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[SPAWN0517]

Hello all.... I been reading countless regimens and wanted to share mine. This regimen took me countless hours and 2 sleepless nights to put together... I am very satisfied with how I been feeling with my first 2 weeks... All suggestions and comments welcome especially the combinations I have created... Ok I hope everybody has a healthy day!!

Empty Stomach Morning (30 MINUTES BEFORE BREAKFAST)
NSI R-Lipoic Acid Bio-enhanced Na-RALA --300 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Acetyl L-Carnitine HCl & Acetyl L-Carnitine Arginate (350MG & 250MG) (1 CAPSULE)
NSI L-Taurine -- 850 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Longevatrol Stabilized Polyphenol Complex -- 200 mg (1 SOFTGEL)
NSI FlavenZym Systemic Enzymes (1 TABLET)

Breakfast
NSI DHEA Time Released -- 5 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI D-Ribose Bioenergy Ribose™ -- 5 g per serving (1 Teaspoon (5 grams))
Source Naturals Chromium GTF 200 mcg Vanadium 1mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Ginger Root -- 1,100 mg per serving (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Ginseng Extract Complex -- 400 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI 42 Fruits & Vegetables -- 700 mg per serving (1 CAPSULE)
NSI EpiCor High Metabolite Immunogens -- 500 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI® Super ORAC Antioxidant Complex 600 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Lyc-O-Mato Lycopene -- 15 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Calcium & Magnesium (250mg,125mg)(2 CAPSULES)
NSI B 100 COMPLEX (1 CAPSULE)

Lunch
NSI Carotene Complex with Pro Vitamin A -- 10000 IU (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Betatene -- 25,000 IU (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) -- 1000 IU (1 CAPSULE)
NSI ToCoQ10 -- 100 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI 100% Natural Vitamin E -- 1,000 IU ( 1 CAPSULE)
NSI Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM with Vitamin C (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Manganese -- 10 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI High Selenium Yeast -- 200 mcg (1 CAPSULE)
Black Currant Oil -- 1,000 mg (1 CAPSULE)
L-Glutathione Plus CoQ10 -- 250 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Ultimate Immunity Formula w/AHCC & Antioxidants (2 CAPSULES)
NSI KriaXanthin™ Antarctic Krill Oil with Natural Astaxanthin -- 500 mg

Dinner
NSI® Probiotic 15-35 with NutraFlora® FOS (2 CAPSULES) *immeadiately before dinner
NSI Vitamin K2 (MK-7) from Natto Extract -- 100 micrograms (1 CAPSULE}
Twinlab Copper Caps -- 2 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Potassium Citrate -- 99 mg (1 CAPSULE}
NSI Boron Chelate -- 3 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Turmeric Extract Curcumin C3 Complex® with Bioperine® -- 1160 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Aged Garlic Extract with Red Yeast Rice (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Betaine HCl with Pepsin -- 650 mg (1 CAPSULE)
NSI Calcium & Magnesium (250mg,125mg)(2 CAPSULES)
NSI Chromium GTF 200MCG (1 CAPSULE)
NSI L-OptiZinc -- 30 mg (1 CAPSULE)

Empty Stomach Night (30 MINUTES BEFORE SLEEPING)
NSI Melatonin -- 1 mg (1 CAPSULE)
IP6 500MG (1 CAPSULE)

I also take Fo-Ti extract 2000mg once during the day..

[FunkOdyssey]

I do not trust NSI as a brand. They have failed all kinds of consumer lab testing.

[SPAWN0517]

I do not trust NSI as a brand. They have failed all kinds of consumer lab testing.

Well don't want to get in a debate about NSI... I am very happy with the way I been feeling... They use a lot of trademark brands in there supplements... I use to use exclusively only NOW and a little bit of Source Naturals.. I really like Now but NSI is cheaper and if not better NSI gives me the sense of well being and a bunch of energy at the gym.. I also read about consumer lab reports and they are a shady company as they don't tell the manufacturer wwhat batch they did a lab test and this doesn't allow the company to fix if in fact there is something wrong with there products... Besides the brand do you think this is a good regimen??Any suggestions??? I have read many of your post and you are very knoledgeble when it comes to supplements..

Edited by SPAWN0517, 09 October 2009 - 06:40 PM.

[Esoparagon]

Wow. That looks really intense. Is it worth it? Does it really have any effect? I'd love to try it but I won't have that kind of money to burn for a long time.

[nameless]

I also read about consumer lab reports and they are a shady company as they don't tell the manufacturer wwhat batch they did a lab test and this doesn't allow the company to fix if in fact there is something wrong with there products...

