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[goku]

My knees are starting to get that tweaked sharp pain occasionally. I do a lot of plyometrics and smoke pot, and have heard both could potentially cause this a bit. Not looking to stop either aforementioned habit, what are best options for joints.

Glucosamine and chondroitin I know of, but what versions are best and what other options are available?

Would short term hgh use possibly regrow worn out cartilage?

thanks for any advice

[jackdaniels]

I have had more success combating joint pain with fish oil than glucosamine, chondroitin, msm.

[Imagination]

Sam-e is supposed to be good for the joints.

[Logan]

First of all, stop smoking pot, it's not good for you.

You might want to find a doc in your area that does PRP injections, if you have the money to pay for them that is. Do a google search on platelet rich plasma.

A few supplement suggestions are 5-Loxin and Biosil.

[chrono]

My knees have been cracking a lot lately when standing up. I haven't been able to be very active in the past few years due to a back condition, which I'm sure is a contributing factor.

Is this problem addressed by these same supplements, possibly?

First of all, stop smoking pot, it's not good for you.

This statement needs a lot of qualification.

[Lufega]

Gelatin.

[maxwatt]

The best thing I've found for arthritic joint inflammation is resveratrol, possibly due to nf-Kappa-beta inhibition.
YMMV
But as an anti-inflammatory, for me it works better than ibuprofen or naproxen or celebrex.

[Logan]

My knees have been cracking a lot lately when standing up. I haven't been able to be very active in the past few years due to a back condition, which I'm sure is a contributing factor.

Is this problem addressed by these same supplements, possibly?

First of all, stop smoking pot, it's not good for you.

This statement needs a lot of qualification.

The best thing you can do for your knees is to stay active. If you belong to a gym try using the eliptical machine or recombant bike.

So do you think that smoking pot is harmless or actually good for one's health? The OP even said they think the pot has something to do with their joint issues. I realize marijuana can be very helpful for certain conditions, but I can't imagine that smoking it is a healthy past time otherwise. You need qualification, well, I don't know if I can give that. All I know is everyone I work with that smokes pot is moody and they often get irritable. One of them admits that his pot smoking habit has impaired his memory some. My sister had a boyfriend that smoked pot nearly daily for 20 years and often would forget where he parked his car. His short term memory was becoming seriously impaired. No this may not qualify my original statement but for me it is enough to believe that smoking pot on a regular basis has adverse effects.

[chrono]

The best thing you can do for your knees is to stay active. If you belong to a gym try using the eliptical machine or recombant bike.

Right now I'm saddled with a fairly severe chronic back pain condition, which prevents me from being very active. Or more accurately, punishes me severely for relatively small amounts of activity. Started to do a little reading on M&M this week about joints, but most of that is geared toward people who push their bodies the way I can't.

So do you think that smoking pot is harmless or actually good for one's health?

I think that marijuana is a substance with both benefits and adverse effects, which must be weighed, just like anything else we discuss here. I stopped smoking last year, because in my estimation a few drawbacks outweighed the many positive factors.

I only suggest that saying "stop X, it's bad for you" because of one putative adverse effect (and a somewhat tenuous connection, at that) is a misleading blanket statement. It sounds like you have an emotional aversion to the substance. If you want to convince people to stop using it, studies have shown that acknowledging both positives and negatives is more effective than blanket negative statements (i.e. "this is your brain on drugs").

[tunt01]

isn't hyaluronic acid supposed to be very helpful for joints? lufega created a thread a while ago on hyaluronic acid and its unique effects on chondrocytes (cartilage). search the forums.

[Mia K.]

My knees are starting to get that tweaked sharp pain occasionally. I do a lot of plyometrics and smoke pot, and have heard both could potentially cause this a bit. Not looking to stop either aforementioned habit, what are best options for joints.

Glucosamine and chondroitin I know of, but what versions are best and what other options are available?

Would short term hgh use possibly regrow worn out cartilage?

thanks for any advice

Hi, goku.


Now, I don't know what that sharp pain is that you refer to.  Were it my knee, I'd have it looked at by my doc.

But then, I had major knee surgery a few years ago, so any sharp pain knee pain would scare the *bleep* out of me.

I took NewChapter Zyflamend for quite a while - did nothing but drain my wallet.  Best things I've found for keeping any pain/swelling/inflammation at bay are fish oil (I use 4:1 EPA:DHA) along with high quality curcumin & turmeric and regular use of an Elasto-Gel Therapy Wrap (cold + pressure).  I'd also consider Glucosamine Sulfate 1500mg daily.

A good book to look at is Treat Your Own Knees by Jim Johnson, P.T. (Hunter House, 2003).

Hope this is of some help.  Best, Mia

(Weed made me feel absolutely paranoid both times I tried it.  Definitely not the altered state I wanted.  Perhaps you might consider letting it go for your own good.) 

[chrono]

Just did a quick google and pubmed search. The only relation I could find between marijuana and joint pain was the apparent usefulness for treatment. Probably some kind of myth.

Edited by chrono, 10 April 2010 - 03:20 PM.

[Logan]

Just did a quick google and pubmed search. The only relation I could find between marijuana and joint pain was the apparent usefulness for treatment. Probably some kind of myth.

Yeah I had never heard of marijuana causing joint pain.

Chrono, what is the nature of your back condition? Is it disc related? I was thinking you might be interested in checking out platelet rich plasma to see if that might be an option.

[chrono]

Chrono, what is the nature of your back condition? Is it disc related? I was thinking you might be interested in checking out platelet rich plasma to see if that might be an option.

I had impingement of shoulder tendons about 4 years ago, which was (almost entirely) corrected with surgery. Now I just have a lot of muscular problems in my upper back and neck which were only made worse by everything suggested to me by my not-so-great doctors at the time. Am currently chipping away at chiropractic acupuncture when I can afford it, which hurts like hell but seems to be slowly helping.

Just read a little about platelet rich plasma, that's some sexy science. I wish I'd known about that back when tendons were part of the problem; I didn't see any mention of application to muscles.

[Ethan Snell]

I would agree with jackdaniels. I found that fish oil supplements work better for me than glucosamine and chondroitin. In fact, most supplements that contain chondroitin may not be very effective at all. In a review of joint supplements I read that the molecules of chondroitin sulfate are too big to pass through the gastrointestinal wall and so the effects are redundant. (http://www.jointprod....com/flexicose/).

I prefer a fish oil supplement any day. It not only helps support joint health, but helps keep the heart and brain healthy, too. But you need to choose a quality fish oil supplement for maximizing the health value of fish oil. Many fish oil supplements contain impurities, like mercury and PCBs, which can be harmful to health in the long run. It’s always better to choose a triple strength fish oil supplement.

If you truly want to excel in plyometrics, give up smoking pot, dude!

[ripple-effect]

Try Neptune Krill Oil - several times more bioavailable than fish oil

http://www.iherb.com...tgels/1984?at=0

Edited by ripple-effect, 13 April 2010 - 03:22 PM.