An interesting first hand account in three parts. I think the uploader came up with the irreverant Youtube title.
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Posted 19 October 2009 - 05:02 AM
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Posted 20 October 2009 - 02:30 AM
Yes, thank you, lunarsolarpower..... but this seems like a pretty cool interview. Thanks for posting lunarsolarpower!
Saul Kent, a very major figure in Life Extension for more than thirty years.Never heard of Saul Kent,...
Posted 20 October 2009 - 04:56 AM
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Posted 21 October 2009 - 04:59 AM
Now that I see just how serious Kent really is, Alcor work, and considers self "hard core immortalist", Im more confused than ever, I know supplements are a great help to the meme, but come on, 100% supplements with out even a whiff of alcor or imminst? How is that going to get through to anybody?
Posted 21 October 2009 - 12:22 PM
Posted 21 October 2009 - 12:54 PM
Isn’t this guy the same who predicted the singularity in 1974 for the 2010? lol
Posted 21 October 2009 - 01:24 PM
Edited by TheFountain, 21 October 2009 - 01:25 PM.
Posted 21 October 2009 - 02:03 PM
Posted 21 October 2009 - 03:13 PM
Isn’t this guy the same who predicted the singularity in 1974 for the 2010? lol
Lots of people predicted around then that the Singularity would have occurred by now, I've never heard of Saul Kent making such predictions though
Here is a nice overview:
http://www.accelerat...redictions.html
For a 'hard core immortalist' he sure doesn't look like he takes good care of himself. He appears overweight even. Now just think, this man is, what, 68 years old? How old is sylvester stallone? 63? That is 5 years difference and stallone looks so much healthier. I'm not insulting Mr. kent as he makes some great and passionate points but I think the immortalist movement really needs representatives that look good for their ages to make it kind of stick in the forefront of peoples minds what the purpose of the movement is. I.E to slow down the decline into sencesence.
Posted 21 October 2009 - 05:53 PM
Isn't this guy the same who predicted the singularity in 1974 for the 2010? lol
Lots of people predicted around then that the Singularity would have occurred by now, I've never heard of Saul Kent making such predictions though![]()
Here is a nice overview:
http://www.accelerat...redictions.html
Tranks for the interview, i just said that for this topic:
http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=17639For a 'hard core immortalist' he sure doesn't look like he takes good care of himself. He appears overweight even. Now just think, this man is, what, 68 years old? How old is sylvester stallone? 63? That is 5 years difference and stallone looks so much healthier. I'm not insulting Mr. kent as he makes some great and passionate points but I think the immortalist movement really needs representatives that look good for their ages to make it kind of stick in the forefront of peoples minds what the purpose of the movement is. I.E to slow down the decline into sencesence.
But Stallone lives for his body. He is all day training in the gym, he takes all kind of steroids, botox,etc...he does things that are not possible for the average people.
Posted 21 October 2009 - 06:11 PM
Posted 21 October 2009 - 06:13 PM
Isn't this guy the same who predicted the singularity in 1974 for the 2010? lol
Lots of people predicted around then that the Singularity would have occurred by now, I've never heard of Saul Kent making such predictions though![]()
Here is a nice overview:
http://www.accelerat...redictions.html
Tranks for the interview, i just said that for this topic:
http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=17639For a 'hard core immortalist' he sure doesn't look like he takes good care of himself. He appears overweight even. Now just think, this man is, what, 68 years old? How old is sylvester stallone? 63? That is 5 years difference and stallone looks so much healthier. I'm not insulting Mr. kent as he makes some great and passionate points but I think the immortalist movement really needs representatives that look good for their ages to make it kind of stick in the forefront of peoples minds what the purpose of the movement is. I.E to slow down the decline into sencesence.
But Stallone lives for his body. He is all day training in the gym, he takes all kind of steroids, botox,etc...he does things that are not possible for the average people.
