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#1 zencatholic

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 05:32 PM


Why is this?

Being a life extensionist really teaches me a lot about my nature, and probably the nature of many of us as well.

I'm always looking for the latest and greatest (affordable) supplements. I'm never satisfied with my regimen. A lot of people look at material wealth and possessions with the same passion. I don't think passion for material possessions is healthy, but then I wonder how far removed our "passion" is from that.

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 05:37 PM

Our passion is the passion for self-improvement, not necessarily having the most supplements. I may drop some of my supplements in the future for better or more effective supplements, it's an on-going process. I'm not that interested in gaining immense material wealth, but my quest for cognitive self-improvement is one of my interests, you could even call it a "passion" of mine.

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 05:54 PM

I see no harm in this passion. Whatsoever. Some people have a passion for sports; I have a passion for supplements that improve quality of life.

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 07:50 PM

I don't think passion for material possessions is healthy

My passion for material possessions/$$$ comes down to my fight to achieve immortality. Currently I am convinced that I need immense wealth to become immortal. If that view changes somehow by the advent of cheap abundant immortality enabling technology, it would not be a bad thing to have the material portfolio still available. If it comes down to immortality or material possessions/$$$, I would choose immortality within the blink of an eye. That is, I would give everything I got to become immortal.

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 07:58 PM

Hi all!
I was recently reading posts at this site and ran across one from adamp2p that mentioned Holosync. I have been using Holosync for 8 weeks now and am thrilled with the benifits. I would like very much to share thoughts and experiences in regard to this...any takers?
Also, I am taking Ashwagandha and was concerned that I should be taking it at night. I seem to be groggy during the day from one of the many suppliments that I'm on, but not sure which!

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 08:02 PM

My passion for material possessions/$$$ comes down to my fight to achieve immortality. Currently I am convinced that I need immense wealth to become immortal. If that view changes somehow by the advent of cheap abundant immortality enabling technology, it would not be a bad thing to have the material portfolio still available. If it comes down to immortality or material possessions/$$$, I would choose immortality within the blink of an eye. That is, I would give everything I got to become immortal.


I'm not interested in material wealth, literally as in wealth in what I own. I would like to be wealthy because it will make my goals of self-improvement much easier.

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 08:35 PM

I think we are on the same track. The difference I thinks is that, I also se physical possessions as part of my wealth, since they improve my ability to collect more wealth as well as them selves having a value in terms of $$$

#8 ryan1113

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 09:03 PM

Hi all!
I was recently reading posts at this site and ran across one from adamp2p that mentioned Holosync.  I have been using Holosync for 8 weeks now and am thrilled with the benifits.  I would like very much to share thoughts and experiences in regard to this...any takers?
Also, I am taking Ashwagandha and was concerned that I should be taking it at night.  I seem to be groggy during the day from one of the many suppliments that I'm on, but not sure which!


The bulk of the literature on ashwagandha claims says it is nontoxic, but there is a study showing that it caused kidney lesions in rats:

J Ethnopharmacol 1985 Jul;13(3):323-35 Studies of medicinal plants of
Sri Lanka. Part 14: Toxicity of some traditional medicinal herbs.
Arseculeratne SN, Gunatilaka AA, Panabokke RG. Seventy five medicinal
plants of the traditional Ayurvedic pharmacopoeia of Sri Lanka have
been screened chemically for alkaloids and pyrrolizidine alkaloids. Of
these, Crotolaria juncea L. was found to contain pyrrolizidine
alkaloids with biological effects consistent with pyrrolizidine
alkaloid toxicity. Feeding trials in rats with three plants lacking
pyrrolizidine alkaloids, namely Aegle marmelos (L.) Corr., Hemidesmus
indicus (L.) Ait. F. and Terminalia chebula Retz. produced hepatic
lesions which included central vein abnormalities while Terminalia
chebula and Withania somnifera (L.) dunal produced marked renal
lesions. PMID: 4058035

However, it does seem to have a long list of potential positive effects. Hopefully it does not cause kidney/liver damage in humans at appropriate dosages.

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#9 Kalepha

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 09:52 PM

Zen Catholic, I’ve often wondered the same, if my choices are based on overcompensation for what I baselessly perceive as physiological shortcomings. Am I bounded to act only according to modeled consequences that are arbitrarily regarded as good or bad? Unfortunately, indulgence in minimality is just as equally unjustifiable, so this line of thinking seems to be self-refuting. So I suppose the fewer good reasons you have for doing anything, the fewer things you should actually do. In this case, if there aren't really good reasons to keep tweaking your regimen, especially since physical immortality is not entirely contingent upon it, then perhaps leaving it alone for a while and eating healthier, and then leaving that program alone when devised, may be an idea worth consideration. Just a thought.

Edited by Nate Barna, 25 July 2004 - 10:24 PM.





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