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[24 Is Ours]

Hello, I'm a 21 yr old male and I suffer from a pretty severe case of ADD/ADHD. Without supplements I'm unable to sit down and do much of anything. I have a hard time comprehending anything I read from books and I even find it hard to follow the flow of conversation. I also suffer from anxiety, and get quite irritable often (which I'm sure is part of the ADD/ADHD) I'm quite new to this Nootropic supplementation but I've been messing with some normal vitamins and they've seemed to help. Here is what I take daily, hopefully you guys could give me some feedback on possibly something I should add or change or possibly something I shouldn't be taking at the same times? I know certain supplements inhibit others from doing their job correctly....

My Daily Supplement Regimen:

8 Calcium/Mag (1:1) - 4 Capsules in the morning (500mg calcium/mag) and 4 at lunch.
2 Fish Oil - 850 mg of EPA/DHA 1 morning 1 at lunch
1 E 100 IU - morning
1 B-50 Complex - morning
1 Vitamin C 1000MG - morning
1 D3 2,000 IU - morning
2 Tablespoons of Lecithin Granules - 1 tblspoon in the morning 1 at lunch
1 Acetyl-l-carnitine 250mg - morning
1 Alpha Lipoic Acid 120mg - morning
1 Glutamine 500 MG - morning



I just recently added DMAE 65mg (I cut the 130mg in half) into my regimen and it seems to really be helping me, but I do experience some mild headaches and it makes me a little tired.
I just ordered some Piracetam as well cause I heard its pretty bad-ass, what do you guys think?

Edited by 24 Is Ours, 08 June 2010 - 12:25 AM.

[VoidPointer]

Hello, I'm a 21 yr old male and I suffer from a pretty severe case of ADD/ADHD. Without supplements I'm unable to sit down and do much of anything. I have a hard time comprehending anything I read from books and I even find it hard to follow the flow of conversation. I also suffer from anxiety, and get quite irritable often (which I'm sure is part of the ADD/ADHD) I'm quite new to this Nootropic supplementation but I've been messing with some normal vitamins and they've seemed to help. Here is what I take daily, hopefully you guys could give me some feedback on possibly something I should add or change or possibly something I shouldn't be taking at the same times? I know certain supplements inhibit others from doing their job correctly....

My Daily Supplement Regimen:

8 Calcium/Mag (1:1) - 4 Capsules in the morning (500mg calcium/mag) and 4 at lunch.
2 Fish Oil - 850 mg of EPA/DHA 1 morning 1 at lunch
1 E 100 IU - morning
1 B-50 Complex - morning
1 Vitamin C 1000MG - morning
1 D3 2,000 IU - morning
2 Tablespoons of Lecithin Granules - 1 tblspoon in the morning 1 at lunch
1 Acetyl-l-carnitine 250mg - morning
1 Alpha Lipoic Acid 120mg - morning
1 Glutamine 500 MG - morning



I just recently added DMAE 65mg (I cut the 130mg in half) into my regimen and it seems to really be helping me, but I do experience some mild headaches and it makes me a little tired.
I just ordered some Piracetam as well cause I heard its pretty bad-ass, what do you guys think?

next to stimulants, exercise works best for treating ADD/ADHD symptoms. Actually intense (HIIT) exercise will work better than that supplement program. A good diet will definitely help, and that supplement regime seems reasonable, but if you really have ADD go get evaluated for it by a MD.

Even if you do not want to go the stimulant route, Wellbutrin can be effective in treating some ADD symptoms. Adding Magnesium and Zinc may also help.

Edited by VoidPointer, 08 June 2010 - 12:40 AM.

[24 Is Ours]

Hello, I'm a 21 yr old male and I suffer from a pretty severe case of ADD/ADHD. Without supplements I'm unable to sit down and do much of anything. I have a hard time comprehending anything I read from books and I even find it hard to follow the flow of conversation. I also suffer from anxiety, and get quite irritable often (which I'm sure is part of the ADD/ADHD) I'm quite new to this Nootropic supplementation but I've been messing with some normal vitamins and they've seemed to help. Here is what I take daily, hopefully you guys could give me some feedback on possibly something I should add or change or possibly something I shouldn't be taking at the same times? I know certain supplements inhibit others from doing their job correctly....

