What a mess this topic.
TheFountain, you may want to cut on the sarcasm next time if you don't want to create a sea of misunderstandings.
I think/hope i understood what you wanted to say. If i didn't get it, then don't consider this post.
I don't want your nasty smelly socialist nazi healthcare system! I want my freedom!
Freedom I tell you is paying property tax, income tax, sales tax, bridge toll tax, food tax, getting nothing back in return, having to work 60 hours a week just to survive and eat, having to have exceedingly large hospital bills because of lacking insurance. Not being able to sleep because of jobless noisy malcontent neighbors. Freedom's a great thing isn't it? How dare you suggest free healthcare? Free college education? Free job programs? That's fuckin slavery god damned it! Keep that fuckin shit away from me!
HAIL FREEDOM! HAIL FREEDOM! HAIL FREEDOM!
You're complaining you pay taxes for everything yet don't get anything in return, so you ask for more services from the government like free healthcare, college education, free job programs, etc.
But if the government provides more and more services, it is given a reason to increase its size and plus make people pay more taxes -yes, there WOULD be more taxes, or do you think the money would just magically appear, like socialists like to think?
The government is a big spending machine.. it's too inefficient. Instead of havinf the government raise taxes to provice more inefficient services, what about making it LOWER current taxes so we pay for the services ourselves? We'd definitely get more bang for our bucks.
Of course, poor people are against it (as they create very little wealth and get more from the government than they give to it) and richer people are against it because they create more wealth and give more to the government than they receive back. But what's fair? I think fair is to let each person keep all that he produces. Stealing from some (the richer), for whatever reason, is unfair. It's the same as pointing a gun at your rich neighbour obligating him to give you 10% of all that he owns because you need it more than he does. It's nonsense.
So, i say, if you live in even a relatively developed country where there are endless opportunities, stop whining and go get more education, work very hard, and you'll then soon create enough wealth to not have to worry about the provision of your basic needs.
Edited by forever freedom, 20 October 2009 - 05:52 PM.