I would have to second the concerns stated by FunkOdyssey. NSI may be better now, due to becoming GMP certifed, but their past problems would concern me. I certainly wouldn't suggest you take every supplement (and so many) made by NSI.

And as for Consumer Labs, their business model may be somewhat suspect, but if a company fails a test... they still failed. Consumers randomly consume supplements from various batches too, so I don't see how that matters. It simply means that company has a quality control issue.

Regimen-wise, all I can say is it appears you are taking too many things. I suggest using Cronometer and see what is lacking in your diet, and either change your diet or supplement based on deficiencies.

A couple of things do stand out:

High dose manganese... not sure that is so wise.
High dose A -- no evidence it really is of benefit, and it's a possible risk. Even if you go with the Weston Price theory, I think they suggest retinol over beta carotene.
Too much vitamin E, selenium (possible diabetes risk with that one).
I'd probably go with a good fish oil, over NSI KriaXanthin. Or if you want krill, use Neptune instead. Or maybe Azantis.
Potassium supplement is a waste, as it provides 3% of RDA. Just eat foods with potassium instead, if you need it.

Not sure about Taurine, as FunkOddysey recently posted in a different thread about continuous dosing possibly being a cause of anxiety, but that may be only at higher dosing.

And I assume you are getting blood tests for DHEA and Vit D? You really can't properly dose vit D without knowing serum levels.

[FunkOdyssey]

I do not trust NSI as a brand. They have failed all kinds of consumer lab testing.

Well don't want to get in a debate about NSI... I am very happy with the way I been feeling... They use a lot of trademark brands in there supplements... I use to use exclusively only NOW and a little bit of Source Naturals.. I really like Now but NSI is cheaper and if not better NSI gives me the sense of well being and a bunch of energy at the gym.. I also read about consumer lab reports and they are a shady company as they don't tell the manufacturer wwhat batch they did a lab test and this doesn't allow the company to fix if in fact there is something wrong with there products... Besides the brand do you think this is a good regimen??Any suggestions??? I have read many of your post and you are very knoledgeble when it comes to supplements..

I think there is too much of some B vitamins (across-the-board high dose b-complex is not optimal), too much Vit. E, probably not enough Vitamin D (depends on your lab results), too much beta-carotene, too much manganese, 99mg of potassium serves no purpose, and lipoic acid has alot of questions and doubt surrounding it, so much so that I personally would not currently take it.

edit: looks like nameless said alot of the same. About taurine, 300mg is apparently a typical daily intake for a meat eater, and I doubt anything negative would come from supplementation in the 500-1000mg range even in the long-term, just my opinion. I was taking 4 grams daily for a year, so quite a bit more than that.

Edited by FunkOdyssey, 09 October 2009 - 07:22 PM.

[FunkOdyssey]

I also missed the DHEA initially, the wisdom of that depends on your age, sex, current DHEA-S level, etc but if you are young I would recommend against it.

[SPAWN0517]

I also read about consumer lab reports and they are a shady company as they don't tell the manufacturer wwhat batch they did a lab test and this doesn't allow the company to fix if in fact there is something wrong with there products...

I would have to second the concerns stated by FunkOdyssey. NSI may be better now, due to becoming GMP certifed, but their past problems would concern me. I certainly wouldn't suggest you take every supplement (and so many) made by NSI.

And as for Consumer Labs, their business model may be somewhat suspect, but if a company fails a test... they still failed. Consumers randomly consume supplements from various batches too, so I don't see how that matters. It simply means that company has a quality control issue.

Regimen-wise, all I can say is it appears you are taking too many things. I suggest using Cronometer and see what is lacking in your diet, and either change your diet or supplement based on deficiencies.

A couple of things do stand out:

High dose manganese... not sure that is so wise.
High dose A -- no evidence it really is of benefit, and it's a possible risk. Even if you go with the Weston Price theory, I think they suggest retinol over beta carotene.
Too much vitamin E, selenium (possible diabetes risk with that one).
I'd probably go with a good fish oil, over NSI KriaXanthin. Or if you want krill, use Neptune instead. Or maybe Azantis.
Potassium supplement is a waste, as it provides 3% of RDA. Just eat foods with potassium instead, if you need it.

Not sure about Taurine, as FunkOddysey recently posted in a different thread about continuous dosing possibly being a cause of anxiety, but that may be only at higher dosing.

And I assume you are getting blood tests for DHEA and Vit D? You really can't properly dose vit D without knowing serum levels.

