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[dronez]

Hello all, I am currently taking the following to help with my social-anxiety and brain fog that I feel I developed as a result of prior poly-drug experimentation (cocaine, mdma, alcohol, marijuana, dxm)

Does anything in the following list counteract with anything else in the list? It seems like a lot of stuff to take and their isn't available info on this particular combo. Thanks.

Daytime:

Tianeptine - 12.5 mg 3-4 times daily for anxiety/mild depression
Vitamins C,D,E,B complex,
Alpha Lipolic Acid - 300-600 mg a day
Niacinamide on occasion ~1000 mg
Acetyl l-carnitine arginate
Creatine - for muscles (on workout days)
Flax oil,Fish oil - one tablespoon each a day
Calcium/magnesium
Oxiracetam - 800 mg
Piracetam - 1,000 mg (I have been cycling the racetams - and am concerned about the possibility that they may interact with some of these other substances, particularly tianeptine)
Alpha GPC - 300 mg on occasion
Green Vibrance (a really good green drink - google it if you don't know about it)
Taurine - on occasion.

Nighttime:

Melatonin - 2-5 mg. for sleep
Inositol - 1,000 mg. for sleep, anti-OCD, anti-anxiety, build GABA levels
Phenibut - on occasion for anxiety (this has been working really well) - I DON'T take this with inositol

[Pike]

if your stack is for anti anxiety, i'd cut the racetam dosages down, and probably eliminate all of the other racetams you have except for pi. cut the dose in half, or maybe take it as a quarter-dose twice a day.

drop the niacinamide. afaik, it may be the 'no-flush' kind, but doesn't offer any of the actual benefits niacin is supposed to have. however, if you're looking for anti-anxiety, maybe lower the niacin dosages?

you should throw some tea into this mix, drink as needed or even on a consistent basis if you want.

it seems you've already got a good understanding of GABA, so maybe you could also benefit from doing a bit of general research on noots that act on serotonin levels.

but from the looks of it, your stack isn't "too much." you could do without the alpha-gpc and probably just switch to a cheaper choline, because alpha doesn't offer anything that the other cholines don't.

[KimberCT]

I'd replace the piracetam and oxiracetam with aniracetam and drop the calcium... just use magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate instead. ALCAR can increase anxiety, so you may consider dropping that as well.

Phenibut works great, but only if you're really using it as needed. It builds tolerance very quickly and will exacerbate anxiety once it does.

[golden1]

aniracetam is definitely the best -racetam for anxiety. pramiracetam works even better, in my experience, but I feel like it changes how you act as well.

I like to take around ~800mg of pramiracetam every couple days and ~1000mg aniracetam 1-3 times a day.

phenibut definately works, but I'd say pramiracetam feels like a much more natural feeling, it's almost as if you have so much self-confidence that as a result you no longer worry about what others think and you feel like you can accomplish anything. aniracetam seems to stop anxious thoughts in a different way, but to me it also feels more natural. phenibut is worth having to really relax once and a while though.

[dronez]

I'd replace the piracetam and oxiracetam with aniracetam and drop the calcium... just use magnesium glycinate or magnesium malate instead. ALCAR can increase anxiety, so you may consider dropping that as well.

Phenibut works great, but only if you're really using it as needed. It builds tolerance very quickly and will exacerbate anxiety once it does.

why aniracetam over piracetam/oxi?

I don't get any calcium in my diet since I don't eat any dairy. so I probably need to keep that around.

I haven't noticed any problems when I take the ALCAR in the morning, if anything, I feel a little more jilted from the piracetam. I am in law school though and need my memory and focus working in tip top shape.

[dronez]

aniracetam is definitely the best -racetam for anxiety. pramiracetam works even better, in my experience, but I feel like it changes how you act as well.

I like to take around ~800mg of pramiracetam every couple days and ~1000mg aniracetam 1-3 times a day.

phenibut definately works, but I'd say pramiracetam feels like a much more natural feeling, it's almost as if you have so much self-confidence that as a result you no longer worry about what others think and you feel like you can accomplish anything. aniracetam seems to stop anxious thoughts in a different way, but to me it also feels more natural. phenibut is worth having to really relax once and a while though.

do you think it is much better than piracetam?

can you use pramiracetam with tianeptine? how about if I switched to an SNRI?