My Daily Supplement Regimen:

8 Calcium/Mag (1:1) - 4 Capsules in the morning (500mg calcium/mag) and 4 at lunch.
2 Fish Oil - 850 mg of EPA/DHA 1 morning 1 at lunch
1 E 100 IU - morning
1 B-50 Complex - morning
1 Vitamin C 1000MG - morning
1 D3 2,000 IU - morning
2 Tablespoons of Lecithin Granules - 1 tblspoon in the morning 1 at lunch
1 Acetyl-l-carnitine 250mg - morning
1 Alpha Lipoic Acid 120mg - morning
1 Glutamine 500 MG - morning



I just recently added DMAE 65mg (I cut the 130mg in half) into my regimen and it seems to really be helping me, but I do experience some mild headaches and it makes me a little tired.
I just ordered some Piracetam as well cause I heard its pretty bad-ass, what do you guys think?

next to stimulants, exercise works best for treating ADD/ADHD symptoms. Actually intense (HIIT) exercise will work better than that supplement program. A good diet will definitely help, and that supplement regime seems reasonable, but if you really have ADD go get evaluated for it by a MD.

Even if you do not want to go the stimulant route, Wellbutrin can be effective in treating some ADD symptoms. Adding Magnesium and Zinc may also help.

I get quite a lot of exercise, at least 2 hours a day. I don't eat any fast food and I'm in great shape. I went to an MD a while back and he gave me some Adderall and it made me totally miserable, I didn't like it. A few months later I went to a psychologist and she gave me some Lamictal, and I wound up getting that nasty "lamictal rash". I tried 5-HTP and it seemed to really help me but I stopped using it because I heard it's really bad for you're liver and heart (serotonin gets into the blood-stream and damages you're heart and other organs they say). I'll do some research on Wellbutrin, thanks. Oh, and I already take mag with my calcium. Should I supplement with zinc by itself as well?

Edited by 24 Is Ours, 08 June 2010 - 12:49 AM.

[24 Is Ours]

I read somewhere that Acetyl-l-carnitine should be taken a few hours away from dmae? I usually take Lecithin along with my acetyl-l-carnitine and take my dmae about 2 hours later. I'm also unsure of when to take my piracetam once I get it.

[chrono]

8 Calcium/Mag (1:1) - 4 Capsules in the morning (500mg calcium/mag) and 4 at lunch.
2 Fish Oil - 850 mg of EPA/DHA 1 morning 1 at lunch
1 E 100 IU - morning
1 B-50 Complex - morning
1 Vitamin C 1000MG - morning
1 D3 2,000 IU - morning
2 Tablespoons of Lecithin Granules - 1 tblspoon in the morning 1 at lunch
1 Acetyl-l-carnitine 250mg - morning
1 Alpha Lipoic Acid 120mg - morning
1 Glutamine 500 MG - morning

I just recently added DMAE 65mg (I cut the 130mg in half) into my regimen and it seems to really be helping me, but I do experience some mild headaches and it makes me a little tired.
I just ordered some Piracetam as well cause I heard its pretty bad-ass, what do you guys think?

Hi! What you've listed is a good starting point, though most of these are good for general brain support/health and probably won't make a dramatic difference for attentional difficulties. I would switch away from a calcium/magnesium combo supplement. Calcium supplementation probably isn't necessary unless you have a confirmed deficiency, and I believe they can inhibit each other's absorption if taken at the same time. Magnesium malate and glycinate are good forms that don't cause GI problems for most people.

ALCAR does have the potential to exert a noticeable nootropic effect, and increase focus, but 250mg is a very small dose. I take 1000mg morning and afternoon, and it helps greatly with focus and staying on-task. Even 1500mg is a reasonable dose, especially if you're taking ALA.

You may be getting headaches/fatigue from too much choline. Lecithin and DMAE are both choline precursors, and ALCAR increases the rate at which the body manufactures acetylcholine from precursors. I would drop lecithin and DMAE, and up your dose of ALCAR. This should take care of the choline supplementation requirement for piracetam, as well. If you think DMAE is helping you, you could try to add a small amount to the ALCAR once you're used to the new dose. I can't do this, as any amount of these precursors with ALCAR gives me a headache, but I know some people can.

I agree that piracetam is very badass, in a pretty subtle way. Piracetam + ALCAR is my sustainable combination for avoiding adderall...it doesn't help at all with motivation, but it helps tremendously with focus and clarity. I would start with 800mg piracetam + 1000mg ALCAR in the morning, and again about 5-6 hours later.

