during the day. I also execise, run 45 minutes first thing in the morning which keeps me energized for the rest of the day.

Good luck!


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regular rhodiola use is supposed to decrease the need for sleep. Its also a great sup overall IMO. I also do calorie restriction and have noticed a fairly pronounced decreased need for sleep.
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[mikelebp1]

I have been experimenting with this, to some degree. I am in my 1st year of law school and I don't have a set sleep schedule because sometimes I just have to stay up to get stuff done, and I will wake up early to finish things. I am talking like going to bed a 2 AM waking up at 630 or 7AM every day M-F, but I think what hurts me is I will sleep in on the weekends, and that will ruin your schedule. It was already said, that you want to create a schedule, it just needs to be consistent. Also, every hour you sleep before 12 counts as 2 hours or something like that, I couldn't tell you why though. I take melatonin or 5-HTP just because I think it helps put me in a deeper sleep, but I have nothing remarkable to say about that. My biggest problem is getting my brain in gear.

[spaceistheplace]

plenty of water, exercise, and a healthy diet should bring the body's need for sleep down. if you can do that then you won't need supplements.

[csrpj]

plenty of water, exercise, and a healthy diet should bring the body's need for sleep down. if you can do that then you won't need supplements.

as far as exercise, does weighlifting or cardio contribute to this aspect and other aspects of health more?

[425runner]

i go jogging 5 days a week at 3:30 am in the morning and it really perks me up. Weight lifiting makes me very tired and lethargic afterwards, but aerobic exercise keep me in a good mood and alert throughout the day. Just my 2 cents

plenty of water, exercise, and a healthy diet should bring the body's need for sleep down. if you can do that then you won't need supplements.

as far as exercise, does weighlifting or cardio contribute to this aspect and other aspects of health more?

[Pike]

healthy sleep is vital to the consolidation of memories...