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[acantelopepope]

Temporarily.

Last Friday night I wanted to get to sleep early and minimize my REM, so I took 1.2g Phenibut + 600mg GABA. Strangely, I didn't fall asleep until about 4AM. I woke up at 9AM and felt almost completely refreshed... And I felt better than I had for a few months.

I didn't take anything to help me sleep that night. Sunday my brain fog was back.

Tuesday night I tried just the Phenibut at 1g. Wednesday I had, once again, a high degree of lucidity. Since I had an interview and midterm Thursday, I tried the same thing Wednesday night. Thursday I was feeling pretty positive, though more tired, with a little less concentration. Since I know tolerance develops fast for Phenibut, I didn't take any Thursday or Friday.... and both days did not go well.

How could Phenibut allow me to feel better on 4-5 hours of sleep than I have in maybe 2 months with consistent 8-9 hours of sleep? It just doesn't add up.

[FunkOdyssey]

Phenibut's rebound effect is a sort of PEA-powered dopaminergic high in itself (this is what you enjoyed the following day), although this really only manifests significantly during the beginning honeymoon period of use. This will fade along with the acute positive effects with continued use, tolerance and dependence.

Edited by FunkOdyssey, 04 October 2009 - 08:18 AM.

[acantelopepope]

Phenibut's rebound effect is a sort of PEA-powered dopaminergic high in itself (this is what you enjoyed the following day), although this really only manifests significantly during the beginning honeymoon period of use. This will fade along with the acute positive effects with continued use, tolerance and dependence.

If this is indeed the case, how else might I reproduce the effects, in a more reliable manner? At this point, I simply cannot focus enough to function at the level I need to in order to do my course reading and paper-writing.

Another thought I had was that the Phenibut allowed me to get deep, restorative sleep that I had not had in a long time. With the Phenibut I slept very solidly, once I did fall asleep, and had minimal dreaming.

In my struggle with dysthymia, I'm looking for ways to decrease REM sleep and increase deep, stage IV sleep. Trazodone doesn't seem to be doing it for me quite yet.

[FunkOdyssey]

If this is indeed the case, how else might I reproduce the effects, in a more reliable manner? At this point, I simply cannot focus enough to function at the level I need to in order to do my course reading and paper-writing.

The most reliable way to reproduce the phenibut rebound effect would be a low dose of amphetamine which is easily obtained by saying this:

I simply cannot focus enough to function at the level I need to in order to do my course reading and paper-writing.

..to a doctor.

[acantelopepope]

If this is indeed the case, how else might I reproduce the effects, in a more reliable manner? At this point, I simply cannot focus enough to function at the level I need to in order to do my course reading and paper-writing.

The most reliable way to reproduce the phenibut rebound effect would be a low dose of amphetamine which is easily obtained by saying this:

I simply cannot focus enough to function at the level I need to in order to do my course reading and paper-writing.

..to a doctor.

methylphenidate doesnt do anything positive for me.

[medievil]

If this is indeed the case, how else might I reproduce the effects, in a more reliable manner? At this point, I simply cannot focus enough to function at the level I need to in order to do my course reading and paper-writing.

The most reliable way to reproduce the phenibut rebound effect would be a low dose of amphetamine which is easily obtained by saying this:

I simply cannot focus enough to function at the level I need to in order to do my course reading and paper-writing.

..to a doctor.

methylphenidate doesnt do anything positive for me.

Ritalin sucks, try amphetamine.