Edited by chrono, 08 June 2010 - 01:16 PM.

[24 Is Ours]

8 Calcium/Mag (1:1) - 4 Capsules in the morning (500mg calcium/mag) and 4 at lunch.
2 Fish Oil - 850 mg of EPA/DHA 1 morning 1 at lunch
1 E 100 IU - morning
1 B-50 Complex - morning
1 Vitamin C 1000MG - morning
1 D3 2,000 IU - morning
2 Tablespoons of Lecithin Granules - 1 tblspoon in the morning 1 at lunch
1 Acetyl-l-carnitine 250mg - morning
1 Alpha Lipoic Acid 120mg - morning
1 Glutamine 500 MG - morning

I just recently added DMAE 65mg (I cut the 130mg in half) into my regimen and it seems to really be helping me, but I do experience some mild headaches and it makes me a little tired.
I just ordered some Piracetam as well cause I heard its pretty bad-ass, what do you guys think?

Hi! What you've listed is a good starting point, though most of these are good for general brain support/health and probably won't make a dramatic difference for attentional difficulties. I would switch away from a calcium/magnesium combo supplement. Calcium supplementation probably isn't necessary unless you have a confirmed deficiency, and I believe they can inhibit each other's absorption if taken at the same time. Magnesium malate and glycinate are good forms that don't cause GI problems for most people.

ALCAR does have the potential to exert a noticeable nootropic effect, and increase focus, but 250mg is a very small dose. I take 1000mg morning and afternoon, and it helps greatly with focus and staying on-task. Even 1500mg is a reasonable dose, especially if you're taking ALA.

You may be getting headaches/fatigue from too much choline. Lecithin and DMAE are both choline precursors, and ALCAR increases the rate at which the body manufactures acetylcholine from precursors. I would drop lecithin and DMAE, and up your dose of ALCAR. This should take care of the choline supplementation requirement for piracetam, as well. If you think DMAE is helping you, you could try to add a small amount to the ALCAR once you're used to the new dose. I can't do this, as any amount of these precursors with ALCAR gives me a headache, but I know some people can.

I agree that piracetam is very badass, in a pretty subtle way. Piracetam + ALCAR is my sustainable combination for avoiding adderall...it doesn't help at all with motivation, but it helps tremendously with focus and clarity. I would start with 800mg piracetam + 1000mg ALCAR in the morning, and again about 5-6 hours later.

Thank you, crono!

Hmm, thats strange due to the fact there's so many calcium supplements that include mag. I take the calcium because I stopped drinking milk (it upsets my stomach). I understand that ALCAR is good for manufacturing acetylcholine but doesn't it have to be taken with choline? I thought ALCAR just raised acetylcholine levels and had nothing to do with raising choline. I'm not sure if its a placebo but it seems like the Lecithin really awakened my brain ! I was using a supplement from LifeExtension called Acetyl-L-Carnitine Arginate (300 mg Acetyl-l-Carnitine Hyrdochloride, 320 mg Acetyl-l-Carnitine Arginate Dihydrochloride) and it seemed to give me some brain fog and a dull headache. Maybe my body doesn't agree to the upped dose of the Acetyl-l-Carnitine, or maybe the side effects would of faded if I continued it for a few more days? I'll up my dose of Acetyl-l-carnitine and see how I feel without the lecithin but I think I'm gonna continue with the low dose of DMAE with it. Do you think I should start taking the Acetyl-l-Carntine Arginate twice a day instead of upping my acetyl-l-carnitine to 1000mg just by itself? Dmae really seems to help me put together thoughts and my verbalization skills are a lot more fluent. I am gonna have to stick with the low dose of dmae, I really believe in it :] Can't wait to get my piracetam ! Thanks again, crono.

Edited by 24 Is Ours, 08 June 2010 - 01:36 PM.