My point about consumer Labs is if they don't want to show the manufacturer the evidence then there is a reasonable doubt that they are basically lying!! Not just NSI but any manufacturer... I remember I read an article that NOW fail one of there test... I do however appreciate your concern....If you don't mind me asking what brand do you trust the most?? Thanks for the pointers... The Manganese was the lowest dose I could find with NSI.. Will have to look at another brand.. What dose would you recommend for Vitamin E? Thanks nameless very good points.. I will definately look into all your points especially the Vitamin D and DHEA...I definately need to get my serum levels check... I had no idea..

[FunkOdyssey]

I like AOR, NOW, Jarrow, and Doctor's Best for most things.

[SPAWN0517]

Wow. That looks really intense. Is it worth it? Does it really have any effect? I'd love to try it but I won't have that kind of money to burn for a long time.

Well I wouldn't be able to tell you what specifically is making a difference but they have definately change my life in a big way..... Here are the positives....
My skin looks very healthy now.... I use to look like 30 something since I was 24 and Im 27.. Now I look my age...
My hair is growing very thick now... I was getting thin hair and a lot of shdding in the washroom, all that has stop...
I don't crave sugars and sweeets like before...
My nervous system has improve dramitacally... I went from a nervous wreck with anxiety to a very calm person... I use to be shy asking a girl out... Now I am just myself...
I think more clearly and more positive.... I was a little depress and now I feel very good about life and everything it has to offer...
I was 6-1 242 pounds when I started this regimen
Now I am 6-1 219 pounds... I have lost 23 pounds in 2 months....
I been doing 100 sit ups every night and I am now seeing my 6 pack transforming...
I had surgery in my ankle (torn cartliage) when I was 16 and it always bother me when I play a lot of basketball..
I play almost everyday now and when I don't play I run 4 miles on the treadmill and don't get tired at all...
I use to wake up super sore where I couldn't move... I wake up a little sore but 100 x better than before...
Weightlifting I went from bench pressing 65 pounds 10x to 150 10x My chest is really developing
I have no fatigue my energy levels are those that were when I was 18
My digestion has really improve... I was using the wasroom evry two days before.. If I eat a heavy meal it only takes a couple of hours to start going...
Finally the sex drive has really improve... I really feel in control kinda like a porn star.. I can go at it all night with no side effects... Have no idea what happen but my sperm count has increase and the size...


So this are some of the benefits that I have experience....
It has mostly been with NSI brand... That is why I trust them...
The only side effect I ever had was Insomia when I was taking Resvetrol ... which I now take early in he morning and reduce my dose.. Haven't had no problems anymore...
Well good luck with your regimen... This forum really has help me too.. Tons of valuable information and is free... Thanks goodness for the internet!!

[SPAWN0517]

I do not trust NSI as a brand. They have failed all kinds of consumer lab testing.

Well don't want to get in a debate about NSI... I am very happy with the way I been feeling... They use a lot of trademark brands in there supplements... I use to use exclusively only NOW and a little bit of Source Naturals.. I really like Now but NSI is cheaper and if not better NSI gives me the sense of well being and a bunch of energy at the gym.. I also read about consumer lab reports and they are a shady company as they don't tell the manufacturer wwhat batch they did a lab test and this doesn't allow the company to fix if in fact there is something wrong with there products... Besides the brand do you think this is a good regimen??Any suggestions??? I have read many of your post and you are very knoledgeble when it comes to supplements..

I think there is too much of some B vitamins (across-the-board high dose b-complex is not optimal), too much Vit. E, probably not enough Vitamin D (depends on your lab results), too much beta-carotene, too much manganese, 99mg of potassium serves no purpose, and lipoic acid has alot of questions and doubt surrounding it, so much so that I personally would not currently take it.

edit: looks like nameless said alot of the same. About taurine, 300mg is apparently a typical daily intake for a meat eater, and I doubt anything negative would come from supplementation in the 500-1000mg range even in the long-term, just my opinion. I was taking 4 grams daily for a year, so quite a bit more than that.

Yeah u and nameless think very much alike... Thnaks for the info.. Will definately look into all those and the brands you recommended... I am always trying to improve.. Any tips are always appreciated... Thanks much!!

[nameless]

I like those brands too. All things being equal, I usually try to get Jarrow or Now first, then AOR (if affordable, but it rarely is... also a pain to order from Canada), then Doctor's Best. For branded ingredients, I am a little less picky, and have used companies like Healthy Origins or Swanson's.

