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#1 amonavis

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:22 AM


I am sometimes a fan of La Roche Posay products so I was pleased to try their new Derm AOX serum. However, its promises seem a bit lofty and I wonder if there is really science to back up their claims.

The serum is your standard antioxidant serum with vitamin C and E however it does also contain pycnogenol (said to be 20-50X stronger than Vitamin C/E). It also contains something different: Carnosine, which, according to La Roche Posay, is "a molecule stemming from diabetes research, to inhibit the glycation process and help maintain skin suppleness".

I have not read any data that supports that this molecule is absorbed into the dermis where it will be able to have a preventative effect on glycation. La Roche maintains that it "inhibits the glycation process by 33%". On the company's website it says that this serum will also reduce oxidative stress (oxidation) by 49% (based on an in vivo study of patients subjected to UVA radiation) Hmmm. I thought we could do better than that with all the super antioxidants on the market- green tea polyphenols, pycnogenol, coffeeberry, etc etc. Can't Skinceuticals CE Ferulic even do better? (and it has been around for a long time now.) Opinions?

Edited by amonavis, 30 March 2010 - 07:24 AM.


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Posted 30 March 2010 - 07:55 AM

I am sometimes a fan of La Roche Posay products so I was pleased to try their new Derm AOX serum. However, its promises seem a bit lofty and I wonder if there is really science to back up their claims.

The serum is your standard antioxidant serum with vitamin C and E however it does also contain pycnogenol (said to be 20-50X stronger than Vitamin C/E). It also contains something different: Carnosine, which, according to La Roche Posay, is "a molecule stemming from diabetes research, to inhibit the glycation process and help maintain skin suppleness".

I have not read any data that supports that this molecule is absorbed into the dermis where it will be able to have a preventative effect on glycation. La Roche maintains that it "inhibits the glycation process by 33%". On the company's website it says that this serum will also reduce oxidative stress (oxidation) by 49% (based on an in vivo study of patients subjected to UVA radiation) Hmmm. I thought we could do better than that with all the super antioxidants on the market- green tea polyphenols, pycnogenol, coffeeberry, etc etc. Can't Skinceuticals CE Ferulic even do better? (and it has been around for a long time now.) Opinions?


I've never heard of carnosine being applied topically, but it is amazing stuff. I personally take 500 mg 3x/day (along with several other anti-glycation supps). If there's an added effect by applying it topically I'd be interested in trying it too.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 11:03 AM

I am sometimes a fan of La Roche Posay products so I was pleased to try their new Derm AOX serum. However, its promises seem a bit lofty and I wonder if there is really science to back up their claims.

The serum is your standard antioxidant serum with vitamin C and E however it does also contain pycnogenol (said to be 20-50X stronger than Vitamin C/E). It also contains something different: Carnosine, which, according to La Roche Posay, is "a molecule stemming from diabetes research, to inhibit the glycation process and help maintain skin suppleness".

I have not read any data that supports that this molecule is absorbed into the dermis where it will be able to have a preventative effect on glycation. La Roche maintains that it "inhibits the glycation process by 33%". On the company's website it says that this serum will also reduce oxidative stress (oxidation) by 49% (based on an in vivo study of patients subjected to UVA radiation) Hmmm. I thought we could do better than that with all the super antioxidants on the market- green tea polyphenols, pycnogenol, coffeeberry, etc etc. Can't Skinceuticals CE Ferulic even do better? (and it has been around for a long time now.) Opinions?



Carnosine has been around for a while in cosmetics. It is a synthetically produced peptide with great anti-oxidant properties. I attach a DS from one of the producers of Carnosine + an article (from a company that use Carnosine in their rawmaterials). It does not allow me to upload the file. Guess it is far too big :(

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 12:11 PM

One of the first commercially available formulations of carnosine was in an Australian cosmetic product applied directly on the skin. I am not sure if it has any positive benefits though. It is much better to use it by mouth.

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 06:12 PM

One of the first commercially available formulations of carnosine was in an Australian cosmetic product applied directly on the skin. I am not sure if it has any positive benefits though. It is much better to use it by mouth.