[chrono]

Hmm, thats strange due to the fact there's so many calcium supplements that include mag. I take the calcium because I stopped drinking milk (it upsets my stomach). I understand that ALCAR is good for manufacturing acetylcholine but doesn't it have to be taken with choline? I thought ALCAR just raised acetylcholine levels and had nothing to do with raising choline. I'm not sure if its a placebo but it seems like the Lecithin really awakened my brain ! I was using a supplement from LifeExtension called Acetyl-L-Carnitine Arginate (300 mg Acetyl-l-Carnitine Hyrdochloride, 320 mg Acetyl-l-Carnitine Arginate Dihydrochloride) and it seemed to give me some brain fog and a dull headache. Maybe my body doesn't agree to the upped dose of the Acetyl-l-Carnitine, or maybe the side effects would of faded if I continued it for a few more days? I'll up my dose of Acetyl-l-carnitine and see how I feel without the lecithin but I think I'm gonna continue with the low dose of DMAE with it. Do you think I should start taking the Acetyl-l-Carntine Arginate twice a day instead of upping my acetyl-l-carnitine to 1000mg just by itself? Dmae really seems to help me put together thoughts and my verbalization skills are a lot more fluent. I am gonna have to stick with the low dose of dmae, I really believe in it :] Can't wait to get my piracetam ! Thanks again, crono.

As for the Cal/Mg, it's probably not a complete inhibition. But another drawback is that you're stuck at a certain ratio, which may not be optimal for your needs, or even healthy. There's lots of supplements out there that aren't very intelligently designed. It may be fine, but I encourage you to do some more reading about calcium supplementation, and the combination. There's been quite a bit of discussion here, sorry I can't point you any threads right now, but google search boxing calcium magnesium should bring up some relevant threads.

While it's cool that DMAE is doing you some good, I'd do some more reading on that as well, if you haven't already. It's one of the few choline supplements that a fair amount of bad things have been said about (see this thread, as one example).

ALCAR indeed does not raise choline levels. But the body can make choline from other substances. Whether you need additional choline while taking ALCAR probably depends on diet, and other physiological factors. It's possible the brainfog you got from ~500mg ALCAR indicated a need for concurrent choline supplementation. Or you could be one of the few who doesn't respond well to ALCAR. Maybe try it again with lecithin (would be a more useful experiment than DMAE, as lecithin probably has less of its own effect). The arginate form has been shown in one study to have an increased effect on NGF/neurite outgrowth, but I haven't heard anyone say its dosage or effects are subjectively different. You should start out at 500mg ALCAR and titrate up if you had a bad reaction to it before. Depending on how rich you are, you could use the arginate product for your whole dose, but many people just use it for a portion to reap a little of the putative NGF benefits.

[24 Is Ours]

Hello, I'm a 21 yr old male and I suffer from a pretty severe case of ADD/ADHD. Without supplements I'm unable to sit down and do much of anything. I have a hard time comprehending anything I read from books and I even find it hard to follow the flow of conversation. I also suffer from anxiety, and get quite irritable often (which I'm sure is part of the ADD/ADHD) I'm quite new to this Nootropic supplementation but I've been messing with some normal vitamins and they've seemed to help. Here is what I take daily, hopefully you guys could give me some feedback on possibly something I should add or change or possibly something I shouldn't be taking at the same times? I know certain supplements inhibit others from doing their job correctly....

My Daily Supplement Regimen:

8 Calcium/Mag (1:1) - 4 Capsules in the morning (500mg calcium/mag) and 4 at lunch.
2 Fish Oil - 850 mg of EPA/DHA 1 morning 1 at lunch
1 E 100 IU - morning
1 B-50 Complex - morning
1 Vitamin C 1000MG - morning
1 D3 2,000 IU - morning
2 Tablespoons of Lecithin Granules - 1 tblspoon in the morning 1 at lunch
1 Acetyl-l-carnitine 250mg - morning
1 Alpha Lipoic Acid 120mg - morning
1 Glutamine 500 MG - morning



I just recently added DMAE 65mg (I cut the 130mg in half) into my regimen and it seems to really be helping me, but I do experience some mild headaches and it makes me a little tired.
I just ordered some Piracetam as well cause I heard its pretty bad-ass, what do you guys think?

next to stimulants, exercise works best for treating ADD/ADHD symptoms. Actually intense (HIIT) exercise will work better than that supplement program. A good diet will definitely help, and that supplement regime seems reasonable, but if you really have ADD go get evaluated for it by a MD.

Even if you do not want to go the stimulant route, Wellbutrin can be effective in treating some ADD symptoms. Adding Magnesium and Zinc may also help.

I just went out and bought some OPTIZINC and I can't believe that within 20 minutes of taking it I feel 100x better, holy shit.. I'm speechless..I read that exercising (which I do a lot of) depletes zinc! And all these white spots on my nails are because of low zinc.. Void, thank you so much for bringing up the possibility of zinc helping me !! I haven't felt this good in so long ..

