Does anybody know?
searching google gets this
I noted that smi2le has this in, but what are the advantages of this from RALA? Anybody?
Thanks,
Adam
Posted 15 July 2004 - 06:34 AM
Posted 15 July 2004 - 09:37 PM
Posted 15 July 2004 - 11:11 PM
Never heard of it. Greater stability perhaps?
Posted 16 July 2004 - 02:23 AM
Never heard of it. Greater stability perhaps?
Posted 16 July 2004 - 11:52 AM
Posted 16 July 2004 - 11:53 AM
Never heard of it. Greater stability perhaps?
I believe so.
ALA
R-ALA -> greater bioavailability
K-R-ALA -> greater bioavailability, doesn't degrade
Posted 16 July 2004 - 09:04 PM
Does anybody know?
searching google gets this
I noted that smi2le has this in, but what are the advantages of this from RALA? Anybody?
Posted 19 July 2004 - 01:30 PM
Posted 24 July 2004 - 06:07 PM
Posted 24 July 2004 - 06:28 PM
I have been using K-RALA for several months now, made by GeroNova. This is pretty much all they do and are extremely knowledgeable in the field. If you want to know about what makes it different from RLA and anything else about it, visit their website for information. A scientific and technical paper on "polymerization and bioavailability" is very interesting, and there are easier articles to read like "introducing K-RALA." I have spoken to them on the phone about their product and have used both the liquid K-RALA-10 and the caps. They have trademarked the name K-RALA.
Posted 24 July 2004 - 07:45 PM
Posted 24 July 2004 - 07:54 PM
Thanks Adam,
I went to the site and indeed the prices are very good (for everything). Do you cap the powder yourself (isn't that bothersome) or just put it in water?
I imagine it tastes pretty strong?
Just in terms of information on its own, the Geronova site is a very good source of info, links to clinical studies, etc. on this product if you (or anyone) wants in-depth research on it. I didn't notice the liquid form on the sile site though, do you know if they carry it? Have you tried K-RALA in liquid form?
nagaki
Posted 30 July 2004 - 11:36 PM
Does anybody know?
searching google gets this
I noted that smi2le has this in, but what are the advantages of this from RALA? Anybody?
Posted 04 August 2004 - 02:52 PM
Posted 04 August 2004 - 04:03 PM
Posted 04 August 2004 - 07:06 PM
Posted 04 August 2004 - 11:33 PM
Posted 05 August 2004 - 08:51 AM
Posted 05 August 2004 - 07:46 PM
Posted 06 August 2004 - 04:32 AM
Posted 27 November 2004 - 05:45 PM
Does anybody know?
searching google gets this
I noted that smi2le has this in, but what are the advantages of this from RALA? Anybody?
As you may know, "straight" R(+)-lipoic acid has the unfortunate tendency to polymerize unless it is kept cool. It also tends to react when combined in a capsule or tablet with ALCAR -- ironically, granted the importance of the ALCAR/R-LA "cocktail." Moreover, when R-LA is put into a tablet, it has a strong tendency toward sinterization, leading to reduced bioavailability.
All of this severely constrains formulators wanting to use R-LA in their supplements (unless, of course, they just don't know or don't care what they're doing). This is, in fact, why a Bruce Ames-affiliated company has been using the racemate in their ALCAR/lipoic acid pills, despite the fact that Dr. Ames himself is fully aware of the superiority of the R(+)-enantiomer, as he explained at the International Association of Biomedical Gerontology conference in 2003.
Various R-LA salts, including the potassium salt, are to a greater or lesser degree immune from these problems. AOR's current R(+)-lipoic acid supplements use K-R-LA, and (if the results of some formulation work which we have contracted turns out as we anticipate) we will shortly begin using what we anticipate to be an even more stable, versatile salt.
To your health!
AOR
Posted 27 November 2004 - 06:48 PM
See how forgetful AORsupport can be? Here he clearly states he uses KRALA.
Posted 27 November 2004 - 09:43 PM
You forgot to put the posting date on his quote, which was four and a half months ago. He said they dont currently use it. It might be prudent to ask him when they stopped using it rather than jumping to conclusions.
Steven
Posted 27 November 2004 - 11:19 PM
You forgot to put the posting date on his quote, which was four and a half months ago. He said they dont currently use it. It might be prudent to ask him when they stopped using it rather than jumping to conclusions.
Steven
It might be prudent...for you to go fish up this data yourself.
Personally, I have many other things to do.
Is is apparent that you feel adequate with the title and honor of "official arbitrator." Wow, what a contribution, Stephen.
Why don't you consider contributing something in the forums other than officiating other people's posts? We already have enough cheerleaders here.
AORsupport asked me when he said he used KRALA. I found the reference. I nominate you to do the time stamp duties, it seems like you have the predisposition to do that kind of clerical work as evidenced by your posting record. Go ahead, make yourself useful.
Posted 27 November 2004 - 11:35 PM
Posted 29 November 2004 - 08:43 PM
You forgot to put the posting date on his quote, which was four and a half months ago. He said they dont currently use it. It might be prudent to ask him when they stopped using it rather than jumping to conclusions.
It might be prudent...for you to go fish up this data yourself.
Personally, I have many other things to do.
Is is apparent that you feel adequate with the title and honor of "official arbitrator." Wow, what a contribution, Stephen.
Why don't you consider contributing something in the forums other than officiating other people's posts? We already have enough cheerleaders here.
AORsupport asked me when he said he used KRALA. I found the reference. I nominate you to do the time stamp duties, it seems like you have the predisposition to do that kind of clerical work as evidenced by your posting record. Go ahead, make yourself useful.
(if you do not remember, Geronova is the company that manufactures KRALA, and sells it to AORsupport's company)
I'm not sure where you got this impression, but in any case it isn't true. AOR is not currently using K-RALA, and even when we were, we were not buying it from Geronova or their supplier.
AOR's current R(+)-lipoic acid supplements use K-R-LA, and (if the results of some formulation work which we have contracted turns out as we anticipate) we will shortly begin using what we anticipate to be an even more stable, versatile salt..
Edited by AORsupport, 29 November 2004 - 09:03 PM.
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