Yeah thats what I was wondering too- if it is better to take carsoine by mouth. Have there been any double blind studies on topical carosine?

Edited by amonavis, 30 March 2010 - 06:12 PM.


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Posted 30 March 2010 - 08:32 PM

Here is the article I cannot upload in a pdf file.

Collagen glycation and skin aging Schmid Daniel, Muggli Reto and Zülli Fred, Mibelle AG Cosmetics*

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Abstract
The Maillard reaction is a non-enzymatic
browning process involving reducing sugars and
amino groups of amino acids or proteins. It occurs in
most foods on heating and also takes place in-vivo, in
living organisms. At body temperature, this process,
called protein glycation, occurs more slowly. But the
reaction products accumulate during aging,
especially if long-lived proteins, such as structural
collagen or lens crystallins, are affected.
Maillard reaction products are irreversible and
detrimental for protein function as they lead to
protein crosslinking. They have been implicated in
pathologies associated with diabetes, atherosclerosis,
and Alzheimer’s disease. But for all individuals, the
consequences of protein glycation are involved in the
general aging phenomenon.
Collagens are important proteins for the skin, as
they are essential for structure and function of the
extracellular matrix in the dermis. Thinner and
wrinkled skin, the typical signs of normal aging, are
the consequence of reduced collagen. Protein
glycation contributes to skin aging as it deteriorates
the existing collagen by crosslinking. Accelerated skin
aging is especially noticeable in diabetic patients,
where glycation is increased because of the high
serum glucose level.
For diabetic patients, drugs against glycation are
available; but as glycation significantly contributes to
skin aging in everybody, we have looked for safe antiglycation
substances as ingredients in cosmetics.
Since the formation of dangerous crosslinking
glycation products is dependent on oxidation
reactions, the application of antioxidants in cosmetic
products was the strategy we chose to prevent
glycation. As antioxidants, we used a mixture of a
water soluble extract from grape seeds and lipid
soluble tocopherol. This mixture was tested for
inhibition of protein glycation by in vitro glycation
assays with the anti-glycation drug, aminoguanidine
serving as the control. Our results show that
antioxidants do indeed protect against protein
glycation to a similar extent as that achieved with
aminoguanidine.
Factors that induce skin aging
Cutaneous aging processes can be divided into two
groups - intrinsic and extrinsic processes. Extrinsic
aging is mainly the result of skin exposure to
environmental stresses such as UV-light or pollution
(Scharffetter-Kochanek et al. 2000).
There are different theories about the origin of
intrinsic aging, commonly called the "biological
clock". One theory is based on the observation that
diploid cells, such as fibroblasts, have a finite life-span
in culture (the Hayflick phenomenon). The
consequence of this is cellular senescence that leads to
altered gene expression and then to degenerative
changes in tissues (Campisi 1998, Faragher 2000).
Another intrinsic mechanism that contributes to skin
aging, is damage due to free radicals that accumulate
during the lifespan of an individual (the Free Radical
theory). The theory of glycation (Maillard theory), is
today widely recognised as a further general intrinsic
aging mechanism, (Kasper & Funk 2001, Reiser 1998).
Biochemistry of cutaneous aging
Histological analysis of aging skin shows more
profound alterations in the dermis than in the
overlying epidermis. The dermis is composed of
fibrillar collagen bundles and elastic fibres in a
complex array of proteoglycans and other
extracellular matrix components. Fibroblast cells are
embedded within the matrix. The proteins, collagen
and elastin, impart strength and resilience to the skin.
Histologically, skin aging is associated with a
Collagen glycation
and skin aging
Schmid Daniel, Muggli Reto and Zülli Fred, Mibelle AG Cosmetics*
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profound atrophy of dermal connective tissue (see
Fig. 1). Both the Hayflick phenomenon and the Free
Radical theory play a documented role in skin aging.
Senescent fibroblasts have a different gene
expression pattern to their still-dividing
counterparts. Presenescent fibroblasts express low
levels of matrix metalloproteases that degrade
extracellular matrix proteins like collagen. They also
express relatively high levels of the matrix