[Digital Nuro]

Also an ADDer
Might want to try:
1000mg ALCAR and 150 MG ALA with Biotin in the AM on empty stomach ( or R ala for now I use 1/2 Jarrow sustained release 2x daily)
*use with caution if you suspect a Thyroid problem
Centrophenoxine instead of DMAE 500mg 3x daily
DMAE game me headaches if I used it for more than 2 days, been taking Cento for over a week and haven't had one
Green Tea extract or brew some green tea ( I use source naturals caffeine free ) Nice clean boost sometimes 1/2 them
Other antioxidants like ACAI and blueberries are helpful ( I try to have a steady stream throughout the day *think this has been quite beneficial)

*This one helped, Smooth calming effect take in the AM and evening Rhodiola Extract 250 mg ( Life extensions brand 3% rosavins 1 salidrosides)
Read that Mind body and spirit brand is pretty good, new chapter brand is good or planetary herbals
L Carnosine
Nicinamide if your prone to anxiety
Gaba complex ( twinlabs with inositol, gaba and Niacinamide)
Taurine
Also added Ginkgo recently (life extensions brand) every now and then

SAMe is helpful every now and then in the afternoon 200mg ( doctors best pharm grade) haven't taken it since starting the Rhodiola


Happy to say No migraines or withdraw in the morning anymore. No horrible feelings of withdraw in the evening.
Also take priacetam 2g and aniracetam 1.5g roughly daily (just added 2 weeks ago)
2000mg High EPA omega 3
Mind feels like its getting a bit better each day, memory is improving and can read with out having to take adderall

I take these every now and then:
Panax ginsing tea
Ubiquinol (kaneka QH)
Phosphatidyl Sserine Matrix (source naturals)
PEA ( bit too stimulating at 750mg might want to try a low dose every couple of days)
Cycle between CDP choline and Alpha GPC
Vit E with Selenium
Magnesium Taurinate ( evening snack )
Mag, calc D3 and K2 supplement or calc, B6, zinc ( very low dose sometimes with lunch)

Hope this is useful and you are able to find a stack that works for you.
PM me with any questions

Looking into:
Ashwanandha, Ashitaba, DHEA, creatine, Picamilon, alcar arginate, Bacopa monnieri, L theanine, Lions mane

[24 Is Ours]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Edited by 24 Is Ours, 13 June 2010 - 06:22 PM.

[stablemind]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Have you ever been diagnosed with anything? Just out of curiosity. Any mood issues (ups and downs)?

[24 Is Ours]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Have you ever been diagnosed with anything? Just out of curiosity. Any mood issues (ups and downs)?

I've had some anxiety/depression previously but the vitamins/supplements I listed above seemed to have helped me. After adding in some magnesium (without calcium) and some zinc I feel completely better! I noticed when my MD put me on Adderall I became angry as well. My anger from Piracetam has faded after that dose of CDP-Choline, wonder why.. I guess Lecithin and Acetyl-l-carnitine by themselves weren't supplying enough Choline for the Piracetam?

[24 Is Ours]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

[rvdvaart]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Thanks for your log. I just ordered Piracetem and I'm curious of other people's experience with it. I'm sorry its not working for you so far. As with any supplement, I would give it a couple weeks before ditching it. From what I've read, Piracetam has a cumulative effect in that it builds in your body. You should definitely take a Choline supplement with it. Almost everyone on this board whose had success with Piracetam has supplemented Choline - this is a must because of acetlycholine depletion. Good luck

Edited by rvdvaart, 14 June 2010 - 01:36 AM.

[24 Is Ours]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)

**I am taking all vitamins mentioned above with my Piracetam**
****I've also been diagnosed with Depression so my log may not be helpful for everyone.****


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Day 4

Woke up at 8am and took my Piracetam + CDP-Choline and felt sleepy within an hour of taking them. At 10 o'clock I decided to take an extra B-Complex. It's now been an hour since I've taken the extra B-Complex and I notice a lift in mood and music sounds really crisp. I've noticed an improvement in my comprehension and ability to concentrate. This makes me wonder if I'm genetically low in B-Vitamins because according to the crono meter I'm getting enough b-vitamins just from my diet alone!

