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Should Obama Approve Keystone XL Oil Pipeline?


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Poll: Should Obama Approve Keystone XL Oil Pipeline? (16 member(s) have cast votes)

Should Obama Approve Keystone XL Oil Pipeline?

  1. Yes we can! (6 votes [37.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  2. No we shouldn't! (4 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  3. I don't know (2 votes [12.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  4. Who cares, Obama is the Antichrist! (1 votes [6.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.25%

  5. Only if corporations reap huge profts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. Environmentalists are gay (2 votes [12.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  7. Drinking oil makes you immortal! (1 votes [6.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.25%

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#1 CuringTheSane

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:55 PM


Keystone Pipeline

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TransCanada Keystone Pipeline

"TransCanada Keystone Pipeline, LLC (Keystone) is proposing to construct and operate a crude oil pipeline from Hardistry (Alberta), Canada to Patoka, Illinois (view map of project). The pipeline will be able to deliver 435,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil to existing terminals in Missouri (Salisbury) and Illinois (Wood River and Patoka). The system capacity could be expanded in the future up to 591,000 bpd.

The proposed project includes 1,073 miles of new pipeline in the U.S. (Keystone Mainline). The Keystone Mainline will be comprised of 1,018 miles of 30-inch diameter pipeline from the Canadian border to Wood River, Illinois and 55 miles of 24-inch diameter pipeline from Wood River to Patoka, Illinois. Keystone may also construct an additional pipeline segment from near the Nebraska-Kansas border to Cushing, Oklahoma consisting of 291 miles of 30-inch diameter pipeline.

Because this proposed project will cross into the United States from Canada, a Presidential Permit issued by the U.S. Department of State is required for the project to proceed (see link below to the permit issued on March 11, 2008). This makes the project subject to the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA), which requires disclosure of potential environmental impacts (beneficial and adverse) and the consideration of possible alternatives."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDebpHjmcUc

EPA slams State Department tar sands pipeline study

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As John Podesta has said, the phrase "green tar sands" is like "error-free deepwater drilling" and "clean coal". Thankfully, a key Canadian energy goal – construction of a 1,700 mile pipeline to bring dirty tar sands oil from Alberta to refineries on the U.S. Gulf Coast – has hit a significant speed bump, the U.S. EPA. CAP's Tom Kenworthy has the story."

Like Heroin Addiction

"Building a speculative seven billion dollar dirty oil pipeline from and to North America's two oil gluttons – Alberta and Texas – is eerily similar to the physiological symptoms that grip a heroin addict trying to kick the habit. You can literally sense the craving, restlessness, insomnia, and anxiety of these oil executives who would seemingly have no purpose if unable to suck oil out of the ground and continue reaping obscene profits at the expense of the public interest. Even putting aside the multiple better uses for seven billion dollars (did someone say "solar?"), this ill-conceived, harmful and non-transparent 1700 mile pipeline -- across some of America's most treasured prairie landscapes -- possesses two major flaws that strongly militate against the United States allowing it to proceed: 1) It would incapacitate the lungs of North America, the great Boreal Forest, with a bitumen extraction process that would destroy an area the size of Florida; 2) It would take us in the opposite direction of where scientists tell us we need to go in order to stabilize our planet's climate with a standard of at least 350 parts per million of atmospheric carbon dioxide. We should not let a foreign corporation continue an American addiction to oil. Alternatives exist. The Tar Sands Pipeline is a false choice perpetrated by the industry that brought us the Gulf of Mexico disaster. Just say no."

#2 CuringTheSane

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 02:20 PM

Strange, for a people who want to live forever, you have so little to say about your own habitat being destroyed. I guess technology will fix all of that though, right? :laugh:

#3 1kgcoffee

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:26 AM

They must be joking? Comparing oil, the lifeblood of a struggling economy, to heroin? LOL! As if we'd be better off without a relatively cheap and fungible source of energy.
I am actually in favour of an even more politically unpopular source of energy- nuclear.

Speaking as an Albertan, the tax dollars will go into our coffers whether the oil is sold to America or the Chinese so take it or leave it.
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#4 ericthered10

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

Considering that our choices are to either wean ourselves off of our addiction to fossil fuels or face the imminent destruction of our ecosystem, I'd say the analogy is apt, if not open to a bit of derision for being alarmist. Alarm is what is needed in this case.


They must be joking? Comparing oil, the lifeblood of a struggling economy, to heroin? LOL! As if we'd be better off without a relatively cheap and fungible source of energy.
I am actually in favour of an even more politically unpopular source of energy- nuclear.

Speaking as an Albertan, the tax dollars will go into our coffers whether the oil is sold to America or the Chinese so take it or leave it.


And nuclear? Post-fukushima? If you aren't scared by what has been going on in Japan, even with the governmental attempts to downplay the damage at every opportunity, then you have no fear.

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#5 1kgcoffee

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 04:49 PM

They must be joking? Comparing oil, the lifeblood of a struggling economy, to heroin? LOL! As if we'd be better off without a relatively cheap and fungible source of energy.
I am actually in favour of an even more politically unpopular source of energy- nuclear.

Speaking as an Albertan, the tax dollars will go into our coffers whether the oil is sold to America or the Chinese so take it or leave it.


And nuclear? Post-fukushima? If you aren't scared by what has been going on in Japan, even with the governmental attempts to downplay the damage at every opportunity, then you have no fear.

Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 2


Fukushima was old tech kept in commission for too long, in a dangerous region with fabricated safety claims and few legal consequences. Chernobyl, the only other disaster of this magnitude the result of shoddy design and human error. Done right, nuclear is the cleanest and safest form of base load power generation.
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