Now did fail one Consumer lab test that I recall, for disintegration of their Adam Multi (I think). NSI failed for having high lead levels (and surpassing any lead level in any supplement ever tested by them before).

For manganese, why do you feel you need to supplement it at all? Have you determined what vits/minerals you are deficient in from diet first?

For Vitamin E, I prefer staying around the RDA or a tiny bit above. That big meta study done several years ago showed a slight benefit once you reached 50 IU, no benefit (but no harm either) at 100 IU, but increased mortality at higher rates. If you decide to take any fish oil, they usually include E in it too.

Instead of taking so many things, you may be better off just taking a partial dose of a multi (I consider AOR the best, but it's expensive). No need for separate E, manganese, etc. then. Or do the cronometer thing instead, like I mentioned. You'd be surprised how many vitamins you don't really need - A and K especially are easy to get from diet (but not K2). You may be better off with magnesium only too, as most people are a bit low in magnesium, not calcium,

[BetterStil]

Hello all.... I been reading countless regimens and wanted to share mine. This regimen took me countless hours and 2 sleepless nights to put together... I am very satisfied with how I been feeling with my first 2 weeks... All suggestions and comments welcome especially the combinations I have created... Ok I hope everybody has a healthy day!! Empty Stomach Morning (30 MINUTES BEFORE BREAKFAST) NSI R-Lipoic Acid Bio-enhanced Na-RALA --300 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Acetyl L-Carnitine HCl & Acetyl L-Carnitine Arginate (350MG & 250MG) (1 CAPSULE) NSI L-Taurine -- 850 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Longevatrol Stabilized Polyphenol Complex -- 200 mg (1 SOFTGEL) NSI FlavenZym Systemic Enzymes (1 TABLET) Breakfast NSI DHEA Time Released -- 5 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI D-Ribose Bioenergy Ribose™ -- 5 g per serving (1 Teaspoon (5 grams)) Source Naturals Chromium GTF 200 mcg Vanadium 1mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Ginger Root -- 1,100 mg per serving (1 CAPSULE) NSI Ginseng Extract Complex -- 400 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI 42 Fruits & Vegetables -- 700 mg per serving (1 CAPSULE) NSI EpiCor High Metabolite Immunogens -- 500 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI® Super ORAC Antioxidant Complex 600 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Lyc-O-Mato Lycopene -- 15 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Calcium & Magnesium (250mg,125mg)(2 CAPSULES) NSI B 100 COMPLEX (1 CAPSULE) Lunch NSI Carotene Complex with Pro Vitamin A -- 10000 IU (1 CAPSULE) NSI Betatene -- 25,000 IU (1 CAPSULE) NSI Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) -- 1000 IU (1 CAPSULE) NSI ToCoQ10 -- 100 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI 100% Natural Vitamin E -- 1,000 IU ( 1 CAPSULE) NSI Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM with Vitamin C (1 CAPSULE) NSI Manganese -- 10 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI High Selenium Yeast -- 200 mcg (1 CAPSULE) Black Currant Oil -- 1,000 mg (1 CAPSULE) L-Glutathione Plus CoQ10 -- 250 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Ultimate Immunity Formula w/AHCC & Antioxidants (2 CAPSULES) NSI KriaXanthin™ Antarctic Krill Oil with Natural Astaxanthin -- 500 mg Dinner NSI® Probiotic 15-35 with NutraFlora® FOS (2 CAPSULES) *immeadiately before dinner NSI Vitamin K2 (MK-7) from Natto Extract -- 100 micrograms (1 CAPSULE} Twinlab Copper Caps -- 2 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Potassium Citrate -- 99 mg (1 CAPSULE} NSI Boron Chelate -- 3 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Turmeric Extract Curcumin C3 Complex® with Bioperine® -- 1160 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Aged Garlic Extract with Red Yeast Rice (1 CAPSULE) NSI Betaine HCl with Pepsin -- 650 mg (1 CAPSULE) NSI Calcium & Magnesium (250mg,125mg)(2 CAPSULES) NSI Chromium GTF 200MCG (1 CAPSULE) NSI L-OptiZinc -- 30 mg (1 CAPSULE) Empty Stomach Night (30 MINUTES BEFORE SLEEPING) NSI Melatonin -- 1 mg (1 CAPSULE) IP6 500MG (1 CAPSULE) I also take Fo-Ti extract 2000mg once during the day..

With this many supplements and in these doses it seems like a good idea to have your blood values checked on a regular basis, especially regarding your liver values. Your liver has to deal with all of this, and in the long run (or sooner) you might be overburdening your body (esp. liver), even if in the short run you're feeling great.