metalloproteinase inhibitors TIMP-1 and TIMP-3
(tissue inhibitors of metalloproteinases 1 and 3).
Upon senescence, the expression of matrix
metalloproteases increases and the expression of
their inhibitors TIMP-1 and TIMP-3 decreases. Thus
replicative senescence in dermal fibroblasts results in
a switch, from a matrix-producing, to a matrixdegrading,
phenotype (Campisi 1998).
A progressive rise of oxidative stress, due to
reactive oxygen species that are generated through
UV-light or are produced intrinsically, changes the
pattern of gene expression that results in both aging
and inflammation phenotype. The induction of
matrix metalloproteinases is the consequence of the
activation of the redox-regulated transcription
factors, nuclear factor kappa B (NF−κB) and activator
protein 1 (AP-1) (Lavrovsky et al. 2000, Bond et al. 1999,
Saliou et al. 1999).
Role of protein glycation in skin aging
Collagen and elastin, the two major structural
proteins of human tissue, are subjected to molecular
changes such as intermolecular cross-linking and
side-chain modifications, (Bailey 2001). Pyridinoline
crosslinks are formed enzymatically by lysyl oxidase.
This precise enzymatic process is important for
correct development of the extracellular matrix.
Nonenzymatically formed cross-links are the result of
spontaneous chemical reactions between proteins and
sugars. Through Amadori rearrangement, and
advanced Maillard reactions, advanced glycation end
products (AGE) are formed (see Fig. 2). The AGE
structures, pentosidine and mold, are protein
crosslinkers between lysine and arginine or two lysine
residues, respectively.
Pentosidine was found in increasing amounts with
age and diabetes, in plasma proteins, lens crystallins
and collagen-rich tissues. Protein glycation as a nonenzymatic
process is slow and therefore proteins with
a long biological half-life, such as collagen, are more
affected. Analysis of Maillard reaction products in the
skin collagen of diabetic and nondiabetic control
subjects (see Fig. 3) showed an age-related
accumulation of glycated collagen in both groups
(Dyer et al. 1993). The initial product in collagen
glycation, the Amadori product, was found to be
increased by 33% in normal subjects between 20 and
85 years of age. AGE products such as CML and
pentosidine increased up to fivefold. In diabetic
patients, the value for the Amadori product was
threefold and that for AGE products, twofold higher
than in normal subjects.
Glycation has several adverse effects on the
characteristics of collagen. It has been shown that the
accumulation of Maillard reaction products leads to
stiffer and more brittle collagen (Verzijl et al. 2000).
Glycation has been reported to affect the precise
aggregation of collagen monomers into fibres (Guitton
et al. 1981). Glycation not only influences the
properties of collagen and of the extracellular
matrix, but also affects matrix-cell interactions (for
review see Reiser). The extracellular matrix modulates
Figure 1. Schematic drawing of young and old skin.
Figure 2. Mechanism of formation of the advanced
glycation end products (AGE) pentosidine,
carboxymethyllysine (CML) and methyl
glyoxal-lysine dimer (MOLD).
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many characteristics of resident cells, including
migration, growth, proliferation, differentiation, and
gene expression. Thus, physical changes in matrix
components, such as nonenzymatic glycation of
collagen, may affect many cell behaviours. In general
it was shown that, cells grown on matrixes composed
of glycated proteins differ from cells grown on
normal matrix with respect to growth, differentiation,
motility, gene expression, and response to cytokines.
Several receptors for AGE’s have been identified that
are expressed on a wide range of cells. This could be
a way in which glycated matrix components might
influence cell behaviour. The RAGE receptor has
been found to accumulate in diabetes, Alzheimer's
disease and during aging. Binding of AGE’s to the
RAGE receptor results in the activation of the NF-κB
transcription factor, via generation of oxygen radicals
and MAP kinase signalling. NF-κB activation leads to
the induction of matrix metalloproteinases and to the
formation of pro-inflammatory cytokines (Singh et al.
2001).
AGE formation pathways
Protein glycation starts with a nonenzymatic
reaction between a sugar aldehyde or ketone, with a
free amino group of lysine. The resultant unstable
Schiff base product can then undergo an Amadori
rearrangement, to a relatively stable Amadori
product. Both the Schiff base product and the