[24 Is Ours]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)

**I am taking all vitamins mentioned above with my Piracetam**
****I've also been diagnosed with Depression so my log may not be helpful for everyone.****


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Day 4

Woke up at 8am and took my Piracetam + CDP-Choline and felt sleepy within an hour of taking them. At 10 o'clock I decided to take an extra B-Complex. It's now been an hour since I've taken the extra B-Complex and I notice a lift in mood and music sounds really crisp. I've noticed an improvement in my comprehension and ability to concentrate. This makes me wonder if I'm genetically low in B-Vitamins because according to the crono meter I'm getting enough b-vitamins just from my diet alone!

Day 4 (continued)

It's now 2pm and I feel very anxious and slightly depressed, yet my focus/alertness/multi-tasking ability is still above baseline.. very strange.

[24 Is Ours]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)

**I am taking all vitamins mentioned above with my Piracetam**
****I've also been diagnosed with Depression so my log may not be helpful for everyone.****


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Day 4

Woke up at 8am and took my Piracetam + CDP-Choline and felt sleepy within an hour of taking them. At 10 o'clock I decided to take an extra B-Complex. It's now been an hour since I've taken the extra B-Complex and I notice a lift in mood and music sounds really crisp. I've noticed an improvement in my comprehension and ability to concentrate. This makes me wonder if I'm genetically low in B-Vitamins because according to the crono meter I'm getting enough b-vitamins just from my diet alone!

Day 4 (continued)

It's now 2pm and I feel very anxious and slightly depressed, yet my focus/alertness/multi-tasking ability is still above baseline.. very strange.

After my second dose at 5pm things only got better! My anxiety and slight feeling of depression totally faded and my vision and hearing seemed to improve. I'm starting to now notice many positive affects such as improvements in analytical thinking, creativity, and an overall sense of calmness

Edited by 24 Is Ours, 15 June 2010 - 01:52 AM.

[stablemind]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)

**I am taking all vitamins mentioned above with my Piracetam**
****I've also been diagnosed with Depression so my log may not be helpful for everyone.****


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Day 4

Woke up at 8am and took my Piracetam + CDP-Choline and felt sleepy within an hour of taking them. At 10 o'clock I decided to take an extra B-Complex. It's now been an hour since I've taken the extra B-Complex and I notice a lift in mood and music sounds really crisp. I've noticed an improvement in my comprehension and ability to concentrate. This makes me wonder if I'm genetically low in B-Vitamins because according to the crono meter I'm getting enough b-vitamins just from my diet alone!

Day 4 (continued)

It's now 2pm and I feel very anxious and slightly depressed, yet my focus/alertness/multi-tasking ability is still above baseline.. very strange.

After my second dose at 5pm things only got better! My anxiety and slight feeling of depression totally faded and my vision and hearing seemed to improve. I'm starting to now notice many positive affects such as improvements in analytical thinking, creativity, and an overall sense of calmness

I've heard a lot of people seen improvements from piracetam after supplementing L-Glutamine, see the Piracetam non-responder's thread. This is just something you might want to keep in mind if Piracetam stops working. Do you plan on eventually tapering off to see where you are at baseline?

[24 Is Ours]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)

**I am taking all vitamins mentioned above with my Piracetam**
****I've also been diagnosed with Depression so my log may not be helpful for everyone.****


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Day 4

Woke up at 8am and took my Piracetam + CDP-Choline and felt sleepy within an hour of taking them. At 10 o'clock I decided to take an extra B-Complex. It's now been an hour since I've taken the extra B-Complex and I notice a lift in mood and music sounds really crisp. I've noticed an improvement in my comprehension and ability to concentrate. This makes me wonder if I'm genetically low in B-Vitamins because according to the crono meter I'm getting enough b-vitamins just from my diet alone!

Day 4 (continued)

It's now 2pm and I feel very anxious and slightly depressed, yet my focus/alertness/multi-tasking ability is still above baseline.. very strange.

After my second dose at 5pm things only got better! My anxiety and slight feeling of depression totally faded and my vision and hearing seemed to improve. I'm starting to now notice many positive affects such as improvements in analytical thinking, creativity, and an overall sense of calmness

I've heard a lot of people seen improvements from piracetam after supplementing L-Glutamine, see the Piracetam non-responder's thread. This is just something you might want to keep in mind if Piracetam stops working. Do you plan on eventually tapering off to see where you are at baseline?

