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#1 PhDStudent

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 09:31 AM


I have too much intestinal yeast, and bad bacterias like klebsiella oxytoca. I even get bloated from drinking water. Fart like a reactor. Don't digest fats well. Many, many other symptoms. I started fasting/juicing to reduce stress on my GI tract, and since then i lost a lot of hunger.

This summer I want to get my GI tract top shape, at all costs.

So what's the best plan for optimal GI tract health? Have anyone used the "3-R" method? Sometimes it actually takes 4 R like

1. Remove: Remove toxins, allergens and harmful organisms with an elimination diet and detoxification protocol.

2. Replace: Replacement of digestive enzymes and other factors until the patient's GI complaints can be normalized.

3. Reinoculate: Reinoculate the gut with beneficial probiotics and prebiotics to reestablish microflora balance.

4. Repair: For full healing of the intestinal mucosa, repairing gut integrity is essential. This includes reducing inflammation, providing nutrients for GI cell growth, and strengthening liver and immune function.


1. I did Genova Diagnostics stool test, and I'm taking a pharmaceutial anti-fungal plus cut the refined carbs plus taking CandiZyme. I will also run a course of a broad spectrum gut antimicrobial agent. I'm detoxifying (following the 7-Day Detox Miracle plan) and gonna add Immunocal or ImmunoPro. Already got some psyllium husk.

All my life I had some mild symptoms of food/additives/chemical sensitivities, but I dont know to what. So I also plan to do a rotation diet (elimination diet) but I'll need to do it really well because I dont think any food will give me a clear no bueno. Is there a good protocol out there to do a full food/additives elimination diet?

I already tested foods for IgE and IgG, but I dont know what to think of the result. Like I had IgE response to eggwhites and IgG response to yokes, but I have a hard time thinking that I could genetically be intolerant to eggs (seems strange to me from an evolution point of view). Could these the modulated by factors like gut flora and so on?


2. I bought digestive enzymes + betaine HCL from Twinlab. I can take 5-6 caps of it with a simple meal of mostly veggies and still feel no acidity whatsoever. Got some cathartics and a colon cleanse if needed. Have people had success with colostrum or other food/supplements?


3.I got Dandelion root for the inulin, and a good probiotic (L bifidus + L acidofilus + FOS). Thinking of trying Jerusalem artichokes. Anyone tried e coli strain Nissle 1917?


4. For now I'm juicing on veggies, thinking of adding glutamine and raw rice proteins or something like that at some point. What about inflammation? Turmeric (circumin)?

For liver there is stuff in my detox plan, like milk thistle, NAC, ALA, vitamin A, C & E, etc. Beside the undenatured proteins stated above, what else for immune function?


Anything I'm missing? Please do not write bullshit, or if you write a suggestion without having researched it to some level, please write so..

Anyone tried the full ALCAT food/additives and chemical sensitivities test?

Finally I have a bag of l-lysine HCl at home and never felt increased acidity from it, i wonder why betaine HCl would be different?

#2 ahk

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Posted 04 July 2010 - 05:04 PM

I usually find a simple diet of plain oatmeal for breakfast/lunch/dinner for a day takes care of most of my GI issues (does something like a reset). Chewing on fennel seeds helps to an extent for digestion. Coconut oil may help with fungal issues. /not researched in any great detail

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#3 ajnast4r

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:45 PM

you should be taking yeast & bacteria. well studied strains & high doses. what you will most likely hear echoed through these forums is: saccharomyces boulardii and VSL #3

#4 MoodyBlue

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:35 PM

For intestinal gas here's a probiotic formula that worked well for me and a friend of mine: http://www.naturesse...stive-bliss.asp. Here's a digestive enzyme formula with a type of probiotic which has a very high survival ability while passing through the harsh environment of the stomach. I haven't used Pepzin GI because my stomach feels fine, but it looks like you could use it. It's also good for the intestines. See here: http://pepzingi.org/. Also you should benefit from Polyenylphosphatidylcholine PPC. Read this post: http://www.mindandmu...ndpost&p=445298.

#5 James Cain

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 05:15 AM

you should be taking yeast & bacteria. well studied strains & high doses. what you will most likely hear echoed through these forums is: saccharomyces boulardii and VSL #3



A cheaper and tastier and, in my experience, more effective method for getting lactic acid bacteria is to buy yogurt with good active cultures and buy some milk. Mix the two in a glass jar, cover and leave at room temperature for 3-5 days (stirring occasionally) until it's sour to your liking. More sour = more lactic acid bacteria and more lactic acid. Alternatively, put the concoction into the oven with just the light on and it'll be done in 24-48 hours. Mix in a crushed lactase enzyme pill if the lactose bothers you. Save a few tablespoons (instead of using store-bought yogurt) to mix with more milk and repeat the process.

Of course there are different ways to go about this, and different types of cultures and fermentations of various products, but doing something along these lines at home will give you a much greater exposure to beneficial bacteria at a more sustainable expense. I actually mixed some Greek yogurt with GoodBelly Plus into some milk to start my current batch and it's my best tasting version yet. Using different yogurts, probiotic pills, or whatever will give you different bacterial populations and different tastes and consistencies, so if it sucks the first time try it again with something else. Cultured/fermented foods will help your digestion much more than any probiotic pill, though some pills certainly have proven effective for some people.

#6 MoodyBlue

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 09:40 PM

It seems you have dysbiosis. See here for a definition: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysbiosis. Here's a product called CytoFlora which probably will make a big difference. It should get rid of the bad bacteria so that a healthy flora can return your health to homeostasis. If colonies of pathogenic bacteria are dominating in your gut, merely taking probiotics probably won't get rid of them. I'm already using their NDF nanonized cilantro and chlorella detox formula, and it works much better than any cheap non-nanonized cilantro and chlorella product. Here's the Healthy Gut product: http://www.bioraynat...t-function.aspx.

#7 kurdishfella

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Posted 04 June 2021 - 03:46 PM

your small intestine is more open minded than your big intestine, meaning small intestine absorbs anything that comes but big intestine / and stomach don't only certain things that have evolutionary found a critical necessity, like vitamin b3 and all other minerals and vitamins, and proteins, elements etc and so on. All other b vitamins though and vitamin E and A are not absorbed in the big intestine or anywhere, but in the small intestine ONLY, this is so that your body is dependent on them and its metabolism to change and adapt, as these are necessities for energy and energy is life. So your big intestine only absorbs a specific type of zinc thats found in food that it has taken in for all times.

https://old.reddit.c...itamins_making/

So I would suggest b vitamins and activated charcoal. 


Edited by kurdishfella, 04 June 2021 - 03:50 PM.





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