Amadori product can be transformed by further
reactions to AGE’s such as carboxymethyllysine
(CML), pentosidine or mold. The inert,
noncrosslinking CML is a metal ion induced oxidative
breakdown product. Pentosidine is the most widely
described Maillard structure and has proven to be
useful as a protein glycation marker, as it has been
found in the collagen of all tissues. Pentosidine is a
fluorescent crosslinker, composed of lysine and
arginine moieties that are cross-linked by a pentose.
As the formation of pentosidine is inhibited in the
absence of oxygen, oxidation reactions are required
at some stage in its formation (Baynes 1991).
Meanwhile it seems that there are other mechanisms,
besides the Amadori reaction pathway, by which
sugars initiate the glycation of proteins, such as the
glucose auto-oxidation, the polyol or the triose
phosphate-methylglyoxal pathways (Reiser 1998).
AGE products, that arise by glycooxidative
mechanisms, require oxygen and are catalyzed by
traces of redox active transition metal ions (Thorpe &
Baynes 1996).
Strategies to inhibit AGE formation
There are several targets for inhibition of AGE
formation. Inhibitors may function as sugar
competitors and act by modifying free amino groups
of proteins in order to prevent sugar attachment. An
example is aspirin, which blocks glycation by
acetylating lysine residues. Other inhibitors react with
aldose and ketose sugars (protein competitors),
diverting them from Maillard reactions with proteins.
This class of inhibitors comprises compounds with
free amino groups such as the amino acid residues
lysine and arginine, and compounds like carnosine or
ethanolamine. The best known inhibitor,
aminoguanidine, probably acts on more than one
step of the Maillard cascade. It reacts with Amadori
compounds, but inhibition is thought to act mainly by
trapping reactive dicarbonyl intermediates that arise
from oxidation reactions of free sugars or Amadori
products (Khalifah et al. 1999). Aminoguanidine as a
hydrazine drug has a negative side effect, because it
depletes the body of essential carbonyl compounds
such as pyridoxal-5’-phosphate (vitamin B6). Other
inhibitors such as pyridoxamine or thiamine
pyrophosphate are referred to as post-Amadori
inhibitors as they inhibit most effectively at the
conversion step of Amadori intermediates to AGEís
(Khalifah et al. 1999). Since the formation of AGE
products is dependent on oxidation reactions, the use
of antioxidants like vitamins C and E or the plant
cytokin kinetin is another approach to prevent
advanced glycation (Verbeke et al. 2000).
Protein glycation inhibitors suitable for cosmetics
The use of Aminoguanidine, Pyridoxamine or
Aspirin is the pharmaceutical answer that is advised
for diabetic patients. For topical application in
Figure 3. Age-related increase in glycation products
(relative units) of skin collagen of normal and diabetic
subjects according to Dyer et al. 1993.
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cosmetic products, compounds active in the
prevention of glycation must be well tolerated, nonirritant
and without any toxicity or side effects.
Furthermore, the activity must be able to penetrate
into the skin, to cross the stratum corneum and finally
reach the living parts of the epidermis and the dermis
where the detrimental effects of glycation occur.
Monosaccharides, as a source of the glycation
problem, should be excluded from cosmetic
products. But simple sugars, as essential primary
metabolites, are ubiquitous in all living material and
are therefore also present in a lot of natural cosmetic
ingredients, for example, crude plant extracts or milk
fractions. Reducing sugars are often added as a major
component in moisturizing products, as humectants,
because they are a cheap raw material. In this way
glycation substrates are delivered to the skin. Good
humectant alternatives would be amino acid
residues or lactate, which are not involved
in the glycation process.
Self tanning products contain reducing molecules,
the most widely used ingredient being
dihydroxyacetone. These undergo the Maillard
reaction with skin surface proteins to produce a
durable brown colour. In the first instance, these
molecules react with proteins of the cornified, dead
cells of the stratum corneum, cells that are removed
with desquamation. A proportion of the ingredients
however, will penetrate deeper, reaching living
epidermis layers and the dermis, and there promote
protein glycation, one of the principal ageing
mechanisms.
Because the generation of AGE’s is dependent on
oxidation reactions, cosmetic products recommended
for aging skin should contain antioxidants. In