Well since I am seeing such drastic improvements now, I'm planning on taking it for a while. I guess ill taper off months down the road and see how I'm feeling without it. The effects are suppose to stay with you long term after stopping, right?

Day 5

Woke up in the morning feeling feeling great. A few hours after my first dose my depressed feelings came back. Took 1 500MG L-Glutamine around lunch time and by 4:00 I noticed a drastic improvement in my ability to absorb information and remember it. Supplementing with the L-Glutamine also took my depressed feelings away and most definitely amplified the effects. I am very happy with the results so far !

Edited by 24 Is Ours, 15 June 2010 - 11:19 PM.

[stablemind]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)

**I am taking all vitamins mentioned above with my Piracetam**
****I've also been diagnosed with Depression so my log may not be helpful for everyone.****


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Day 4

Woke up at 8am and took my Piracetam + CDP-Choline and felt sleepy within an hour of taking them. At 10 o'clock I decided to take an extra B-Complex. It's now been an hour since I've taken the extra B-Complex and I notice a lift in mood and music sounds really crisp. I've noticed an improvement in my comprehension and ability to concentrate. This makes me wonder if I'm genetically low in B-Vitamins because according to the crono meter I'm getting enough b-vitamins just from my diet alone!

Day 4 (continued)

It's now 2pm and I feel very anxious and slightly depressed, yet my focus/alertness/multi-tasking ability is still above baseline.. very strange.

After my second dose at 5pm things only got better! My anxiety and slight feeling of depression totally faded and my vision and hearing seemed to improve. I'm starting to now notice many positive affects such as improvements in analytical thinking, creativity, and an overall sense of calmness

I've heard a lot of people seen improvements from piracetam after supplementing L-Glutamine, see the Piracetam non-responder's thread. This is just something you might want to keep in mind if Piracetam stops working. Do you plan on eventually tapering off to see where you are at baseline?

Well since I am seeing such drastic improvements now, I'm planning on taking it for a while. I guess ill taper off months down the road and see how I'm feeling without it. The effects are suppose to stay with you long term after stopping, right?

Day 5

Woke up in the morning feeling feeling great. A few hours after my first dose my depressed feelings came back. Took 1 500MG L-Glutamine around lunch time and by 4:00 I noticed a drastic improvement in my ability to absorb information and remember it. Supplementing with the L-Glutamine also took my depressed feelings away and most definitely amplified the effects. I am very happy with the results so far !

I take piracetam in cycles of a few months at about 10 grams per day, and notice feeling considerably slower following the cessation of use. It's difficult to directly attribute the dullness to the stoppage of piracetam, but I certainly do feel a lot 'duller' when I am not using it-- moreso than before I even began using piracetam in the first place. Kinda disconcerting.

http://www.imminst.o...ect-t34874.html


Piracetam isn't supposed to have lasting effects. As soon as you stop taking it, you may have a rebound effect. I'm not sure what your long term goal is, but when I try piracetam I'm probably going to try tapering off after a week just to see what it's like. I think i'd be wise to see what it feels like so you know what you have coming after long term supplementation.

[stablemind]

I received my Primaforce Piracetam 800mg supplement and started off with an initial attack dose of 1.6 grams in the morning/afternoon/night for the first 2 days.

(I'm also taking acetyl-l-carnitine along with the lecithin and piracetam if that makes any difference)

**I am taking all vitamins mentioned above with my Piracetam**
****I've also been diagnosed with Depression so my log may not be helpful for everyone.****


Day 1

I noticed after taking my first 1.6g dose I started getting a headache so I took 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache seemed to fade for a few hours only to come back after my second dose. I took another 2 tbl spoons to try and relieve the headache but this time it didn't seem to work as well, but I stuck it out until my third dose. After taking my third dose with another 2 tbl spoons of lecithin my headache seemed to be gone but by this time I actually felt like my memory had gotten considerably worse!


Day 2

Woke up and took my 1.6g along with my 2 tbl spoons of lecithin and the headache came back within an hour. I also started noticing that I no longer had patients to do much of anything and some brainfog. After my second dose in the afternoon I felt extremely irritable and that continued the rest of the night.

Day 3 (today)

I lowered my dose now to 1 pill in the morning along with the lecithin. Upon awakening I noticed feeling on the edge, and very angry. I experienced another headache so I decided to take a CDP-Choline pill and my headache was gone in 45 minutes.