Edited by BetterStil, 09 October 2009 - 11:49 PM.

[pycnogenol]

SPAWN0517,

If your going to take this much stuff, it would be a very good idea to get regular blood tests
such as liver and kidney function, etc. basically all the important stuff so you know that your
not unknowingly causing problems with your health.

Does your health care provider know you take these supplements?

I also don't take NSI supplements and never will.

Edited by pycnogenol, 10 October 2009 - 12:51 AM.

[kismet]

You would do yourself and us a great favour if you cut down on that regimen. Reduce everything to the bare essentials (that way you benefit, because you're less likely to kill yourself than now) and donate to the SENS-Foundation (that way we can also benefit from your money, which you must have plenty of).

I think there is too much of some B vitamins (across-the-board high dose b-complex is not optimal), too much Vit. E, probably not enough Vitamin D (depends on your lab results), too much beta-carotene, too much manganese, 99mg of potassium serves no purpose, and lipoic acid has alot of questions and doubt surrounding it, so much so that I personally would not currently take it.

I think that is just scratching the surface of what is wrong with this regimen.

Edited by kismet, 10 October 2009 - 04:18 PM.

[SPAWN0517]

Well the jury is out.. I need to see a docoe!! Well I am going to make a doctor's appointment on Monday... I will do a blood test... I never really check my levels.. I have gotten blood test before but usually is "We will call you if there are any concerns"... Never gotten a call... Any specific kinda bloodtest I should do?? Also I have like 50 bottles of supplements here in my house and I really don't wanna throw my money away and don't want to risk my health either.... If I would take 2 days off out of the week you guys think that would help?? Well anyways thank you very much for all who reply...Even Misket with his sarcasm!! If it wasn't for you guys I would probably not be making a doctor's appointment on monday!! Hope everybody had a good weekend.. Laterz

[nameless]

Some basic blood tests I usually recommend when friends/relatives go to their doc:

VAP lipoprotein, Hs-creactive protein, homocysteine, vitamin D (25-D, 1-25), Thyroid panel (TSH, Free T3/T4, antibodies), CBC, CMP, ferritin. You should also add tests for DHEA, DHEA-S, since you are supplementing with it. A full hormone workup may also be worthwhile, based on your age and any health issues you may have, but a family doc may just send you to an endocrinologist for that.

[SPAWN0517]

Some basic blood tests I usually recommend when friends/relatives go to their doc:

VAP lipoprotein, Hs-creactive protein, homocysteine, vitamin D (25-D, 1-25), Thyroid panel (TSH, Free T3/T4, antibodies), CBC, CMP, ferritin. You should also add tests for DHEA, DHEA-S, since you are supplementing with it. A full hormone workup may also be worthwhile, based on your age and any health issues you may have, but a family doc may just send you to an endocrinologist for that.

Thanks much Nameless am writting these down... You been very helpful.. Really appreciated!!

[pycnogenol]

Good luck with everything. A quick word of advice:

Take your sweet time when it comes to buying and using
supplements. Try to seek out the very best, highest quality
products out there and read up on whatever supplements
you're interested in first before pulling the trigger and using
them. - pycnogenol

[tonynemo]

I think there is too much of some B vitamins (across-the-board high dose b-complex is not optimal),

I was struck by your comment as I have never run across this opinion. A heart surgeon recommended 500 mg of Niacin to treat a less than optimal LDL/HDL ratio (my only risk factor). This gave me hot flashes and I had always heared that increasing the consumption of one b vitamin increases the body's demand for others. When I changed to a B complex, the hot flashes went away. Placebo effect? I would like to see more info on the matter you raised.

[SPAWN0517]

Well I went to the doctor and my test were very good... I did all the blood test.(thanks nameless).. The only thing I saw was my vitamin D level was 22 so I am adding 5000 IU.. Not sure if is enough.. I am currenltly out of town so don't have the results in my hand.. I have change my regimen.. I follow everybody's advice.. I switch completely to Jarrow Formulas and I take 2 powders from ALL ONE nutitech... Well here is my new and I hope improve regimen.. Please comment if you see anything I can improve or drop...