addition, metal chelators should be included, as a
proportion of the AGE’s are produced by autooxidation
of glucose where the oxidation is catalyzed
by metals (Thorpe & Baynes 1996).
Anti-glycation potential of a cosmetic ingredient
composed of water and lipid soluble antioxidants.
All living organisms protect themselves with a
combination of lipid soluble antioxidants, such as
vitamin E (tocopherol) and carotenoids and watersoluble
antioxidants, such as vitamin C and
glutathione. Grapes, especially the red species such as
Pinot Noir, are extraordinarily rich in polyphenols.
By far the largest portion is found in grape seeds, in
the form of procyanidins. Catechins and epicatechins
are the basic units of the procyanidins, which consist
of up to 50 monomers. Procyanidins are very
powerful water soluble radical scavengers, and are
frequently more effective antioxidants than vitamins
C or E. For our experiments we isolated procyanidins
from grape seeds in a mixture of water, glycerin and
alcohol. Vitamin E is naturally present in the skin,
where it protects skin lipids against peroxidation. The
final cosmetic ingredient that was tested in glycation
assays was composed of 85% grape seed extract, 10%
solubilizer and 5% alpha, gamma and delta
tocopherols (Zülli et al. 2001).
Materials and methods
In vitro glycation
Human albumin (Sigma, fraction V) or bovine lens
protein (Sigma) was dissolved at 10 mg/ml in 200 mM
phosphate buffer, pH 7.4, 500 mM glucose and 0.02%
sodium azide and incubated at 37°C. Aminoguanidine
hydrochloride (Fluka) was used at a final
concentration of 200 mM and the cosmetic
antioxidant ingredient at 10%. Samples for analysis of
Amadori and AGE reaction products were passed
over a PD-10 column, equilibrated in water, to
remove Schiff base and free glucose, and stored
frozen.
Measurement of Amadori reaction product
Amadori products were measured by the
periodate assay, using the protocol developed by
Ahmed and Furth (1991). The assay is based on
quantification of the released formaldehyde after
periodate oxidation of the C-1 hydroxyls in the
Amadori form of glycated proteins.
Desalted samples (300 μl) were diluted with H2O
to 500 μl and incubated with 250 μl 50 mM NaIO4 for
30 min at RT. To terminate the oxidation, samples
were cooled on ice for 10 min, and mixed with 250 μl
precooled 15 % ZnSO4 and 0.7 M NaOH by
vortexing. To remove precipitated zinc periodate,
samples were centrifuged for 10 min at 10'000 rpm in
an Eppendorf centrifuge. From the supernatants, 500
μl were mixed with 1 ml Formaldehyde detection
reagent that was freshly prepared by mixing 46 μl of
acetylacetone in 10 ml of 3.3 M ammonium acetate.
After 1 h incubation at 37°C, absorbance at 405 nm
was measured.
Measurement of AGE products
The formation of AGE’s was analyzed by
fluorescence measurements of the desalted samples
(200 μl) in a microplate fluorescence reader (Bio-Tek,
FL 600) at an excitation wavelength of 360 nm and an
emission wavelength of 440 nm.
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Results
In vitro assays with human serum albumin as the
test protein, clearly showed the formation of AGE’s in
the presence of glucose (Fig. 4). Addition of
aminoguanidine resulted in 90% inhibition of the
formation of glycation end products after 4 weeks. A
similar inhibition was achieved with the antioxidant
mixture.
Assays with bovine lens proteins showed a similar
result, although the inhibition was not as prominent
(Fig. 5). Aminoguanidine and the antioxidant
mixture, reduced formation of glycation end
products after 4 weeks by about 40% and 30%
respectively.
The same lens protein incubations were assessed
for the formation of Amadori products by the
periodate assay (Fig. 6). Neither aminoguanidine nor
the antioxidant mixture showed inhibition of
formation of the Amadori product, but rather a
stimulation of about 40% after 4 weeks.
Use of aminoguanidine, as well as the application
of antioxidants in the prevention of protein glycation,
seems to function by blocking the conversion step of
Amadori products to AGE’s. Greater accumulation of
Amadori products in the presence of aminoguanidine
or of the antioxidant ingredient, compared to
incubation with glucose alone, may be the result of
the different kinetic of the overall reaction. When
there is a block in the conversion reaction sequence of
Amadori product to AGE, the former will accumulate.
Only the AGE’s are detrimental for the skin, because
only these glycation end products cause protein
crosslinking and so collagen stiffening.
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#7 amonavis

