Where are the laws of physics from? Good question! Bad intentions though: "Where is God from?"
If you can say God was always there you can just as easy say that the laws of physics were always there.. In truth I believe that one day we will know everything about the universe (or almost everything) and will know how it was created out of "nothing" but have one question remaining: "Why does anything exist while reason says there should be nothing?" and I am sorry Shadowhawk, if God exists then it applies too "Why God exists?" or "Why God exists where there should be nothing?".. difference between you and I is that my questions don't stop at God. Even if God will reveal to me I am not sure my curiosity will stop, I might just go and ask God "Ok, thank you for explaining everything to me, but I have one thing still unexplained, I can understand you created the universe and everything.. but how did you come to be?". In my perspective it is easier to believe that there are some rules of physics that caused the universe to emerge rather than an omnipotent being which was just there.. That being had to emerge somehow too so...
Also, having God is a bit comfortable isn't it? No need to fear of death, no need to fear of the world, just live your life, be a good person, there are no troubles for me if there is no death.. I would be so comfortable with God. Problem is - I don't see any one evidence for God (don't get into this debate, it won't work either way). It's way too easy and it doesn't make any sense.
So yes, I guess I misunderstood something in the first post I replied to you and I am sorry for my really bad reply, I was probably having a really bad time when writing it and I don't think any of my attitude was really directed towards you.
And yes, I agree with you, without a constant being to know absolutely everything and control it all there are no absolute morals. Although you can come into debate that even if such being exists, it may be wrong, it may be a subject to its own feelings and desires, from reading the bible at school it seemed pretty certain that there were a lot of emotions there, but hey - maybe it was just a hidden way to teach humans things?
debates are useless, there is not enough information and the two of us are too sure of their opinions.So as I said, although I agree that without something constant there are probably no absolute rules/morals/meanings, as I said, even with that constant those values might not be absolute due to the nature of that constant. Just as I might have a child, I may be its creator but I doubt it gives him much more meaning to life, an omnipotent being might give a bit more but seeing as we are today and how I feel, it might help feel better but probably not give true meaning as I doubt there is a true meaning in those hopefully infinite universe.
And although I semi-agree (as explained twice) with you on one point, the second point as we know is still far from concluded and might never be. Hey we might meet in haven and then it will.. I might go to hell, sure better than death - still a point for you if I do. We might never die or we might both end up blurgh :/
I'd be happy if you are the one who wins that specific debate, you probably know it. My lack of faith isn't from lack of will, it's from the lack of evidence. I am sure everyone has all the will in the world to have God, Haven and Hell out there to fix all their problems. For me, just one main problem bothers me, the rest will be fixed in one way or the other anyways and can be dealt with.