Posted 21 October 2009 - 06:16 PM
Its not about training in the gym or not. Its about if you are willing to take steroids or not, and if you can take them or not. Stallone got a lot of money and physical advisords behing, as he needs his body for training. Also, Stallone is 63 and Kent 68, 5 years od diference is a lot if we are moving between this ages.
Edited by TheFountain, 21 October 2009 - 06:19 PM.
Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:51 AM
For a 'hard core immortalist' he sure doesn't look like he takes good care of himself.
Edited by lunarsolarpower, 22 October 2009 - 01:52 AM.
Posted 22 October 2009 - 02:14 AM
brokenportal, I think you'll find that almost all the serious life extension people throughout the 1960s, 70s and 80s were involved with cryonics to some extent. Really until the human genome project began to near completion and Aubrey formulated his approach there wasn't much else apart from nanotech to focus on.
Now that I see just how serious Kent really is, Alcor work, and considers self "hard core immortalist", Im more confused than ever, I know supplements are a great help to the meme, but come on, 100% supplements with out even a whiff of alcor or imminst? How is that going to get through to anybody?
My impression was that those guys see LEF as their day job and figure they can do more good earning money to put towards research on projects they feel will actually bring about real results rather than risk marginalizing themselves with too radical of a message.
Posted 22 October 2009 - 03:01 AM
That's a nice article. I found this part to ring true:Here is a nice overview:
http://www.accelerat...redictions.html
I find it revealing that, with a few notable exceptions, those who propose extreme nearness of the event are most commonly either 1) in the throes of the predictable radicalism of youth ("the world depends on me"), or 2) of an advanced age and hoping to see the transcendental event occur before their demise ("no world will exist after me").
Posted 22 October 2009 - 01:20 PM
For a 'hard core immortalist' he sure doesn't look like he takes good care of himself.
Maybe he's showing some wear from his past battles. Also remember this video is 10 years old.
Edited by TheFountain, 22 October 2009 - 01:22 PM.
Posted 22 October 2009 - 09:54 PM
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Posted 22 October 2009 - 11:56 PM
Most bodybuilders don't work out more than 1-2 hours a day
Posted 23 October 2009 - 01:13 AM
Isn’t this guy the same who predicted the singularity in 1974 for the 2010? lol
Lots of people predicted around then that the Singularity would have occurred by now, I've never heard of Saul Kent making such predictions though
Here is a nice overview:
http://www.accelerat...redictions.html
Posted 23 October 2009 - 03:51 AM
We all owe Saul Kent AND Bill Falloon a debt of gratitude for standing up to the FDA tyranny.
Posted 23 October 2009 - 03:06 PM
People change vastly over their lives--a 20 year old, vs a 30 year old--not to mention the wisdom a coherent "with-it" 90 year old has in comparison. You, whoever you are (TheFountain) or others who read this thread--will be different at different ages, and it is unfair to cast aspersion upon a person for how they appear in a video. Saul is to be lauded for even appearing and doing as great a job as he did, any editor can do what they want with an interview to "color" it to one way or another. Aubrey, is doing and has done, far more than anyone human for ending aging--you have to ask yourself--what are you doing?
It is easy to criticize others, it takes strength to stand up and be public behind your name, to do interviews, to go out and ask for money. Yes, sickly looking 70 year olds even will be listened to, even respected--there are many in different fields from politics to literature who are revered and their words recorded. On sidetracking...yes, I admire Saul and all he has done(and all others who help us get closer to what we visualize, in nanotech, biotech, artificial general intelligence--all the fields, ending aging, mind uploading, space travel, time travel..you name it if you love hard sci-fi and cutting edge science ;-) )
Posted 23 October 2009 - 03:39 PM
I personally do not judge people by their age or appearance
Edited by eternaltraveler, 23 October 2009 - 03:41 PM.
Posted 23 October 2009 - 05:22 PM
I personally do not judge people by their age or appearance
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Half your threads and posts are tirades against various types of appearance and how people look old. You my wish to evaluate your posting if you don't wish to appear judgmental of the aforementioned qualities.
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