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Posted 30 March 2010 - 09:16 PM

VERY interesting article Eva. Thanks for posting. I found this part particularly interesting:

"Monosaccharides, as a source of the glycation
problem, should be excluded from cosmetic
products. But simple sugars, as essential primary
metabolites, are ubiquitous in all living material and
are therefore also present in a lot of natural cosmetic
ingredients, for example, crude plant extracts or milk
fractions. Reducing sugars are often added as a major
component in moisturizing products, as humectants,
because they are a cheap raw material. In this way
glycation substrates are delivered to the skin. Good
humectant alternatives would be amino acid
residues or lactate, which are not involved
in the glycation process.
Self tanning products contain reducing molecules,
the most widely used ingredient being
dihydroxyacetone. These undergo the Maillard
reaction with skin surface proteins to produce a
durable brown colour. In the first instance, these
molecules react with proteins of the cornified, dead
cells of the stratum corneum, cells that are removed
with desquamation. A proportion of the ingredients
however, will penetrate deeper, reaching living
epidermis layers and the dermis, and there promote
protein glycation, one of the principal ageing
mechanisms."

When I used a self tanner for a year or so I did notice that my skin started to look worse. I think that I have corrected much of the damage by now fortunately.

Obviously it is important to avoid any skincare ingredients that contribute to glycation. What other common ingredients besides dihydroxyacetone should we ensure to avoid in our products?

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 09:45 AM

VERY interesting article Eva. Thanks for posting. I found this part particularly interesting:

"Monosaccharides, as a source of the glycation
problem, should be excluded from cosmetic
products. But simple sugars, as essential primary
metabolites, are ubiquitous in all living material and
are therefore also present in a lot of natural cosmetic
ingredients, for example, crude plant extracts or milk
fractions. Reducing sugars are often added as a major
component in moisturizing products, as humectants,
because they are a cheap raw material. In this way
glycation substrates are delivered to the skin. Good
humectant alternatives would be amino acid
residues or lactate, which are not involved
in the glycation process.
Self tanning products contain reducing molecules,
the most widely used ingredient being
dihydroxyacetone. These undergo the Maillard
reaction with skin surface proteins to produce a
durable brown colour. In the first instance, these
molecules react with proteins of the cornified, dead
cells of the stratum corneum, cells that are removed
with desquamation. A proportion of the ingredients
however, will penetrate deeper, reaching living
epidermis layers and the dermis, and there promote
protein glycation, one of the principal ageing
mechanisms."

When I used a self tanner for a year or so I did notice that my skin started to look worse. I think that I have corrected much of the damage by now fortunately.

Obviously it is important to avoid any skincare ingredients that contribute to glycation. What other common ingredients besides dihydroxyacetone should we ensure to avoid in our products?


What is damaging for your skin is not allowed in cosmetics in the EU nor in the US, AU, Ca.
What I think one can be aware of is the alcohol content in products. It dries the skin and also makes that other ingredients/chemicals can penetrate deeper. There are other better ways to ensure penetration.
I particularly avoid Paraffin and its byproducts. Generally petrochemical products are not so good for your skin on the long run. Silicones belong to this group as well.

What I think one should look for is simple formulations that don't contain unnecessary ingredients ("fillers"), rich in actives with a documented delivery system, packaged in airless pumps/ tubes for less preservative use and longest duration of the actives.