Breakfast Shake


*** All One, Nutritech, Original Formula, Multiple Vitamin & Mineral Powder 1 scoop
Calories 39
Calories from Fat 5
Total Fat Less Than 1 g 1%
Trans Fat 0 0%
Cholesterol 5 mg 2%
Potassium ** (as Potassium Citrate, Potassium Alginate) 99 mg 2%
Total Carbohydrates 1 g <1%
Dietary Fiber 1 g 4%
Milk Protein (as Calcium Caseinate) 8 g 16%
Vitamin A (as Vitamin A Palmitate) 8,000 IU 160%
Vitamin A (as Beta Carotene) 7,000 IU 140%
Vitamin C (as Ascorbic Acid) 1,000 mg 1670%
Vitamin D2 (as Ergocalciferol) 500 IU 125%
Vitamin E (as d-Alpha Tocopheryl Succinate) 400 IU 1330%
Vitamin K (as Phylloquinone) 5 mcg 6%
Thiamine HCI (B-1) 25 mg 1670%
Riboflavin (B-2) 25 mg 1470%
Niacin (as Niacinamide) 100 mg 500%
Vitamin B-6 (as Pyridoxine HCI) 25 mg 1250%
Folic Acid 400 mcg 100%
Vitamin B-12 (as Cyanocobalamin) 25 mcg 420%
Biotin (as d-Biotin) 25 mcg 8%
Pantothenic Acid (as d-Calcium Pantothenate) 100 mg 1000%
Calcium** (as Calcium Caseinate/Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate) 510 mg 51%
Iron** (as Ferrous Sulfate) 18 mg 100%
Phosphorus** (as Dicalcium Phosphate, Cacium Caseinate) 200 mg 20%
Iodine (as Potassium Iodide) 180 mcg 120%
Magnesium** (as Magnesium Carbonate) 200 mcg 50%
Zinc** (as Zinc Oxide) 15 mg 100%
Selenium** (as Selenium Proteinate) 50 mcg 70%
Copper** (as Cupric Amino Acid Chelate) 0.2 mg 10%
Manganese** (as Manganese Carbonate) 4 mg 200%
Chromium ** (as Chromium Amino Acid Chelate) 50 mcg 40%
Molybdenum** (as Molybdenum Amino Acid Chelate) 50 mcg 70%
Amino Acid Profile: Naturally Occurring in Whole Protein
Alanine 250 mg †
Arginine 311 mg †
Aspartic Acid 568 mg †
Cystine/Cysteine 35 mg †
Glutamic Acid 1705 mg †
Glycine*** 152 mg †
Histidine*** 237 mg †
Isoleucine*** 376 mg †
Leucine*** 744 mg †
Lysine*** 624 mg †
Methionine*** 237 mg †
Phenylalanine*** 418 mg †
Proline 844 mg †
Serine 474 mg †
Threonine*** 351 mg †
Tryptophan*** 98 mg †
Tyrosine 450 mg †
Valine*** 465 mg †
Also Contains:
Rice Bran 1000 mg †
Lemon Bioflavonoids (Lemon fruit) 400 mg †
Lecithin (as Soy Lecithin) 350 mg †
Choline (as Choline Bitartrate and Lecithin) 100 mg †
Inositol 100 mg †
Hesperidin Complex (citrus fruit) 25 mg †
Para Amino Benzoic Acid (PABA) 25 mg †
Rutin 25 mg †
In a base of: Papain, Betaine HCI, Kelp
3 mg †
*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
† Daily value not established.
**Proteinate
***Essential Amino Acids

Lunch


Jarrow Formulas, Citicoline, Cognizin CDP Choline, 250 mg

Jarrow Formulas, Pantethine, 450 mg,

Jarrow Formulas, Skin Optimizer
Vitamin C (as calcium ascorbate) 50 mg 170 %
PomGuard Powder Blend (Punica granatum) (From fermented Israel Wonderful pomegranate juice, seed meal, aqueous extracts of peel and leaf) 60 mg *
Alpha Lipoic Acid 50 mg *
Hyaluronic Acid 50 mg *
Superoxide Dismutase/Gliadin Complex (GliSODin) 50 IU (SOD Activity) *
Grape Seed 100:1 Extract (Vitis vinifera) (95 % polyphenols) 50 mg *

Jarrow Formulas, MK-7, 90 mcg

Jarrow Formulas, MityQondria
Biotin 50 mcg 17%
Coenzyme-Q 10 (Ubiquinone) 60 mg *
Alpha Lipoic Acid 60 mg *
Acetyl-L-Carnitine Arginate dihydrochloride
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
L-Arginine 500 mg
225 mg
194 mg *
Creatine Monohydrate 500 mg *
Lecithin 50 mg *