Maybe I'm a non-responder, but it seems like my memory and ability to communicate verbally has gotten worse. Maybe in time it will get better? I'm not sure if I should continue using it with the cdp-choline and maybe things will improve or just stop taking it. If I do continue using it and the side effects do not improve, would it be safe to just stop coldturkey?

Its been about 2 hours since my second dose of my Piracetam and I'm ready to fall asleep..Can anyone explain this?

Day 4

Woke up at 8am and took my Piracetam + CDP-Choline and felt sleepy within an hour of taking them. At 10 o'clock I decided to take an extra B-Complex. It's now been an hour since I've taken the extra B-Complex and I notice a lift in mood and music sounds really crisp. I've noticed an improvement in my comprehension and ability to concentrate. This makes me wonder if I'm genetically low in B-Vitamins because according to the crono meter I'm getting enough b-vitamins just from my diet alone!

Day 4 (continued)

It's now 2pm and I feel very anxious and slightly depressed, yet my focus/alertness/multi-tasking ability is still above baseline.. very strange.

After my second dose at 5pm things only got better! My anxiety and slight feeling of depression totally faded and my vision and hearing seemed to improve. I'm starting to now notice many positive affects such as improvements in analytical thinking, creativity, and an overall sense of calmness

I've heard a lot of people seen improvements from piracetam after supplementing L-Glutamine, see the Piracetam non-responder's thread. This is just something you might want to keep in mind if Piracetam stops working. Do you plan on eventually tapering off to see where you are at baseline?

Well since I am seeing such drastic improvements now, I'm planning on taking it for a while. I guess ill taper off months down the road and see how I'm feeling without it. The effects are suppose to stay with you long term after stopping, right?

Day 5

Woke up in the morning feeling feeling great. A few hours after my first dose my depressed feelings came back. Took 1 500MG L-Glutamine around lunch time and by 4:00 I noticed a drastic improvement in my ability to absorb information and remember it. Supplementing with the L-Glutamine also took my depressed feelings away and most definitely amplified the effects. I am very happy with the results so far !

I take piracetam in cycles of a few months at about 10 grams per day, and notice feeling considerably slower following the cessation of use. It's difficult to directly attribute the dullness to the stoppage of piracetam, but I certainly do feel a lot 'duller' when I am not using it-- moreso than before I even began using piracetam in the first place. Kinda disconcerting.

http://www.imminst.o...ect-t34874.html


Piracetam isn't supposed to have lasting effects. As soon as you stop taking it, you may have a rebound effect. I'm not sure what your long term goal is, but when I try piracetam I'm probably going to try tapering off after a week just to see what it's like. I think i'd be wise to see what it feels like so you know what you have coming after long term supplementation.

Just out of curiosity, are you the hyperactive type or the inattentive type?

[Lufega]

I was going to suggest zinc based on some positive studies with ADHD. I see it was already covered.

Nutrient supplementation approaches in the treatment of ADHD.
Rucklidge JJ, Johnstone J, Kaplan BJ.

Department of Psychology, University of Canterbury, Private Bag 4800, Christchurch 8140, New Zealand. julia.rucklidge@canterbury.ac.nz

Abstract
Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a chronic, debilitating psychiatric illness that often co-occurs with other common psychiatric problems. Although empirical evidence supports pharmacological and behavioral treatments, side effects, concerns regarding safety and fears about long-term use all contribute to families searching for alternative methods of treating the symptoms of ADHD. This review presents the published evidence on supplementation, including single ingredients (e.g., minerals, vitamins, amino acids and essential fatty acids), botanicals and multi-ingredient formulas in the treatment of ADHD symptoms. In most cases, evidence is sparse, mixed and lacking information. Of those supplements where we found published studies, the evidence is best for zinc (two positive randomized, controlled trials); there is mixed evidence for carnitine, pycnogenol and essential fatty acids, and more research is needed before drawing conclusions about vitamins, magnesium, iron, SAM-e, tryptophan and Ginkgo biloba with ginseng. To date, there is no evidence to support the use of St John's wort, tyrosine or phenylalanine in the treatment of ADHD symptoms. Multi-ingredient approaches are an intriguing yet under-researched area; we discuss the benefits of this approach considering the heterogeneous nature of ADHD.

PMID: 19344299 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]