Most cosmetics contain 80-95% water, a bit of oil and almost no actives. Emulsifiers, fillers for achieving nicer cosmetic properties. And all this is packaged in jars.

Let me give you to examples of the two latest serums launched. Both contain Ascorbyl Glycoside as the main ingredient.
1. DIOR – CAPTURE TOTALE ONE ESSENTIAL SKIN BOOSTING SUPER SERUM ( $95.00; Marketed as anti-oxidant serum).



INGREDIENTS

Aqua(Water), Butylene Glycol, Glycerin, Alcohol, Caprylic/ Capric/ Succinic Triglyceride, Ascorbyl Glucoside, Polymethylsilsesquioxane, Isohexadecane, Lactic Acid, Maltitol, PEG 60 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Aminomethyl Propanediol, Phenoxyethanol, PEG 32, PEG 8, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl/ Acrylate Crosspolymer, Sodium Citrate, Sodium Hydroxide, Decyloxazolidinone, PEG 7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Parfum (Fragrance), Tetrasodium EDTA, Faex (Yeast Extract), Lecithin, Calcium Pantetheine Sulfonate, Acacia Senegal Gum, Pyrus Cydonia Seed Extract, Salicylic Acid, Xanthan Gum, Malva Sylvestris (Mallow Extract), Alcaligenes Polysaccharides, Dimethylmethoxy Chromanol, Hydrolyzed SoyProtein, Adenosine, Sorbitol, Biosaccharide Gum-1, Pentylene Glycol, Hydrolyzed Soy Protein, Sodium Metabisulfite, Algin, Citric Acid, Aframomum Angustifolium Seed Extract, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Thiohistidine, Limonene, Polivinyl Alcohol, Oenothera Biennis (Evening Primrose) Root Extract, Kluveromyces Extract, Cellulose Gum, Ethylhexyl Glycerin, Alpha Isomethyl Ionone, Geraniol, Potassium Sorbate, Plankton Extract, Potentilla Erecta Root Extract, CI 14700 (Red 4), BHT, Tocopherol

It has fantstic up to date ingredients that actually can fight free radicals effectively.But it contain high amount of alcohol, Polymethylsilsesquioxane, Isohexadecane, PEG 60 Hydrogenated Castor Oil and low concentration of the actual anti-oxidants.

2. CLINIQUE – EVEN BETTER CLINICAL DARK SPOT CORRECTOR ($49; marketed reducing pigmentation)



INGREDIENTS

Water/Aqua/Eau, Dimethicone, Isododecane, Cyclopentasiloxane, Polysilicone-11, Butylene Glycol, Ascorbyl Glucoside, PEG-10 Dimethicone, Curcuma Longa (Turmeric) Root Extract, Oryza Sativa (Rice) Bran Extract, Citrus Grandis (Grapefruit) Peel Extract, Hordeum Vulgare (Barley) Extract/Extrait d’Orge, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Extract, Betula Alba (Birch) Bark Extract, Cucumus Sativus (Cucumber) Fruit Extract, Dimethoxytolyl Propylresorcinol, Scutellaria Baicalensis Root Extract, Morus Bombycis (Mulberry) Root Extract, Trametes Versicolor Extract, Saccharomyces Lysate Extract, Yeast Extract/ Faex/ Extrait de Levure, PEG-6, Tromethamine, Salicylic Acid, Polysorbate 20, Cholesterol, Isohexadecane, Propylene Glycol Dicaprate, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seedcake, Caffeine, Tocopheryl Acetate, Acetyl Glucosamine, Simethicone, Glycyrrhetinic Acid, Polysorbate 80, Sodium Hyaluronate, DI-C12-18 Alkyl Dimonium Chloride, Sodium RNA, Squalane, Sodium Sulfate, Sodium Metabisulfite, Caprylyl Glycol, Hexylene Glycol, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/ VP Coplymer, Acrylamide/Sodium Acryloyldimethyltaurate Copolymer, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Yellow 6 (CI 15985), Yellow 5 (CI 191402)

It is a very nice serum packed with anti-oxidants but again most of them are in far too low concentration to be able to have any significant effect on the skin and the base of the serum is Si/W that actually can clog the pores with long term usage.