Jarrow Formulas, Vitamin D3, 2500 IU

Jarrow Formulas, Chromium GTF (Glucose Tolerance Factor), 200 mcg

Jarrow Formulas, Biotin, 5 mg,

After Lunch Empty Stomach

Jarrow Formulas, Jarro-Dophilus EPS



Dinner
Jarrow Formulas, EPA-DHA Balance, 2:1 Ratio, 420mg EPA - 210mg DHA,

Jarrow Formulas, Lyco-Sorb, 10 mg

Jarrow Formulas, Skin Optimizer
Vitamin C (as calcium ascorbate) 50 mg 170 %
PomGuard Powder Blend (Punica granatum) (From fermented Israel Wonderful pomegranate juice, seed meal, aqueous extracts of peel and leaf) 60 mg *
Alpha Lipoic Acid 50 mg *
Hyaluronic Acid 50 mg *
Superoxide Dismutase/Gliadin Complex (GliSODin) 50 IU (SOD Activity) *
Grape Seed 100:1 Extract (Vitis vinifera) (95 % polyphenols) 50 mg

Twinlab, Copper Caps, 2 mg

Jarrow Formulas, MSM Sulfur, 1000 mg

Jarrow Formulas, Curcumin 95, 500 mg

Jarrow Formulas, Jarro-Gar 800 (Garlic)

Jarrow Formulas, Vitamin D3, 2500 IU

Jarrow Formulas, Zinc Balance, 15 mg


Customize Shake


I mix these 2 powders together and add 10 drops of Jarrow Formulas, JarroSil, Activated Silicon,
All One, Nutritech, Calcium Complex
Elemental Calcium (as Calcium Citrate) 1000 mg 100%
Elemental Magnesium (as Magnesium Amino Acid Chelate) 500 mg 125%

Jarrow Formulas, Green Defense
Calories 23
Total Fat <1 g 0%
Sat. Fat 0 g
Trans Fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Total Carbs 5 g 2%
Fiber 3 g 10%
Sugars 2 g
Protein <1 g
Sodium 9 mg
Grasses & Algae
Organic Barley Grass Juice Powder (Hordeum vulgaris)
Organic Quinoa (Chendopodium quinoa)
Organic Spirulina (Spirulina platensis)
Organic Oat Grass Juice Powder (Avena sativa)
Organic Wheat Grass Juice Powder (Triticum aestivum) 980 mg †
Vegetables
Spinach Powder (Spinacia oleracea)
Broccoli Powder (1.2% sulphoraphan) (Brassica oleracea)
Tomato Powder (Solanum Lycopersicon Linne)
Beet Powder (Beta vulgaris) 1430 mg †
Botanicals
Tiger Cane Extract (Polygonum Cuspidatum) (source of Resveratrol)
Quercetin (from Dimorphandra mollis)
Milk Thistle Extract (80% Silymarin) (Silybum marianum)
Citrus Bioflavonoids
Ginger (50:1) (Zingiber officinale)
Green Tea Extract (45% Polyphenols/30% Catechins)(Camellia sinensis)
Grape Seed Extract (90% Polyphenols) (Vitis vinifera)
Ginkgo Biloba Extract (Ginkgo biloba)
Fibers
Nutra FOS (FructoOligoSaccharide)
Rice Bran Powder
Apple Fiber
Probiotic Metabolites
Metabolin (Propionibacterium shermani)
* % DV based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
† Daily Value not established.
Antioxidant Profile
Total ORAC >2100
Resveratrol 15 mg
Quercetin 50mg

Bedtime

Jarrow Formulas, Melatonin Sustain 1mg
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine HCI) 2 mg 100%
Magnesium (from oxide) 100 mg 25%
Melatonin 1 mg *

Jarrow Formulas, IP6 Inositol Hexaphosphate, 500 mg

[nameless]

A quick glance and I see:

Iron, why take iron? If male, that's a bad idea.
Your All One powder looks flawed to me... iron, too much alpha E, too high in Bs, etc.
An awful lot of calcium there, if I read that correctly: 1500mg daily? Why?
And why supplement extra copper? I think you at over 3mg extra daily just from supplements.

If you haven't checked out cronometer yet, I suggest you try it out for several weeks and measure your dietary intakes before adding all of these things.

[SPAWN0517]

Hi Nameless... Hope your doing good... I am by no means an expert on nutrition but will give my answers as best as I can...

A quick glance and I see:

Iron, why take iron? If male, that's a bad idea.

Reason I was looking for Iron in my regimen my blood test can on the low range... It was in the edge of being below normal but don't remember the exact number... I don't eat any red meat and have been like this since I was 16.. I am 27 now.. I only eat chicken and fish....

Your All One powder looks flawed to me... iron, too much alpha E, too high in Bs, etc.

Yeah I been searching for something with more optimal maybe you can recommend something...

An awful lot of calcium there, if I read that correctly: 1500mg daily? Why?

Well when I went to the doctor I was told I am allergic to milk and was the main cause of my breakouts... When I travel I take this much calcium but when I am home I don't take the calcium complex as I buy a bunch of soy milk in the house.. When I travel is just hard to have a complete balance food meal..

And why supplement extra copper? I think you at over 3mg extra daily just from supplements.

Main reason for copper is just my own theory... I was taking 50mg of zinc from some bad advice I was getting... I was told to supplement zinc so I don't lose my hair from DHT as zinc prevents DHT buikdup which causes hair loss.. Well I am not losing my hair anymore but I am seeing a lot of gray hairs.. Doing some research a lot of my reads came to the conclusion that gray hair might be due to copper deficiency... I might be wrong but I don't think I take any copper as food... I just want to see if I can reverse the gray hair... My brother is 32 and has a full set of black hair...

If you haven't checked out cronometer yet, I suggest you try it out for several weeks and measure your dietary intakes before adding all of these things.

I just download it and will check it out... I work like 70 hours a week when I go out of town so it is hard for me to have time to really watch all my food intake but sounds promising... I will write down my meals and put them in before I go to bed... ..

Well nameless doing countless research on this forum I have learn so much I just wanna say I think is great how you help so many people.. I see how helpful you been to me and others... So thank you very much!!!

[nameless]

Reason I was looking for Iron in my regimen my blood test can on the low range... It was in the edge of being below normal but don't remember the exact number... I don't eat any red meat and have been like this since I was 16.. I am 27 now.. I only eat chicken and fish....

I'm not so sure a low-normal ferrtin isn't ideal. I mean, that's one reason to take IP-6 (possibly). You probably should check with your doctor and see if he/she thinks you need extra iron. If it's low-normal, that may be a good thing.

Yeah I been searching for something with more optimal maybe you can recommend something...

It's very difficult to find the perfect multi, which is why I usually just say measure your nutrient intake through cronometer first. Fixing your diet is better than taking vitamins anyway.

But if you are lowish in several things, a partial dose of a multi could be helpful. As to what to recommend... eh... hard to say. One of the AORs probably is best (such as MultiBasics), but it's overly expensive for what you get. ImmInst is currently in the process of creating their own multi, which may be a good option if/when it comes out. For now... pick a decent multi (near RDA levels) from a reputable manufacturer, and take a half a dose? A cheap option would be a decent USP/certified multi, or New Chapter Everyman (half a tablet), but it is probably just a minor step above a One-A-Day. Although I'd probably say a One-A-Day is better for you than that All One powder.

Well when I went to the doctor I was told I am allergic to milk and was the main cause of my breakouts... When I travel I take this much calcium but when I am home I don't take the calcium complex as I buy a bunch of soy milk in the house.. When I travel is just hard to have a complete balance food meal..

Even if low in calcium, you probably don't need 1500+mg daily from supplements. Counting the IP-6, it's more like 1600+ mg. Soy probably isn't a great idea for men, by the way.

Main reason for copper is just my own theory... I was taking 50mg of zinc from some bad advice I was getting... I was told to supplement zinc so I don't lose my hair from DHT as zinc prevents DHT buikdup which causes hair loss.. Well I am not losing my hair anymore but I am seeing a lot of gray hairs.. Doing some research a lot of my reads came to the conclusion that gray hair might be due to copper deficiency... I might be wrong but I don't think I take any copper as food... I just want to see if I can reverse the gray hair... My brother is 32 and has a full set of black hair...

A short term trial probably won't hurt you, but it's not a good idea to do this experiment for a long time. A good idea to lower the zinc too, after you are finished with the copper/gray hair experiment.

A couple of other comments:
You can take a single D3 daily, or even every other day, if it's easier for you. Long half-life.
5000IU may be enough... check levels again in three months. My own D levels came in at 21 when I first tested it, and currently need about 2500-3000IU to get it in the 40-50 range. But that varies a lot by person.

And why taking skin optimizer and mityQondria? Usually in mixed products like those, a person is better off just buying individual components in proper doses. I'm not a fan of a couple of ingredients in those particular products (GliSODin and Pomguard wouldn't be my first Pom supplement choice, for instance).

Edited by nameless, 11 November 2009 - 04:24 AM.