#9 amonavis

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Posted 31 March 2010 - 07:51 PM

I avoid alcohol too just beacuse I find it irritating and it makes my face red. I also avoid petrochemicals because mineral oil forms a coating on the skin and I don't like how it layers with other products. It also causes acne sometimes.

Why don't you like silicones? Some people find they cause a residue on the skin but I feel that using a retinoid allows for enough exfoliation.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 02:03 AM

Woah!! Some great information in this thread. :)

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 08:39 AM

. . .

I've never heard of carnosine being applied topically, but it is amazing stuff. I personally take 500 mg 3x/day (along with several other anti-glycation supps). If there's an added effect by applying it topically I'd be interested in trying it too.


What other anti-glycation supplements are available, if I may ask?

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 09:41 AM

I avoid alcohol too just beacuse I find it irritating and it makes my face red. I also avoid petrochemicals because mineral oil forms a coating on the skin and I don't like how it layers with other products. It also causes acne sometimes.

Why don't you like silicones? Some people find they cause a residue on the skin but I feel that using a retinoid allows for enough exfoliation.


Silicones are also products of the petrochemical industry. Even though they can add extremely nice, cosmetically elegant properties to products. But they leave a thin layer on the skin and do clog pores.
And none of the petrochemical products are bio-degradable either.
The only good thing of silicone IMO is that it allows formulators to create great sunscreen formulas with cosmetically elegant finish.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 12:41 PM

What other anti-glycation supplements are available, if I may ask?


Easily available are aminoguanidine, metformin, pyridoxamine, also N-acetyl-carnosine

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Posted 02 April 2010 - 12:16 AM

can Carnosine actually penetrate through to skin to the dermis where it will act as a magnet for sugar molecules, as la roche posay suggests? Or is it better to take all of these anti glycation substances internally?

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Posted 06 April 2010 - 07:15 AM

. . .

I've never heard of carnosine being applied topically, but it is amazing stuff. I personally take 500 mg 3x/day (along with several other anti-glycation supps). If there's an added effect by applying it topically I'd be interested in trying it too.


What other anti-glycation supplements are available, if I may ask?


I also take pyridoxamine (50 mg twice/day) and benfotiamine (50 mg 3x/day). Both of those work well too.

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 12:38 AM

[Aside from carnosine,] What other anti-glycation supplements are available, if I may ask?

Despite the universal agreement on this thread, I am aware of exactly zero evidence that carnosine actually inhibits the formation of AGE in vivo to any appreciable degree. And slowing down the horrendous death rate of an oxidative-stress generating mutant mess like the SAMP mouse with an antioxidant is a no-brainer of no relevance to normal human aging.

I also take pyridoxamine (50 mg twice/day) and benfotiamine (50 mg 3x/day). Both of those work well too.

At least in animal models, and the clinical trials in diabetics are certainly suggestive. However, are you aware of the possible " Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxamine??) Neurotoxicity, Impaired Synaptic Density, Ultrastructural Damage" (see thread of that name, linked, and also my comments on that thread); and the possible cancer-permissive effect of benfotiamine?

I've quit both, myself ...

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 01:17 PM

What about topical Beta-Alanine? I tried it in a DIY serum I made and it gave the same histamine skin flush as when I take it orally.
Flush went away rather quickly. I also wonder how topical Benfotiamine would work???? I'm using rather good penetrating agents in my serum.

Edited by mustardseed41, 02 May 2010 - 01:23 PM.


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Posted 06 May 2010 - 08:52 PM

What about topical Beta-Alanine? I tried it in a DIY serum I made and it gave the same histamine skin flush as when I take it orally.
Flush went away rather quickly. I also wonder how topical Benfotiamine would work???? I'm using rather good penetrating agents in my serum.



I've been taking Beta alanine orally for several weeks and my skin seems to be improving.. Seems smoother for sure... I'm taking it for ergogenic reasons too! :-)

Just found this on Pubmed....

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/3095942

Edited by shaggy, 06 May 2010 - 08:53 PM.





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